Need to change Hospitals.

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Originally posted by FishOn:
I have a family member who received a kidney transplant 10 years ago. She had to show proof of multiple vaccinations or she would have been denied. It's standard procedure for solid organ transplants. After receiving an organ transplant, the patient takes medicine for the rest of his/her life that suppresses the immune system. Vaccines prevent death from illnesses that many healthy people can fight off naturally.

Here is a list of requirements from Univ of Michigan transplant center, for an example. I do not believe it is politically motivated.

http://www.med.umich.edu/1libr...TxpKidneyVaccine.pdf

There is a difference between vaccines of the past and this particular MRNA shot. This new technology delivery Covid shot has not been fully tested in trials, is turning out to have more adverse affects and deaths then previous vaccines, and is covered by the emergency act so if you do come down with an adverse affect you can not hold the companies accountable.

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Need to change Hospitals.

This.

My father had idiopathic pulmonary fibrosis and almost solely because he was 68, the local hospital (UAB) would not put him on the lung transplant list.
(Talk about a Death Panel/Medicine by Committee )

We eventually got him into the Mayo Clinic in Jacksonville, FL and onto their list. (Unfortunately, suitable donor lungs didn't come in time.)

Yeah, there's a ton of hoops to jump through, tests galore (both medical and psychological), and criteria you have to meet, but to deny based off this vaccine is bullshit.
It's political correctness at it's worst.
(With that being said, if my Doctor recommended it, I'd take it. But not just because the hospital wants to check the politically correct box.)

I know quite a few doctors, including my own, (and as it was relayed to me, a LOT of others), who are following the science, but are afraid to speak up/out publicly because they don't want to get fired/cancelled/blacklisted for going against mainstream party line.
My Doctor isn't anti-vax, per se, just that it's not a one size fits all cure.

Hell even if you have Covid, you cannot go see a doctor and get treatment. Get sick you cannot have care. Such an amazing place we built.

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Originally posted by SIGnified:
Hell even if you have Covid, you cannot go see a doctor and get treatment. Get sick you cannot have care. Such an amazing place we built.

Really? I'd love for you to come work a shift in triage with me and tell Covid positive patients they can't check into the ER and receive treatment. It would make my job a whole lot easier.

Who is paying the bill for the heart transplant? The insurance companies often have THEIR rules. In this case it may be Medicaid or Medicare. CMS may be the problem, not the hospital. I dont know in this case.

Just think, we’ve reached the place where a phrase like “liberal hospital” has real meaning.

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Originally posted by 2000Z-71:

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Originally posted by SIGnified:
Hell even if you have Covid, you cannot go see a doctor and get treatment. Get sick you cannot have care. Such an amazing place we built.

Really? I'd love for you to come work a shift in triage with me and tell Covid positive patients they can't check into the ER and receive treatment. It would make my job a whole lot easier.

Try it here … I know at least a dozen people who all had Covid that couldn’t see a doctor while symptomatic. Some were family.

Symptoms? Don’t come in - is the message. No therapeutics.

Why?

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Originally posted by 2000Z-71:

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Originally posted by SIGnified:
Hell even if you have Covid, you cannot go see a doctor and get treatment. Get sick you cannot have care. Such an amazing place we built.

Really? I'd love for you to come work a shift in triage with me and tell Covid positive patients they can't check into the ER and receive treatment. It would make my job a whole lot easier.

Your hospital is leading the state in politically based non-treatment and treatment of people. You've got no stones to throw in this argument. You've chosen to work there and align with them.

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Originally posted by AKSuperDually:

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Originally posted by 2000Z-71:

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Originally posted by SIGnified:
Hell even if you have Covid, you cannot go see a doctor and get treatment. Get sick you cannot have care. Such an amazing place we built.

Really? I'd love for you to come work a shift in triage with me and tell Covid positive patients they can't check into the ER and receive treatment. It would make my job a whole lot easier.

Your hospital is leading the state in politically based non-treatment and treatment of people. You've got no stones to throw in this argument. You've chosen to work there and align with them.

Where are you getting this information? I work with and treat Covid positive patients every single night I'm at work.

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Originally posted by SIGnified:

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Originally posted by 2000Z-71:

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Originally posted by SIGnified:
Hell even if you have Covid, you cannot go see a doctor and get treatment. Get sick you cannot have care. Such an amazing place we built.

Really? I'd love for you to come work a shift in triage with me and tell Covid positive patients they can't check into the ER and receive treatment. It would make my job a whole lot easier.

Try it here … I know at least a dozen people who all had Covid that couldn’t see a doctor while symptomatic. Some were family.

Symptoms? Don’t come in - is the message. No therapeutics.

Why?

They may not have been able to get an appointment with their regular PCP, but to say that treatment and care is unavailable is misleading at best.

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Originally posted by 2000Z-71:

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Originally posted by SIGnified:

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Originally posted by 2000Z-71:

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Originally posted by SIGnified:
Hell even if you have Covid, you cannot go see a doctor and get treatment. Get sick you cannot have care. Such an amazing place we built.

Really? I'd love for you to come work a shift in triage with me and tell Covid positive patients they can't check into the ER and receive treatment. It would make my job a whole lot easier.

Try it here … I know at least a dozen people who all had Covid that couldn’t see a doctor while symptomatic. Some were family.

Symptoms? Don’t come in - is the message. No therapeutics.

Why?

They may not have been able to get an appointment with their regular PCP, but to say that treatment and care is unavailable is misleading at best.

Across 100% of a dozen people over the past 9 months? Don’t think so.

Even if it was a statistical anomaly it’s still not right and doesn’t align with the Hippocratic oath.

I’m down here in Baja Alaska where are you fly out of to go north. No MABs, no convalescent plasma, no antivirals, no ivermectin, not even an in person visit.

Say what you want from so far away, but in a libtard city with 2 million+ people (and no firefighters and cops, traffic laws, limited 911), it ain’t happening.

Maybe because they were all white?

Who would have thunk that men with the power to save lives would corrupt that power to control behavior?

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Originally posted by SIGnified:

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Originally posted by 2000Z-71:

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Originally posted by SIGnified:

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Originally posted by 2000Z-71:

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Originally posted by SIGnified:
Hell even if you have Covid, you cannot go see a doctor and get treatment. Get sick you cannot have care. Such an amazing place we built.

Really? I'd love for you to come work a shift in triage with me and tell Covid positive patients they can't check into the ER and receive treatment. It would make my job a whole lot easier.

Try it here … I know at least a dozen people who all had Covid that couldn’t see a doctor while symptomatic. Some were family.

Symptoms? Don’t come in - is the message. No therapeutics.

Why?

They may not have been able to get an appointment with their regular PCP, but to say that treatment and care is unavailable is misleading at best.

Across 100% of a dozen people over the past 9 months? Don’t think so.

Even if it was a statistical anomaly it’s still not right and doesn’t align with the Hippocratic oath.

I’m down here in Baja Alaska where are you fly out of to go north. No MABs, no convalescent plasma, no antivirals, no ivermectin, not even an in person visit.

Say what you want from so far away, but in a libtard city with 2 million+ people (and no firefighters and cops, traffic laws, limited 911), it ain’t happening.

Maybe because they were all white?

So do you have one factual statement to make or is it just gross exaggerations and ad hominems?

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Originally posted by 2000Z-71:

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Originally posted by SIGnified:

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Originally posted by 2000Z-71:

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Originally posted by SIGnified:

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Originally posted by 2000Z-71:

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Originally posted by SIGnified:
Hell even if you have Covid, you cannot go see a doctor and get treatment. Get sick you cannot have care. Such an amazing place we built.

Really? I'd love for you to come work a shift in triage with me and tell Covid positive patients they can't check into the ER and receive treatment. It would make my job a whole lot easier.

Try it here … I know at least a dozen people who all had Covid that couldn’t see a doctor while symptomatic. Some were family.

Symptoms? Don’t come in - is the message. No therapeutics.

Why?

They may not have been able to get an appointment with their regular PCP, but to say that treatment and care is unavailable is misleading at best.

Across 100% of a dozen people over the past 9 months? Don’t think so.

Even if it was a statistical anomaly it’s still not right and doesn’t align with the Hippocratic oath.

I’m down here in Baja Alaska where are you fly out of to go north. No MABs, no convalescent plasma, no antivirals, no ivermectin, not even an in person visit.

Say what you want from so far away, but in a libtard city with 2 million+ people (and no firefighters and cops, traffic laws, limited 911), it ain’t happening.

Maybe because they were all white?

So do you have one factual statement to make or is it just gross exaggerations and ad hominems?

No. Apparently you believe the 12 people and their experiences are fictitious.

Obviously you’re correct and everybody else is wrong.
Now isn’t that funny?

You win; we lose. Congratulations… You’ve improved our faith in the medical profession even more.

(Former molecular biologist.)

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Originally posted by 2000Z-71:

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Originally posted by AKSuperDually:

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Originally posted by 2000Z-71:

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Originally posted by SIGnified:
Hell even if you have Covid, you cannot go see a doctor and get treatment. Get sick you cannot have care. Such an amazing place we built.

Really? I'd love for you to come work a shift in triage with me and tell Covid positive patients they can't check into the ER and receive treatment. It would make my job a whole lot easier.

Your hospital is leading the state in politically based non-treatment and treatment of people. You've got no stones to throw in this argument. You've chosen to work there and align with them.

Where are you getting this information? I work with and treat Covid positive patients every single night I'm at work.

I live here. I work in crisis intervention. I meet with people affected by the policies of these Anchorage hospitals (and the Soldotna one also). I hear directly from the people affected by policies and procedures. The denial of treatments, the denial of visitation, the way non-vaccinated people are treated or rather, not treated the same. The cancellation of needed procedures over political decisions of who will get care.

I've met with people who've lost loved ones over this.

To 2000Z-71:

I just wanted to mention that my neighbor and good friend works triage at St Vincent's Hospital which is one of the big ones in the Portland Oregon area.

I've listened to some of his stories and how things have changed in the last 2 years. Oh, the stories he has are amazing.

I just wanted to mention that I have a lot of respect for what my neighbor does and in turn what you do. I know it's been rough, based on the data from my friend and neighbor.

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Originally posted by AKSuperDually:

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Originally posted by 2000Z-71:

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Originally posted by AKSuperDually:

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Originally posted by 2000Z-71:

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Originally posted by SIGnified:
Hell even if you have Covid, you cannot go see a doctor and get treatment. Get sick you cannot have care. Such an amazing place we built.

Really? I'd love for you to come work a shift in triage with me and tell Covid positive patients they can't check into the ER and receive treatment. It would make my job a whole lot easier.

Your hospital is leading the state in politically based non-treatment and treatment of people. You've got no stones to throw in this argument. You've chosen to work there and align with them.

Where are you getting this information? I work with and treat Covid positive patients every single night I'm at work.

I live here. I work in crisis intervention. I meet with people affected by the policies of these Anchorage hospitals (and the Soldotna one also). I hear directly from the people affected by policies and procedures. The denial of treatments, the denial of visitation, the way non-vaccinated people are treated or rather, not treated the same. The cancellation of needed procedures over political decisions of who will get care.

I've met with people who've lost loved ones over this.

The guy just won’t believe anyone who has an experience other than his. Unwise, narrow and dangerous.

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Originally posted by SIGnified:

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Originally posted by AKSuperDually:

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Originally posted by 2000Z-71:

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Originally posted by AKSuperDually:

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Originally posted by 2000Z-71:

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Originally posted by SIGnified:
Hell even if you have Covid, you cannot go see a doctor and get treatment. Get sick you cannot have care. Such an amazing place we built.

Really? I'd love for you to come work a shift in triage with me and tell Covid positive patients they can't check into the ER and receive treatment. It would make my job a whole lot easier.

Your hospital is leading the state in politically based non-treatment and treatment of people. You've got no stones to throw in this argument. You've chosen to work there and align with them.

Where are you getting this information? I work with and treat Covid positive patients every single night I'm at work.

I live here. I work in crisis intervention. I meet with people affected by the policies of these Anchorage hospitals (and the Soldotna one also). I hear directly from the people affected by policies and procedures. The denial of treatments, the denial of visitation, the way non-vaccinated people are treated or rather, not treated the same. The cancellation of needed procedures over political decisions of who will get care.

I've met with people who've lost loved ones over this.

The guy just won’t believe anyone who has an experience other than his. Unwise, narrow and dangerous.

Yes I'm aware of his "Alaskan" superior knowledge in all things Alaska.

Nothing unexpected from a transplant to Anchorage. Mostly I just shake my head and scroll on past....but I've got friends who've been denied critical care at that hospital. I've met with families who've lost loved ones because they couldn't get life-extending procedures done and died. I've sat with families as they mourned while their loved ones died in that hospital and couldn't be with them at end of life. I'm not repeating stuff I've heard...I'm repeating a fraction of experiences I have first-hand knowledge of.

At no point am I accusing 200Z-71 of personally causing these situations, or personally making decisions that did. I understand that an ER nurse is pretty low on the totem pole. I wonder if 2000Z-71 understands that himself? I'm glad your enjoying your version of Alaska, and are employed, generally doing something that benefits society...but stop defending your leftist political game playing hospital. They have blood on their hands and Alaskans are not ALL asleep, and Alaskans outside of the leftist-shithole you live in are getting sick of the shit.

One of the VERY BIG problems, is not that you can't get treatment for COVID at the hospital, but you can't get ANY treatment for COVID before you're forced have to go the hospital. The object with COVID is to get early treatment so NEVER have to go to the hospital!