When their catalog comes out with Men's Wear, Women's Wear, and Dunno Wear sections I might consider a boycott. But a survey that is optional to answer, or just leave the offending question unanswered? Nope.

That brings up an interesting point.

Most companies that make clothing make Men's, Women's, and potentially Boy's & Girl's.

Not only is this done for sizing purposes but it's also done as the shape of these clothes are different. A shirt made for a man's body would drape like a tent on many women. A man could never get in a shirt made for a woman.

Men's Shirt


Woman's Shirt


I'll guess if you're a Man->Woman trans you need to buy men's clothing, or womens style clothing made for men. Same for Women->Men trans.

Given how these manufactures operate I cannot believe they'll come up with lines of clothing for the 1,000 different genders the LBGTQABC+-? is pushing.

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Originally posted by old dino:
I would rather wearing a "cardboard box" than to stoop to this questioning ...

You don't have to "stoop to" anything... The easiest solution is just don't answer this optional question, or better yet, don't participate in this completely optional marketing survey in the first place.

It's not like the Duluth Trading checkout clerk is going to be demanding your gender identity and preferred pronouns before they'll let you buy some clothes.


Some folks here love to crow about how "fragile" and "perpetually offended" leftists are, and then turn around and throw fits and threaten boycots if they so much as see a term on an optional third-party marketing survey that they don't like.

Sheesh.

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Originally posted by jhe888:
If we boycotted any retailer who did things we don't like, we'd be living in holes and banging rabbits over the head with a rock for food.

No kidding.

Does Duluth make the Sigforum Unitard?

It would solve all of these problems...

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Originally posted by Lord Vaalic:
Does Duluth make the Sigforum Unitard?

No, those are bespoke outfits hand-woven by alpine maidens in the mountain villages outside of Neuhausen, Switzerland.

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Originally posted by parabellum:
You'll end up wearing a cardbord box

And bears will eat you! Plus beavers.

cardboard box hmm? damn corrugayted mafia has its tentacles everywhere

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Originally posted by Expert308:
If you like their stuff and their service, IMO this is not something worth getting ruffled about. Ignore it and continue as before.

Bull. It most certainly is something to take note of. It is an acquiescence to the woke-hivemind and an acceptance of what is not true. Truth matters. 6guns is correct here. This deserves pushback otherwise it will only spread and grow and grow and grow.

They replied to my email with this:

"Good Afternoon Carl,

Thank you so much for your feedback, we will pass this along to our managers.

Please contact Customer Service toll-free at 866-300-9719 or respond to this email with any additional questions or concerns. Customer Service is available 7 days a week from 5:00 am to 1:00 am CST.

We look forward to the opportunity to assist you.

Sincerely,

Michele M."

I do appreciate they took the time to write.

Duluth has lost me as a customer as well, nothing to do with wokeness, their quality has just taken a severe dive. When I moved to Alaska from Arizona in 2018, I bought A LOT of stuff from Duluth Trading's store in Anchorage. Their Alaskan Hardgear line had some great stuff. Most of that I still have and is holding up well.

Since then their quality has gone really downhill. Bought a couple of different flannel shirts that I had purchased the same model earlier. Material is noticeably thinner and features are lacking. The Alaskan Hardgear flannel shirts have gone from 3 pockets to only one open pocket and are not nearly as heavy. One of their Free Swinging flannel shirts after 1 washing looked like I had owned it for years with material puckering at all the seems. Wrote Duluth and sent them pictures as well. The response I received as, "Sorry, we will make out buyers aware." No offer of exchange, refund or future discount.

They still have some quality stuff but it's harder to find. Finding the original Firehose cargo pants with the heavy material is a challenge at times and their new Flex line just doesn't hold up as well. Hate it when companies forget what made them and look solely to the bottom line or trying to appeal outside of their core customers.

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Originally posted by old dino:
I would rather wearing a "cardboard box" than to stoop to this questioning ...

Do you think anyone actually believes this? Even if you weren't "taking a stand" over something so common these days, that's a damn silly thing to say and no one believes you.

Just playing along with your statement for a second- if you wore a cardboard box in lieu of clothing, you wouldn't be able to go out in public without being arrested and sent to the psych ward for an evaluation. If you continued to wear a cardboard box in lieu of clothing, the arrests would stack up, you'd be well-known to the courts and your life would become more miserable even than wearing a cardboard box in lieu of clothing, which, legal implications aside, would be damn inconvenient and embarrassing for any sane person. You would be shunned by your friends and you quality of life would drop off of a cliff.

So, really, give us a break, huh?

Ask them if they can add to their clothing lineup since you no longer needed ballroom blue jeans.

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Originally posted by Oaklane:
I got pissed at Carhartt after being a loyal buyer for 40 plus years, it all pisses me off, I finally decided that I need to pick my battles better. I have some Duluth stuff but not near the amount as Carhartt, my solution was to buy my Carhartt stuff from the local mom and pop places around me vs the box store farm places. At least I’m supporting a local place. I don’t have that option with Duluth so I buy near as much of their stuff. I wait for the kids and their mom to get me Duluth for Xmas

Carhartt was one of the first mainstream brands to appeal to the then burgeoning street culture with their WIP collection (Work In Progress) thirty-years ago. Mainly focused on skateboarders, the line soon developed a following and took-off to include women's. Today WIP is a major segment of their business, and any street fashion retailer worth their salt has WIP in their shop. Twenty years ago Carhart jumped the shark when they started to feature more photography that was not workwear or industry oriented but, more focused on fashion; they tried to balance that out with their then dedicated hunting line. Today, you can find Carhart just about everywhere, meanwhile long time work wear specialty retailers got pissed as the brand saturated the marketplace but, they still retain Carhartt because there's enough blue-collar guys who just don't know the background of things. Go to Europe or, Asia and Carhartt is a fashion brand like Timberland, Nike and Levi's, every skinny-jean wearing douche-bag has a Carhartt Detroit jacket, pocket tee and beanie.

Take what you need and leave the rest. I'm not going to cut my nose to spite my face. I've got no use for Target but if I needed something and Target was my only convenient source you damn well bet I'll buy from them and I don't look at it as helping Target - I look at is as helping me.

I had something happen today that shook me. Our front yard is somewhat of a gathering place as we normally have 2 very friendly little dogs and there are several walkers that like to play with our dogs.

There's a pleasant enough lady who has been coming by with a toddler girl, sweet child who likes the dogs and the dogs like her. Comes by 2,3 times a week stays 3/4 minutes and moves on.

Today lady came by with a different child, a young boy who she said was six, good looking kid was shy but warmed up to the dogs and I liked him fine. Got a look at his hands and all ten fingernails were polished red. Broke my heart. I'm going to go out of my way to be friendly to the boy but mama is not to be trusted.

Do me a favor and tell them to cease with all the fucking Velcro while you’re at it.

Maybe someday simply checking Non-Binary on a 4473 will be a sufficient disqualifier.

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Originally posted by Rightwire:

Not only is this done for sizing purposes but it's also done as the shape of these clothes are different. A shirt made for a man's body would drape like a tent on many women. A man could never get in a shirt made for a woman.

What are the sizing / shape standards for non-binary shirts?

I once was counseled to live in the world but not be of the world. Over the many decades since, I've come to understand that meant to live in the culture but conduct myself according to true principles. Through the span of my life thus far I've seen a steady and recently exponential rate of decline in the moral fiber of our society. My principles haven't changed and I govern my life by them. But I'll need to tolerate the existence of cultural rot and all of its demonstations if I am to continue on a refining path through life. I've taught my sons those same principles and some have chosen to live by them while others have rejected them.

Darth, you said that very well. I do feel as if the woke liberals are winning though. It seems to me they just keeping pushing, and after awhile you feel like you are the crazy one. I don't even know what non binary means on a form like that. I'm guessing it means a person doesn't identify as male or female. Anyways, I like your advice. I always enjoy reading your comments.