The photo case is a sideshow. The Mission Continues list is gonna get a conviction. The combination of pissing off all of the Dems and 1/2 the GOP legislature means he will be gone by Aug 1. Arrogant people don’t do well in MO. Greitens is the most arrogant SOB in the State.

Convicted of what? If being an asshole was a crime the entire world would become a prison.

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The photo case is a sideshow. The Mission Continues list is gonna get a conviction. The combination of pissing off all of the Dems and 1/2 the GOP legislature means he will be gone by Aug 1. Arrogant people don’t do well in MO. Greitens is the most arrogant SOB in the State.

You must not have been to Jefferson City (Missouri Capital) or the City of St. Louis, I know a ton of people in both locations that are much more arrogant. Take the City of St. Louis Prosecuting Attorney for example............

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Convicted of what? If being an asshole was a crime the entire world would become a prison.

The AG filed a felony charge of stealing his charity’s donor list for his campaign. The felony charge of is pending. It has nothing to do with the STL shitshow. The GOP AG filed it. He lied to the Ethics commission under oath about it too. Everyone likes the Lt Gov. Parsons. Greitens is gone.

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Originally posted by ilikefirearms:

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Originally posted by parabellum:
Convicted of what? If being an asshole was a crime the entire world would become a prison.

The AG filed a felony charge of stealing his charity’s donor list for his campaign. The felony charge of is pending. It has nothing to do with the STL shitshow. The GOP AG filed it. He lied to the Ethics commission under oath about it too. Everyone likes the Lt Gov. Parsons. Greitens is gone.

Get your facts straight, the STATE Attorney General did an investigation and referred it to the St. Louis City Prosecuting Attorney who immediately added the additional charge to the indictment. The Attorney General did not file any charges. I have heard that since he is running for Senator, he did it to cover his own ass and there isn't much to it.

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Originally posted by ilikefirearms:
The photo case is a sideshow. The Mission Continues list is gonna get a conviction. The combination of pissing off all of the Dems and 1/2 the GOP legislature means he will be gone by Aug 1. Arrogant people don’t do well in MO. Greitens is the most arrogant SOB in the State.

You must not have been to Jefferson City (Missouri Capital) or the City of St. Louis, I know a ton of people in both locations that are much more arrogant. Take the City of St. Louis Prosecuting Attorney for example............

She seems more dumb than arrogant.

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Originally posted by ilikefirearms:
The photo case is a sideshow. The Mission Continues list is gonna get a conviction. The combination of pissing off all of the Dems and 1/2 the GOP legislature means he will be gone by Aug 1. Arrogant people don’t do well in MO. Greitens is the most arrogant SOB in the State.

You must not have been to Jefferson City (Missouri Capital) or the City of St. Louis, I know a ton of people in both locations that are much more arrogant. Take the City of St. Louis Prosecuting Attorney for example............

She seems more dumb than arrogant.

Nope, she is a very arrogant Dimocrap SJW. Take this case and the Shockley case, both extremely high profile cases that should have never gone to trial.

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Originally posted by parabellum:
Convicted of what? If being an asshole was a crime the entire world would become a prison.

The AG filed a felony charge of stealing his charity’s donor list for his campaign. The felony charge of is pending. It has nothing to do with the STL shitshow. The GOP AG filed it. He lied to the Ethics commission under oath about it too. Everyone likes the Lt Gov. Parsons. Greitens is gone.

Get your facts straight, the STATE Attorney General did an investigation and referred it to the St. Louis City Prosecuting Attorney who immediately added the additional charge to the indictment. The Attorney General did not file any charges. I have heard that since he is running for Senator, he did it to cover his own ass and there isn't much to it.

You are misinformed. There is plenty to it. My point was The AG did the investigation. Also, a special prosecutor will try it, it was just filed in STL for the statute of limitations.

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Originally posted by ilikefirearms:

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Originally posted by parabellum:
Convicted of what? If being an asshole was a crime the entire world would become a prison.

The AG filed a felony charge of stealing his charity’s donor list for his campaign. The felony charge of is pending. It has nothing to do with the STL shitshow. The GOP AG filed it. He lied to the Ethics commission under oath about it too. Everyone likes the Lt Gov. Parsons. Greitens is gone.

Get your facts straight, the STATE Attorney General did an investigation and referred it to the St. Louis City Prosecuting Attorney who immediately added the additional charge to the indictment. The Attorney General did not file any charges. I have heard that since he is running for Senator, he did it to cover his own ass and there isn't much to it.

You are misinformed. There is plenty to it. My point was The AG did the investigation. Also, a special prosecutor will try it, it was just filed in STL for the statute of limitations.

Really, all the news I have seen says Gardner has yet to decide if a prosecutor from her office will do the case or if she will appoint a special prosecutor. It has worked out so well for Gardner with her "special" investigator and "special' assistant/consultant prosecutor.

I don't think the citizens of St. Louis will be too happy with hundreds of thousands of dollars (probably into the millions with a special prosecutor) being spent on this case, with a crap load of murder and armed robbery cases sitting on the sidelines.

Top leaders in MO Senate both GOP of course just released statement saying they don’t give a crap the criminal case was dismissed and that now the Governor has time to come speak to the special disciplinary session that starts May 18. No love for the Gov.

Good for Greitens. Long live the Republic

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Top leaders in MO Senate both GOP of course just released statement saying they don’t give a crap the criminal case was dismissed and that now the Governor has time to come speak to the special disciplinary session that starts May 18. No love for the Gov.

Almost reminds you of how Trump is being treated. No?

Sure seems to me that the professional politicians (from both sides) are upset that non-professionals are getting into office and upsetting their apple carts. Can't have that, can we?

Can't have it, noooo

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Top leaders in MO Senate both GOP.....

It seems more like "Deeply entrenched swamp dwellers" there is no "leadership" that I can discern. If there was, wouldn't they wait until Greitens was actually proven guilty of something before they attempt to punish him. That is, unless he is upsetting their little fiefdoms and they are just going for some pay-back.

Ken S

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Top leaders in MO Senate both GOP.....

It seems more like "Deeply entrenched swamp dwellers" there is no "leadership" that I can discern. If there was, wouldn't they wait until Greitens was actually proven guilty of something before they attempt to punish him. That is, unless he is upsetting their little fiefdoms and they are just going for some pay-back.
Ken S

Exactly right, Ken.
What this is really about is tax credits. The Lieutenant Governor favors them, Greitens wants to get rid of them. It's an all Republican swamp here... and I fear it is deep enough and wide enough that Greitens may not be able to drain it.

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It depends on the meaning of "moral turpitude":
Which is... whatever the House Judiciary Committee thinks it is....

According to Section 1 of Article 7 of the Missouri Constitution, any executive officials in the state is "liable to impeachment for crimes, misconduct, and habitual drunkenness, willful neglect of duty, and corruption in office, incompetency, or any offense involving moral turpitude or oppression in office."

I'm wondering what the charges could possibly be if the 'victim' proclaims publicly 'it may have all been a dream'.....

Okay, splitting hairs here, but the above says, “...or any offense involving moral turpitude or oppression in office.” Does the “in office” qualifier apply to “moral turpitude”? If so, he’s off the hook as the alleged offense happened before he became governor.

Chet Pleban (local attorney) talks on the Dave Glover Show about Greitens's case being dismissed on 5/14/2018:

Pleban Talks About Greitens Case

I listen to today's show where Dave Glover had Pleban back to discuss stuff that has come out in the last 24 hours. A Special Prosecutor will probably get appointed......to investigate the Prosecuting Attorney Gardner for several of her actions. Gardner has no trial experience at all.

1. She meet with the victim for a 1 on 1 private interview (no prosecutor with any experience would be dumb enough to do that), which makes her a witness now.
2. During the interview with her hired special investigator, the one where they said the camera wasn't working (and then they found the tape), the investigator said he didn't take any notes (opps, on tape taking notes). The whole time the interview was going on, Gardner was sitting next to her investigator......it looks a lot like she was suborning perjury.

The photo case against Greitens is dead. Without a photo or an electronic record of a photo, no real prosecutor in the USA would take the case forward.

The "special session" of the Missouri legislature gets underway today to consider the impeachment of the governor.

Missouri to launch special session on Greitens allegations

JEFFERSON CITY, Mo. (AP) — The case against Missouri Gov. Eric Greitens is shifting from a St. Louis courtroom to a Capitol committee room.

A special, monthlong legislative session devoted to allegations against the Republican governor was to get underway Friday evening with the goal of determining whether to try to impeach Greitens in an effort to oust him from office.

The special session was to start just 30 minutes after the official end of the Legislature's regular session, and just five days after the St. Louis circuit attorney's office dropped a felony charge accusing Greitens of taking a nonconsensual photo of a partially nude woman in 2015.

Allegations of sexual misconduct during what Greitens' describes as a consensual affair are likely to be revived during the special session. Lawmakers also will be looking into whether to discipline Greitens for using a donor list from a veterans charity he founded to raise money for his 2016 gubernatorial campaign, and whether he committed any other campaign finance violations.

The Missouri Constitution says executive officeholders can be impeached for crimes, misconduct and "moral turpitude," among other things. It does not require a conviction in a criminal court — a key fact, considering the special session will be starting before prosecutors have decided whether to refile the invasion-of-privacy charge against Greitens.

No trial date has been set on a separate St. Louis felony charging Greitens with tampering with computer data for allegedly misusing The Mission Continues donor list.

Greitens so far has declined to appear before a special House investigatory committee that's been taking testimony about allegations against him since March. He hasn't said whether will testify during the special session.

The governor has been gearing up to fight for his political life. He's hired two private attorneys to represent the governor's office and several others to represent him in his personal capacity.

Governor's office attorneys Ross Garber and Eddie Greim have urged the House to adopt rules allowing Greitens' lawyers to submit subpoena requests for documents and witnesses, and to cross-examine others who testify before the House committee. They said similar procedures were adopted as Connecticut, Illinois and Alabama considered gubernatorial impeachments during the past decade.

Committee chairman Rep. Jay Barnes said he likely will honor gubernatorial requests to call witnesses. But he has shown little inclination to allow Greitens' attorneys to question witnesses — a privilege reserved only for members of the special investigative committee under its current rules.

The tiff over procedural rules highlights an underlying controversy about the special session. A total of 139 of the 161 House members and 29 of the 33 senators signed a petition calling for the session. But of those who didn't, some believe the Legislature is acting too quickly.

Rep. Bill White, a Republican attorney from Joplin, would prefer that lawmakers wait to decide on impeachment until after any criminal trials are concluded, so that they can get the benefit of seeing Greitens' defense.

"I think it's premature," White said. "I have grave concerns on the process we're doing."

Yet GOP legislative leaders have faced criticism from others, especially Democrats, for not attempting to impeach Greitens more quickly.

House Majority Whip Steve Lynch, a Waynesville Republican, said he won't be rallying support for impeaching Greitens — even if that's what the House committee recommends. Instead, he said his duties would focus solely on counting potential votes among colleagues.

"We want people to vote their own conscience and not to feel pressure — at least not from me — to vote one way or the other," Lynch said.

https://apnews.com/db83a0a54d074c089f1816fbefdfe1dd

Impeached for what? I haven't been able to divine anything that this man has done which would call for his impeachment.

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Impeached for what?

Impeached for the DEM highest criminal act:

"Holding office while Republican"