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The fact that the Germans failed at Dunkirk is immaterial to the fact that they were incapable of mounting a cross channel invasion of the UK. _____________________________ 'I'm pretty fly for a white guy'. | |||
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If Germany had had a technocrat for a leader - someone like, say, Albert Speer - they probably could have conquered Continental Europe and Russia. Just left Great Britain sitting in the North Sea. Without a declaration of war on the US, we might never have bothered with Germany despite Roosevelt's best efforts. The focus would have remained on Japan because of Pearl Harbor. The "blade of grass" quote was Yamamoto's. Harshest Dream, Reality | |||
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The Germans had to make a choice between invading England vs invading Russia. The Russians were retooling their military rapidly so time was working against the Germans and their limited resources. Then, there was the issue of the forward Russian installations that were supposed to be used for defense but could be used as forward staging for an invasion of Europe and Germany. This weighed heavily on the German's decision not to invade England. Germany could have taken Russia fairly easily. Hitler's big mistake (of many) was not allowing Guderian to run the invasion like he wanted, that is, using armor on a non stop thrust towards Moscow with resupply being done by air drop. The Russians could not have regrouped under these circumstances. It's generally accepted that Germany lost the war in Russia when they started shifting armor back and forth over hundreds of miles of terrain. They lost too much time and the initiative was lost by doing this. IIRC, Germany stopped ANY kind of weapons development in late 1941. Hitler decided that it would not be needed since the war would be over soon. Overall, war production didn't peak until mid 1943. A lot of scientists involved in weapon development were sent to fight on the Russian front. A comedy of errors all around. V. | |||
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hitler's biggest mistake by far was declaring war on the United States. Their industrial manufacturing was in ruins in about 3 years after that. | |||
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IMO, The capture of some 300,000 British/French troops at Dunkirk would have been a severe morale blow to England. And with that in place, destroying the Brit radar sites and a German airborne attack at destroyed British fighter bases would lead British Parliament to a ceasefire bargaining table.....IMO! ********* "Some people are alive today because it's against the law to kill them". | |||
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Panzer units were 15 KM from unoccupied Dunkirk and obeyed orders to halt. Interestingly, these same units had disobeyed halt orders until then. The 1940 French campaign was a constant disobeying halt orders by German front line commanders. As far the the German Declaration of War against the US. FDR had in all but name, declared war against Germany in '40-41. Lend-lease, plus the Anglo-American Navel cooperation of summer '41, where USN units patrolled, as well as escorted east bound convoys 1/2 across the Atlantic, would eventually ensure some sort of 'incident' that could be used as a trigger for US war declaration against German, a la events of 1915. A Tonkin Gulf incident in '41/'42 with German would have happened. German Naval forces were strictly forbidden to engage USN forces, even if provoked. Yet 3 such incidents happened, with USS Reuben James sunk by u-boat in Oct '41. So it was just a matter of time. The war was supposed to have been the West against Soviet Russia, and after the western allies - Germany settlement of outstanding issues a la Versailles and its injustices, the war would become one between the West (NATO) under American leadership (England being worn down to 2nd rate power) and the USSR and the Warsaw Pact puppets (Easter Germany on paper was the only reliable puppet there). Lots of what if's to ponder for all eternality. What if German-France-England had come to some agreement during the Sitzkrieg of fall '39? what if Germany had gone in to full war economy mode in '39 (Germany did finally in '42, but too late). So, today we again worry more about Russia (no real threat to the west) and ignore the real problem of hordes of refugees flooding Europe, as well as the serious re-emergence of the middle kingdom - which is also a serious threat to Russia and its current possession of the northern resource territories acquired from Imperial China, by Imperial Russia under Catherine the Great. -.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.-. --.- It only stands to reason that where there's sacrifice, there's someone collecting the sacrificial offerings. Where there's service, there is someone being served. The man who speaks to you of sacrifice is speaking of slaves and masters, and intends to be the master. Ayn Rand "He gains votes ever and anew by taking money from everybody and giving it to a few, while explaining that every penny was extracted from the few to be giving to the many." Ogden Nash from his poem - The Politician | |||
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....But Volkswagen is one of the lowest...and, surprisingly, better than any of the traditional American manufactures (although I think that data is REALLY old and terribly optimistic for some brands, e.g., Land Rover). 0:01 | |||
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and Mini is low on the list (a BMW owned brand) https://chandlersfirearms.com/chesterfield-armament/ | |||
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About 10-12 million deer hunters vs. some portion of the german or jap army ? I'd lay odds on the millions of hunters winning that battle. Even if half the hunters would refuse (and I doubt that would be true) to shoot a human, at least some of them would go balls-to-the-wall and take out dozens of soldiers.. Wolverines !!! ------------------ SBrooks | |||
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Had Germany captured those 300+K British and French forces at Dunkirk, then it’s conceivable that the War Cabinet could not have withstood the pressure from Parliament and come to an accommodation with Hitler. And as such, there would then have been no need for American intervention with “Lend Lease” and the unofficial War in the North Atlantic. FDR would have been checkmated against Germany and would only had concentrated on Japanese moves in Asia and the Pacific. Lots of other “What Ifs...”. --------------------- DJT-45/47 MAGA !!!!! "Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on, or by imbeciles who really mean it." — Mark Twain “Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard.” — H. L. Mencken | |||
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Someone compare Japan to the United States if the German drop the Atomic bombs on to many of our cities first, and we willing to surrender. We are compare apples to oranges, because Japan believed their Emperor like a “GOD”. If we attack the head of the snake, and we got checkmate on them. In the United States, we have a total different government system, and this will never going to happen here. That is why we call the United States of America for that reason.  | |||
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There are reports that both the Germans as well as the Japanese were farther along with their atomic research than is generally known,(some say that BOTH experimented with low yield tests of those bombs!) Even if true,(who knows for certain-that is what Google is for-food for thought), things could easily have been much worse than they turned out and that was bad enough. Some chances you cannot afford to take in war. | |||
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