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FOGOs

? I can guess part of it.
 
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FOGO: Fear Of Going Out.

I had to look it up, too.

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FOGO: Fear Of Going Out.

I had to look it up, too.

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In this context, it is Flag Officer / General Officer.

Navy and Coasties call their Admirals Flag Officers. The rest, Generals (hence, General Officer).



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I dont think people have realized how much institutional damage Obama did to the military by changing culture. It is his longest and strongest legacy.

Team rooms are getting more and more millennial entitlement mindset, and because more and more commanders have it as well, “old school” guys keep getting out.

I was having dinner with a counterpart who was seal commander, and the conversation went to politics. He was an ardent Hillary supporter, supported robust gun control measures, and mandatory buy backs of AR’s. “I need to carry a rifle here. No one at home needs one.”

Cops are the same. Society has changed, my friends.
 
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FOGO: Fear Of Going Out.

I had to look it up, too.

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In this context, it is Flag Officer / General Officer.

Navy and Coasties call their Admirals Flag Officers. The rest, Generals (hence, General Officer).



Oops! Thank you for clarifying. Smile




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Cops are the same. Society has changed, my friends.

Maybe in deep blue states; I’ve been in law enforcement for nearly 28 years and I don’t know a single cop, old or new, that feels this way.




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How many immigrants in need of full support, money, food, housing, clothing, & medical care can the United States absorb?

Illegally crossing from Mexico we have more than 1,000,000 this year.
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For comparison let’s look at some cities populations.
961,855 Austin, TX
949,611 Jacksonville, FL
918,915 Fort Worth, TX
905,748 Columbus, OH
887,642 Indianapolis, IN
874,579 Charlotte, NC

Now looking at Afghanistan, we have activated the Civil Reserve Air Fleet, requesting 18 aircraft to evacuate personnel.
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Now this is not to say that we don’t have the obligation to assist those that helped us, however with boarders wide open and people from sh%$ H@&$ around the world looking for a better life, how many people can we, (you and your family support)?

Everybody come here we will provide for you, can only last so long.
Eventually those receiving will greatly outstrip those providing and then all will collapse.



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How many immigrants in need of full support, money, food, housing, clothing, & medical care can the United States absorb?


As many as are needed to sway the districts they need blue, i suspect.
 
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Cops are the same. Society has changed, my friends.

Maybe in deep blue states; I’ve been in law enforcement for nearly 28 years and I don’t know a single cop, old or new, that feels this way.


Ive met plenty that do. I stay as far away from LEO’s as possible, but Ive been forced to live in blue states for quite a while so its possible my lens is limited.
 
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^^^WOW, that deleted post was certainly revealing... Roll Eyes

Again, that doesn't fly in 'Free America'!


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^^^WOW, that deleted post was certainly revealing... Roll Eyes

Again, that doesn't fly in 'Free America'!


I dont expect it to be palatable. It’s just what Ive seen first hand and how I feel about it. Im glad the debate is alive and well, but it is a fool’s errand to presume one line of work or another is going to be entirely “on your side” of any given debate. Ive been around plenty of cops and soldiers/sailors/marines that were true blue voting anti gunners.

The reality is every institution is there will be people on both sides of a given debate, since each institution is a composite of society; “weightings” or “trends” at a micro level not withstanding. The notion that because someone is a cop or in the military or whatever profession your politics has conditioned you to worship, means they will view issues deeply important to you as the same as you is a logical folly.

Id recommend that blind loyalty -or contempt- to any particular institution be something people cure themselves of. Judge each man by the content of their character, not the color of their skin….or the cut of their uniform.
 
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Where are the thousands of Afghans being taken to?


New Jersey apparently.

And as far as our current military, this is precisely the result of one presidency. Barack Hussein Obama. That man single handedly devastated our military.


IMHO, this is incorrect.

The current failure in the military we are seeing can be traced back to the Clinton presidency. Clinton created a form of "hollow forces". A generation of O-4/O-5 officers were trained in the 90s to save money and do more with less because the fall of communism and the Iron Curtain that created a "peace dividend". Those officers are now the 4-Stars leading things and they spent their careers fighting for dollars amongst each other and having less economy matched funds to spend on gear and training. Additionally they are the ones who have been on board with using more training time and funds on the social aspect of being soldiers, sailors, and airmen rather than the core focus of killing the enemy and leaving no doubt that we are the baddest fuckers on the block.

Clinton started this ball rolling and every president since who has not said to the CJCoS "be the worlds most badass killing machine and be ready when your country needs you. PERIOD." can be held accountable.

Fuck em, fuck em all......


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Where are the thousands of Afghans being taken to?


New Jersey apparently.

And as far as our current military, this is precisely the result of one presidency. Barack Hussein Obama. That man single handedly devastated our military.


IMHO, this is incorrect.

The current failure in the military we are seeing can be traced back to the Clinton presidency. Clinton created a form of "hollow forces". A generation of O-4/O-5 officers were trained in the 90s to save money and do more with less because the fall of communism and the Iron Curtain that created a "peace dividend". Those officers are now the 4-Stars leading things and they spent their careers fighting for dollars amongst each other and having less economy matched funds to spend on gear and training. Additionally they are the ones who have been on board with using more training time and funds on the social aspect of being soldiers, sailors, and airmen rather than the core focus of killing the enemy and leaving no doubt that we are the baddest fuckers on the block.

Clinton started this ball rolling and every president since who has not said to the CJCoS "be the worlds most badass killing machine and be ready when your country needs you. PERIOD." can be held accountable.

Fuck em, fuck em all......


I think there is truth to this. When combined with the sociological conditioning under Obama, well, this is the result.
 
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American contractor waiting on a flight out, shows video of the weapons, gear, and civilian vehicles left unattended behind.
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It’s a damn shame we didn’t give Hong Kong protestors all that weaponry when those Chinese thugs were beating the hell out of those protesting in the streets.


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^^^WOW, that deleted post was certainly revealing... Roll Eyes

Again, that doesn't fly in 'Free America'!
What's this about?
 
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OK, guys, let's move on. This thread is not about the police.


Noted.




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Someone needs to tell me what occurred in this thread overnight. This thread will not move forward until I get an explanation.
 
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^^^WOW, that deleted post was certainly revealing... Roll Eyes

Again, that doesn't fly in 'Free America'!

I dont expect it to be palatable. It’s just what Ive seen first hand and how I feel about it. Im glad the debate is alive and well, but it is a fool’s errand to presume one line of work or another is going to be entirely “on your side” of any given debate. Ive been around plenty of cops and soldiers/sailors/marines that were true blue voting anti gunners.

The reality is every institution is there will be people on both sides of a given debate, since each institution is a composite of society; “weightings” or “trends” at a micro level not withstanding. The notion that because someone is a cop or in the military or whatever profession your politics has conditioned you to worship, means they will view issues deeply important to you as the same as you is a logical folly.

Id recommend that blind loyalty -or contempt- to any particular institution be something people cure themselves of. Judge each man by the content of their character, not the color of their skin….or the cut of their uniform.

I don't disagree with 'everything' you're stating here, but you were indicating that Legal CCW Permit Holders 'out-of-state' would be arrested, and guns confiscated, with rare exception. Essentially that all 'State Troopers' were jack-booted thugs, and that small town LE agencies were the only ones from which you'd be lucky enough to escape arrest.

Politics, or whether someone is 'on your side' of any given debate has NOTHING to do with it....We are a nation of laws! The implication was presumably that reciprocity existed between the the states in question. Determining reciprocity can be (and I'm sure is) verifiable over the radio. If legal permit holders were being arrested while carrying out of state (or in state for that matter), people would be screaming from the rooftops and we'd certainly be hearing about it. I don't relish contact with LE that I didn't initiate, but regardless, if you're within the law, you're within the law!


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^^^WOW, that deleted post was certainly revealing... Roll Eyes

Again, that doesn't fly in 'Free America'!
What's this about?


I think it was mine. He doesnt like that i dont inherently trust police, because ive seen first hand them arrest “good guys” with a gun because “they have a job to do”. I deleted it and revised it because a- not what the thread is about, and my primary point was on blind faith in an institution and b- it would have taken more explanation than the thread warranted to be clear.
 
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