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The House essentially blocks any/all impeachment activity in the Senate by denying the transfer of the articles from the House to the Senate.


They have not blocked anything; nothing can happen in the senate until the articles are passed. Mitch will continue confirming judges. Even if the courts release more material, and the house holds more hearings, when it goes to the senate it is up the the majority to decide on how it is adjudicated. By then even the skeptics will be assured that the entire thing is a political exercise.

Remember this: when the left plays politics on certain local scales, they may win. When they play politics on a grand national scale like this? They lose.
 
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The House essentially blocks any/all impeachment activity in the Senate by denying the transfer of the articles from the House to the Senate.
They have not blocked anything; nothing can happen in the senate until the articles are passed. Mitch will continue confirming judges. Even if the courts release more material, and the house holds more hearings, when it goes to the senate it is up the the majority to decide on how it adjudicated. By then even the skeptics will be assured that the entire thing is a political exercise TDS-induced Kabuki Theatre.
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Sorry, IMO, a Big Nothing Burger <shrug>

This "impeachment" is absolutely meaningless. And Pelosi knows it.

Trump will be the first POTUS in American history to be impeached and win re-election.

Reap and sow, motherfuckers.



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I sent my buddy this link. I tried to impress on him the absolute amazing feat that has been accomplished in the last three years. I told him this will have repercussions WELL past the next election.

Relax; take a deep breadth; check your gear; you can do this; You good? Yup you're good; Let's go!

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Delaying sending articles until an eventual strategic bomb dropped on the Senate to prevent Supreme Court nominations I'll guess. Impeachment articles are the trump card held in their back pocket to control SC judge nominations.

Controlling the Supreme Court is more important than winning the presidency to the democrats right now.
 
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Delaying sending articles until an eventual strategic bomb dropped on the Senate to prevent Supreme Court nominations I'll guess.


Fine. Send them. The majority leader sets the calendar. Not the House, not fate (loss of a SC Justice). The majority leader does. Mitch has said he will take up any articles because the constitution says he must; It gives no preference for order. Let's say a SC vacancy came up right before the House sent over articles of Impeachment.

The Senate has a lot of duties. The majority leader would set the priority for the country. The SC is a pretty big priority. Whereas a faux political "impeachment" may not rate as high on the scale.
 
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Roll on November 2020. The noise today is a little annoying, but the wailing, gnashing of teeth, and flood of Leftist tears will be a BEAUTIFUL THING come November 4th, 2020.
 
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Haven't read anything else on this but it is interesting.

"Pollak: Senate Can Acquit Even If House Withholds Articles of Impeachment"

"Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) appears to be considering an idea Democrats have floated for several days of holding back the articles of impeachment to exercise leverage over the Senate and the president.

She declined formally to transmit the articles to the Senate on Wednesday evening after the House voted to impeach President Donald Trump.

Unfortunately for them, the Senate can act, regardless — and would vote to acquit.

Graham: 'Don't Need to Hear from' Bidens, 'Can Deal with That Outside of Impeachment'

That’s because the Constitution is absolutely clear about the Senate’s authority. Article I, Section 3 says: “The Senate shall have the sole Power to try all Impeachments.”

That is all.

The Chief Justice presides over a trial involving the president, but the Senate makes the rules. And the Senate is controlled by Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY), who regards what the House has done with contempt.

You’re in Cocaine Mitch’s court, now.

Politico outlined Democrats’ new idea, citing constitutional lawyer Laurence Tribe (but, interestingly, not the Constitution itself). Pelosi hopes to pressure McConnell into holding a “fair trial” — this, after she and her party broke every relevant House rule and precedent, and several Amendments in the Bill of Rights, all in the name of their “sole Power of Impeachment.”

They forget that a “fair trial” applies to the accused, not the accuser, and has since 1215.

Set aside, for the moment, that holding onto the articles of impeachment would contradict everything Rep. Adam Schiff (D-CA) and the Democrats have said for weeks about the “urgency” of impeachment. They needed to stop him before he could “cheat in the next election,” we were told — that’s why the House could not wait for the courts to rule on the White House’s resistance to stop congressional subpoenas.

All of that would be exposed as a lie.

If Pelosi refuses to submit the articles of impeachment to the Senate, McConnell can convene the Senate anyway, summon the Chief Justice, and swear in the Senators as jurors. Democrats can boycott, but they can’t stop the trial.

McConnell can then propose to dismiss the charges or even hold a vote to acquit the president.

Pelosi can hide the articles of impeachment in Adam Schiff’s basement forever, and it won’t make a bit of difference.

Case closed."

https://www.breitbart.com/poli...chment-constitution/
 
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Follow the people, not the money. After my friend told me they impeached (foregone conclusion) I sent another $50.

"Trump Campaign Says POTUS Raised More Than $5 Million On The Day Dems Voted To Impeach"

"December 18, 2019 11:28 PM ET

President Donald Trump’s presidential campaign said Wednesday night that it raised over $5 million on the day House Democrats voted to impeach the president.

The president “has raised over 5M dollars (still growing) today as Americans use their wallet to show support against @SpeakerPelosi’s impeachment hoax!” Brad Parscale, Trump’s campaign manager, wrote in a tweet following the vote.

“Incredible fundraising numbers!” he added.

Parscale linked to a website the Trump campaign created to collect donations for the president’s reelection bid. (RELATED: Gallup Poll Finds Majority Now Oppose Impeaching And Removing Trump From Office)

The House voted on two articles of impeachment — abuse of power and obstruction of Congress. The House voted 230-197 on the first article, with Democratic Hawaii Rep. Tulsi Gabbard voting “present,” and 229-198 on the second article. No Republicans voted for the impeachment of Trump.

Trump is apparently using the Democrats’ vote to buttress his presidential campaign. Parscale made a similar claim Sunday, telling his Twitter followers the campaign raked in roughly $10 million in one week as Democrats were pursuing impeachment charges against the president.

The president is also feeling some wind at his back even as Democrats close in.

His job approval rating is at 45%, while Americans remain divided over whether he should be impeached, according to a Gallup poll published Wednesday, and 46% support impeachment and removal.

More than 50% oppose impeachment and removal, an increase of five percentage points, according to the poll."

https://dailycaller.com/2019/1...nations-impeachment/





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So hey, what's that Trump campaign donation link again?


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Two words: Presidential pardon.

If Trump can't do it, he should undergo emergency surgery, temporarily passing power to Pence and Pence can do it.

This is all theater anyway, why not add a plot twist?
 
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So what are they going to do? Hold on to it until after the election in hopes of getting control of the Senate and convict then?


As I understand it, these Articles are only good until the next Congress is sworn in. That would be next November.

They would have to re-do everything after that.



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Can someone please explain why the Senate must wait for Nancy to hand them a piece of paper with the Articles of Impeachment before they can begin debate or take any action on this?

Are not the full texts of the Articles a matter of Congressional record now?

So, if the Senate were presumptuous enough to assume that the Articles would be eventually be transmitted, and they began debate or took any other action to streamline this and then Nancy decided not to transmit the Articles everyone will have wasted a lot of time - big deal - how many man-hours are already invested in this pile of quadruped feces anyway??

Would premature discussion or action by the Senate be illegal?




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sdy post page 322 a Must Read

“ It appears the absence of appointing House impeachment managers; and the decision to withhold sending the articles of impeachment to the Senate; is now a specific design.”



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Haven't read anything else on this but it is interesting.

"Pollak: Senate Can Acquit Even If House Withholds Articles of Impeachment"

"Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) appears to be considering an idea Democrats have floated for several days of holding back the articles of impeachment to exercise leverage over the Senate and the president.

She declined formally to transmit the articles to the Senate on Wednesday evening after the House voted to impeach President Donald Trump.

Unfortunately for them, the Senate can act, regardless — and would vote to acquit.

Graham: 'Don't Need to Hear from' Bidens, 'Can Deal with That Outside of Impeachment'

That’s because the Constitution is absolutely clear about the Senate’s authority. Article I, Section 3 says: “The Senate shall have the sole Power to try all Impeachments.”

That is all.

The Chief Justice presides over a trial involving the president, but the Senate makes the rules. And the Senate is controlled by Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY), who regards what the House has done with contempt.

You’re in Cocaine Mitch’s court, now.

Politico outlined Democrats’ new idea, citing constitutional lawyer Laurence Tribe (but, interestingly, not the Constitution itself). Pelosi hopes to pressure McConnell into holding a “fair trial” — this, after she and her party broke every relevant House rule and precedent, and several Amendments in the Bill of Rights, all in the name of their “sole Power of Impeachment.”

They forget that a “fair trial” applies to the accused, not the accuser, and has since 1215.

Set aside, for the moment, that holding onto the articles of impeachment would contradict everything Rep. Adam Schiff (D-CA) and the Democrats have said for weeks about the “urgency” of impeachment. They needed to stop him before he could “cheat in the next election,” we were told — that’s why the House could not wait for the courts to rule on the White House’s resistance to stop congressional subpoenas.

All of that would be exposed as a lie.

If Pelosi refuses to submit the articles of impeachment to the Senate, McConnell can convene the Senate anyway, summon the Chief Justice, and swear in the Senators as jurors. Democrats can boycott, but they can’t stop the trial.

McConnell can then propose to dismiss the charges or even hold a vote to acquit the president.

Pelosi can hide the articles of impeachment in Adam Schiff’s basement forever, and it won’t make a bit of difference.

Case closed."

https://www.breitbart.com/poli...chment-constitution/
Mitch has always been such a cool old guy to me.. Big Grin. He's like the Presidents personal gun slinger. Hope it goes just like this.
 
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Back in my youth I was politically active. Then came family, work, parenthood, etc.

All of this has galvanized me into becoming more politically active again.

For starters, I'm going to do whatever I can to make sure all of the Dems who voted for this travesty have this as their LAST term in Congress.




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Pelosi can hide the articles of impeachment in Adam Schiff’s basement forever, and it won’t make a bit of difference.

Case closed."


Actually she can shove one article down deep in Schiff's basement and shove the other one down deep in Nadler's basement and leave them there.

Unfortunately her own basement is so fully packed there would not be room for another article there.

Good thing there only 2.




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Trump will be the first POTUS in American history to be impeached and win re-election.



That's not really an insightful prediction as Nixon and Clinton were both in their second terms when they were impeached.
 
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That's not really an insightful prediction as Nixon and Clinton were both in their second terms when they were impeached.


Nixon was not impeached. The third was Andrew Johnson.
Nixon was certainly facing impeachment, but he resigned first.




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