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Everytime I'm tellin' secrets I remember how it used to be And I realized how much I miss you And I realize how it feels to be free Now I see I'm up to no good (no, no, no) And I wanna start again Can't remember when I felt good, baby No, I can't remember when No, only in my dreams As real as it may seem It was only in my dreams" Link to original video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IivGqwQvdCI | |||
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Too old to run, too mean to quit! |
Have you hired a food taster?? Elk There has never been an occasion where a people gave up their weapons in the interest of peace that didn't end in their massacre. (Louis L'Amour) "To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves and abhors, is sinful and tyrannical. " -Thomas Jefferson "America is great because she is good. If America ceases to be good, America will cease to be great." Alexis de Tocqueville FBHO!!! The Idaho Elk Hunter | |||
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Add my agreement as well. Elk There has never been an occasion where a people gave up their weapons in the interest of peace that didn't end in their massacre. (Louis L'Amour) "To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves and abhors, is sinful and tyrannical. " -Thomas Jefferson "America is great because she is good. If America ceases to be good, America will cease to be great." Alexis de Tocqueville FBHO!!! The Idaho Elk Hunter | |||
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Too old to run, too mean to quit! |
Given the past few years, I am surprised that anyone would be willing to subject themselves to this kind of craziness. Political activist "prosecutors" hiring out of state PRIVATE investigators, photographs that apparently do not exist, so-called "victims" have so little concept of reality that they "might have dreamed" up a photo that does not seem to exist. I am not supporting the victim in all of this. If he had kept it in his pants he would not be in this particular bucket of shit. Altho, they would most likely find some other non-issue to blow totally out of proportion to get him out of office. And, IMO, this kind of craziness is going to continue, and get worse, because there is little to no punishment when the perps get caught. By perps I mean those of the "prosecutor's" ilk. Elk There has never been an occasion where a people gave up their weapons in the interest of peace that didn't end in their massacre. (Louis L'Amour) "To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves and abhors, is sinful and tyrannical. " -Thomas Jefferson "America is great because she is good. If America ceases to be good, America will cease to be great." Alexis de Tocqueville FBHO!!! The Idaho Elk Hunter | |||
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There is no "victim". The woman involved apparently wants nothing to do with this and has only provided testimony because she was forced to. She's not recanting an accusation. She never made an accusation...at least in any legal sense. The photo story came from a surreptitiously recorded conversation between her and her ex-husband where she attempted to justify her continued tryst. This is a deal between her ex-husband and the prosecutor. | |||
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(emphasis mine) Link So if she admitted to sending him a nude or partially nude photo of herself three months before the alleged and yet-to-be produced blackmail photo, why would Greitens have had to take another photo to blackmail her with? | |||
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Unflappable Enginerd |
And yet they managed to charge the Governor with a felony invasion-of-privacy charge. This stinks to high heaven... __________________________________ NRA Benefactor I lost all my weapons in a boating, umm, accident. http://www.aufamily.com/forums/ | |||
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I was wrong and obviously jumped the gun before waiting for the facts. mea culpa "Violence, naked force, has settled more issues in history than has any other factor.” Robert A. Heinlein “You may beat me, but you will never win.” sigmonkey-2020 “A single round of buckshot to the torso almost always results in an immediate change of behavior.” Chris Baker | |||
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Peace through superior firepower |
Dreamed it, huh? Yeah, that's been done. | |||
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Step by step walk the thousand mile road |
He was around for more than four hours, eh? As for the Greitens indictment, "... district attorneys now have so much influence on grand juries that by and large they could get them to indict a ham sandwich." So said Sol Wachtler, the former chief judge of New York state, who was himself found to be a "ham sandwich." Nice is overrated "It's every freedom-loving individual's duty to lie to the government." Airsoftguy, June 29, 2018 | |||
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Never miss an opportunity to be Batman! |
This case is just hilarious and serious sit back and eat popcorn watching it unfold for us in the Missouri and St. Louis area. The democratic Soros' supported prosecutor indicts the republican governor based on an audio tape between the ex-husband and his ex-wife/governor's former mistress. Of course no one has the alleged photo or seen the alleged photo. The prosecutor tries to get trial date set as the day before the November elections, judge sets date in May. The prosecutor also hires an out of town investigator who has been disciplined for lying as an FBI agent. He does a 2 hour interview with the mistress....of course for some reason the tape doesn't record or is lost according to the prosecutor. The investigator testified during the grand jury that he made notes on this interview and they were on his laptop.....no notes on laptop, then he admits that he did not make notes on the interview (hmmm, perjured testimony to the grand jury). Prosecutor knew that the mistress said she may have dreamed the event during her interview and statement....which was not included in any of the discovery or Brady information to the defense. Defense finds out abut this during their deposition of the mistress. So right now the St. Louis City Prosecutor, Kim Gardner (think clone of Baltimore City female prosecutor) doesn't have the photo, doesn't have a willing victim, has a big difference in the statements of the investigator and mistress during her interview, with no tape or notes. I am pretty sure this is what happened: the mistress made up a story to the ex-husband about how the affair occurred, not knowing he was recording her (old human trait of not making yourself look bad). She then uses the "Dallas Dream" excuse to try and clear it up. The ex husband apparently tried shopping the recording around before the election but no one gave him the time of day. The new Soros' sponsored prosecutor comes to office and decides to "get" the maverick republican governor. | |||
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The Unknown Stuntman |
Thank you for that. I appreciate it. | |||
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posting without pants |
I've been lower profile here since the elsection of this current state prosecutor in St. Louis, but let me express my own personal opinion here AS A VOTER AND CONSTITUTE of the are... She is beyond a horrible choice, and she is going to lose this case in the most catastrophic, and spectacular way possible. It would be laughable if it weren't pathetic. This current one has the officers in the city of St. Louis Police Department refusing to testify in murder cases, because they do not trust her to not bring mickey mouse charges against the officers. That's right.... Actual detectives will refuse to take the witness stand against the suspect, because they believe they prosecuting attorney will try to railroad them with anything possible against them.... What does that tell you? As yet, they cannot produce the supposed "picture" They cannot even produce the "victim" (meaning the woman who was supposedly the "lover") or any evidence anywhere. This case is going to go NOWHERE... and it will be another on an increasing long list that a horribly incompetent attorney will lose. But the voting majority of the people in the city here will not care... She claims to be "progressive" and for "social justice" (which apparently mean sucking at law school....) Strive to live your life so when you wake up in the morning and your feet hit the floor, the devil says "Oh crap, he's up." | |||
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Happily Retired |
In my neck of the woods nobody cares about any of this...they never have. Greitens is doing a great job. .....never marry a woman who is mean to your waitress. | |||
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Lawyers, Guns and Money |
Kim Gardner was chosen for her race and her "progressive" politics, not for her legal ability. St. Louis City has two political parties: White Democrat and Black Democrat. Almost all Republicans have been driven out of the City by the City Earnings Tax. Like Detroit, 70% of the population has moved out of the City: "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." -- Justice Janice Rogers Brown "The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth." -rduckwor | |||
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Never miss an opportunity to be Batman! |
Amen. For the Chicago Cops, she is trying to do to the St. Louis City cops what COPA is trying to do to you. 4 more years and I can retire. I plan on moving far away but stay in Missouri. I just won't live within 200 miles of any form of public transportation. | |||
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Lawyers, Guns and Money |
Want to See How Desperate Democrats Are? Look No Further Than the Show-Me State. By Cindy O’Laughlin • 02/26/18 Governor Eric Greitens is the latest victim of politicized prosecution. If you’re a Democrat in Missouri, the last few years haven’t been kind to you. The Governor, the Lt. Governor, one Senator, the Attorney General, the Secretary of State, the State Treasurer, and super majorities in both the State House and State Senate—they all belong to Republicans. To the shock and dismay of many Missouri Democrats, Donald Trump won Missouri by a whopping 19 percent. So what’s a frustrated Missouri Democrat to do? Of course: Find a liberal circuit attorney to indict a sitting Republican Governor on, at best, a flimsy legal pretext. That’s exactly what’s befallen Republican Governor Eric Greitens. The rising star, Rhodes Scholar, former Navy SEAL, and humanitarian was indicted by the St. Louis Circuit Attorney Kim Gardner last week. I am not defending the Governor’s personal actions—an affair that he has already admitted was a mistake—but any fair reading of the facts of this indictment point to this being a political hit job, not an iron-clad legal case. In fact, this might be the prime example of what happens when liberals infect the legal system: it seems Kim Gardner’s politics may be driving this indictment. She isn’t just a Circuit Attorney who happens to be a Democrat. She’s avowedly anti-police and anti-law enforcement—and she’s taken tens of thousands of dollars from George Soros, who has supported anti-law enforcement attorneys around the country. Gardner’s own beliefs and that money are clouding her judgment. In this specific case, her misjudgment is plain for all to see. Ordinarily, a public prosecutor’s job is to get justice for the wronged. With the indictment against the Governor, she has a case with no client—no one on whose behalf she’s pursuing justice. The woman at the center of all of this has asked for privacy. She’s said she wants it all to go away. The information about this issue—a recording made secretly by her aggrieved ex-husband—was released without her consent, and from the beginning of this whole sordid mess, she has asked for the world to bugger off and kindly leave her and her children alone. That fact is important: Kim Gardner decided of her own accord to bring this action against the Governor. So we’re left to conclude that this taxpayer-funded show trial is simply the work of an overeager, liberal prosecutor trying to score some points with Democrats (and moderate Republicans). Hence the fishing expedition: During the course of the several-week long investigation, her focus has changed as many times as there have been weeks. One minute, she’s looking into alleged blackmail. The next, she’s investigating campaign activities. The next, she’s looking into how the Governor’s office uses its cell phones. Quick guys, she seems to be saying, find me something to go on. What’s worse: she’s even gone around the police in her investigation. As anyone who has seen even one episode of Law & Order knows, prosecutors and police work together to bring down criminals. In this case, the prosecutor has decided that police weren’t fit for the job: instead of using police investigators to look into the allegations against Governor Greitens, Kim Gardner hired a private security firm to conduct the investigation. She won’t release who is paying for this firm or how much it’s costing taxpayers. This is highly irregular: someone from law enforcement not trusting others in law enforcement to do a basic job they do every day. Let’s be honest: This isn’t the pursuit of justice. It’s a witch hunt from by a liberal prosecutor run amok. If this were her only troubling case, it might be forgiven. But it’s only the latest in a series of serious blunders. In the last year, her office has been losing staff, wrecking cases, and even conflicted itself out of cases. To advise her office, she hired an attorney who, it turned out, had been stripped of his law license. One former employee, speaking to the St. Louis Post Dispatch, simply said: “There’s trouble in the office.” Trouble, indeed. Gardner has upset police officers and law enforcement officials throughout the state with her misconduct. In one incident, a St. Louis judge was forced to disqualify her office from pursuing a police shooting case, because she was prosecuting the defendant and investigating whether the shooting was justified—at the same time. You need neither a law degree nor time as a prosecutor to know that’s ridiculous. Apparently, Kim Gardner needed a judge to remind her of basic prosecutorial standards. The indictment of the Governor is an unfortunate case all around, but it’s exactly what the liberal media wants. It means ratings and clicks for them, all at the expense of the truth, and it means liberal prosecutors trying to get a win in a state that’s opposed to them politically. Frustrated Missourians, and Americans, who still believe the truth matters should stand up for the Governor and oppose this show trial. Kim Gardner is pursuing politics of the very worst kind, and it’s time to call this charade what it is: an abuse of power by a liberal prosecutor and a miscarriage of justice. http://observer.com/2018/02/wa...n-the-show-me-state/ "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." -- Justice Janice Rogers Brown "The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth." -rduckwor | |||
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Distinguished Pistol Shot |
Amen. For the Chicago Cops, she is trying to do to the St. Louis City cops what COPA is trying to do to you. 4 more years and I can retire. I plan on moving far away but stay in Missouri. I just won't live within 200 miles of any form of public transportation. [/QUOTE] Come on down to Texas County. Great trout fishing and a very nice shooting range. | |||
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Never miss an opportunity to be Batman! |
Come on down to Texas County. Great trout fishing and a very nice shooting range.[/QUOTE] I am really looking hard in the area around Bennett Springs State Park, my favorite trout park. Also looking in the northwest portion of the state, my older sister has a cabin up there. I saw a really nice property up there: good house with 33 acres of turkey and deer land....smack dab in the middle of a large Amish community (no worries of loud parties by the neighbors). | |||
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You answered my question before I asked it JsbCody. I owe you a beer. | |||
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