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Originally posted by dsiets:

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Originally posted by PrinceAliFabulousHe:
I'm not a fan of the Proud Boys, but not because I think they're White Supremacists. It's because fighting the left in the streets plays into the left's hands. It lets you get filmed and then the video gets posted to social media where they can cry about how mean and racist you are.

I see it the other way. Police (hands tied), store owners, and the law abiding public not doing anything is what has emboldened these critters to keep doing what they are doing while the media cheers them on as being "mostly" peaceful as they leave a wake of destruction.
Even when they do get caught they get bailed out.
I've no problem w/ them meeting some true resistance rather than everyone laying down for them.

Not doing anything also plays into the left's hands.

Well, I'm not saying to do nothing. I'm just saying to not fight them in the street. I'm a hunt them down at home type of person.

The Media Cartel's media destruction of the Proud Boys is strong.
How in the hell anyone could use the massive-racist-liberal Southern Poverty Law Center as a source for fact is beyond delusional.

I think they have changed over their creation but an interesting video on the origin.
I've always found Gavin McInnes quite interesting and never heard anything radical out of his mouth.

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I was (and forever) an "Oath Keeper" from the 70s.

When I enlisted and swore the Oath, it was the with all the conviction I have.

I swore that same Oath, several times after, and was flag bearer to several enlistments for others.

It was and is, without repentance.

In that same light, having sworn that Oath, I made a choice that "Whatever it takes..." I will honor that Oath, until I am no longer capable of doing so. So, that puts my smack in the middle of the III%. (In the spirit of those men who faced the King and all of his horses and all of his men.)

And, since those men were "The" militia of the day, I must be part of the militia (and I waved the 45 year old clause, because, well I like waving).

All of that makes me sort of chauvinistic, in a "west world minded" way, and I guess one might call me proud.

But I have no formal, paid, card carrying membership to any group. Not that I have anything against such, only that I do not need to be in order to be who and what I am.

I was these things before these things were things.

And, I know, I am not alone.

Silent Majority.
(Never turn it up to 11)

Fuck all the GDCs that hate all who do and will stand resolute, against them.

I am an American.

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I'm gonna join monkey's group. If he'll let me.
s.

I joined this group in '71. Still there.
WETSU

Man, I followed this thread since it started last evening. And, I kept looking to see if TAllen01 can come up with "quotes and facts" about the Proud Boys from any sources other than his favorite SPLC (a commie hate-America organization), the ADL (another leftist group), and the FBI (the FBI, are you kidding me?). All I hear is crickets.

My understanding is the Oath Keepers are ex-military and ex-law enforcement. Is that true?

Now that we've talked some about the Proud Boys- how about the 3 Percenters? Any opinions about them?

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Originally posted by 12131:
Man, I followed this thread since it started last evening. And, I kept looking to see if TAllen01 can come up with "quotes and facts" about the Proud Boys from any sources other than his favorite SPLC (a commie hate-America organization), the ADL (another leftist group), and the FBI (the FBI, are you kidding me?). All I hear is crickets.

I don't expect TAllen01 to either pony up valid references as they're non-existent, nor apologize for being an ill-informed, condescending, insulting, lecturing jackwad.

Did someone say he was a left coast college professor? If so, his lack of reasoning and behavior fits.

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^^^

Thinking we may need extra popcorn this Sunday.

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"In 2002, for instance,

Yet comments made by Biden years back are inconsequential these days. Comments made by chapter leaders of the BLM are ignored yet outright racist and violent.

They aren't a hate group. They work to dance around the classification of ANRTIFA because it's only an "Idea".

They run a video with some violent reactions in it. Any shortage of that in videos from WI, Portland, Seattle and others?

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In 2019, two Proud Boys were sentenced to four years in prison for attempted gang assault, attempted assault, and other charges for a 2018 New York incident where they attacked individuals who prosecutors said were members of antifa

They same group that were firebombing building with people inside? And police and other emergency vehicles? But THEWY aren't a hate group...

Their leader doesn't seem to fit the image of a white supremist group...




The SPLC lists a few groups that are "Male Supremacy "

They ignore the opposite though..

Femocracy Global
https://femocracyglobal.com/

The SPLC is far from the source to be trusted.

https://reason.com/2019/03/27/...w-center-hate-crime/

Why would you want to follow a Canadian of questionable character who's main goal seems to be showing up at protests promoting violence?

What do you intend to gain from becoming a "proud boy" ?? The entire "gang" was started as a joke. It was a joke. You might find a handful of people that are not complete idiots, the rest will be all over the idiot spectrum.

Gavin McInnes looks like an actual hipster doofus. Can't tell if he's doing a bit or actually believes the crap he says. A completely useless organization. Good luck with all that!

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Gavin Mclnnes vows lawsuit against Biden, media over ‘white supremacist’ claims

October 2, 2020 | Jon Dougherty |  Print Article

Vice co-founder Gavin McInnes vowed to file lawsuits against Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden and various media outlets for labeling an organization he helped launch as a “white supremacist” “neo-Nazi” group.

McInnes, who also co-founded the right-wing group Proud Boys, told Newsmax TV host Chris Salcedo of his plans during an interview Wednesday after the organization came up during the first debate a day earlier between Biden and President Donald Trump.

“I’m suing them. I’m suing Joe Biden. I’m suing CNN. All of these reporters that call this multi-racial patriotic group white supremacists and Nazis,” McInnes said.

“As far as I’m concerned, that’s the new ’N’ word. You call me a Nazi? That’s as bad as any other racial epithet,” he continued. “Those people killed six million Jews, and to call us that is a deep-seated insult.

“So, we’re not tolerating it anymore,” he continued.

Salcedo noted that the Proud Boys is a multi-ethnic organization whose current leader is Latino.

McInnes’ threat comes as the chief of the Utah chapter of Proud Boys, who only identified himself as Thad, a person of color, told assembled media this week unequivocally that his organization opposed white supremacy and other forms of racial hatred.

“I will go out and say that the Proud Boys, as a whole…I will say this on behalf of the entire national organization, denounce white supremacy,” he said. “We are in no way, shape, or form white supremacists.”

Thad noted that the organization carefully vets new members to ensure they don’t harbor any racist ideology.

The chapter leader appeared with a local Black Lives Matter leader, Jacarri Kelley, who also denounced racism while calling for unity.

“We do need to be able to reach across the aisle and have these tough conversations,” she said, according to KUTV, noting that BLM and Proud Boys in the region have been coming together to discuss issues.

In his interview with Salcedo, McInnes noted that he has filed suit in the past against the Southern Poverty Law Center for mischaracterizing Proud Boys as a hate group.

“Now we’re gonna start getting litigious with everyone. It’s the only way to fight back,” he said, “because the justice system doesn’t do it.”

McInnes said two Proud Boys members are currently in jail “for fighting Antifa” demonstrators after “Antifa started the fight. It was mutual combat.”

He went on to accuse Biden of being “senile” and “mentally weak” for labeling Proud Boys as white supremacists.

“When you’re incurious and your brain is going, which seems to be about half the American population these days, then the tiki torch guys in Charlottesville, and Patriot Prayer, and militia, and three-percenters, and Trump supporters, they’re all the same, and the KKK,” McInnes continued.

“In these people’s minds, it’s all the same group, even though the KKK hates all of Proud Boys and people like” the group’s leader, Enrique Tarrio — who also heads up the grassroots organization Latinos for Trump — McInnes continued.

“They’re incapable of nuance,” he added.

https://www.bizpacreview.com/2...macist-claims-979805

SLC BLM and Proud Boys have joint presser

https://www.citizenfreepress.c...ter-leader-is-black/

I do not belong to any organized group unless you count the hundreds of thousands of veterans who took the oath.

Until one is released from an oath it is binding.



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Originally posted by DonDraper:
Why would you want to follow a Canadian of questionable character who's main goal seems to be showing up at protests promoting violence?

What do you intend to gain from becoming a "proud boy" ?? The entire "gang" was started as a joke. It was a joke. You might find a handful of people that are not complete idiots, the rest will be all over the idiot spectrum.

Gavin McInnes looks like an actual hipster doofus. Can't tell if he's doing a bit or actually believes the crap he says. A completely useless organization. Good luck with all that!

Dispense with the ad hominens. I think it's pretty well settled in this thread Proud Boys were started as a joke. Clearly they've evolved into something else.

Do McInnis and his Boys show up at protests promoting violence or pushing back against it?

You may consider the group useless but I don't ever see anyone else standing with them. I consider their presence at rallies or protests somewhat gratifying.

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Originally posted by Expat:

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Originally posted by DonDraper:
Why would you want to follow a Canadian of questionable character who's main goal seems to be showing up at protests promoting violence?

What do you intend to gain from becoming a "proud boy" ?? The entire "gang" was started as a joke. It was a joke. You might find a handful of people that are not complete idiots, the rest will be all over the idiot spectrum.

Gavin McInnes looks like an actual hipster doofus. Can't tell if he's doing a bit or actually believes the crap he says. A completely useless organization. Good luck with all that!

Dispense with the ad hominens. I think it's pretty well settled in this thread Proud Boys were started as a joke. Clearly they've evolved into something else.

Do McInnis and his Boys show up at protests promoting violence or pushing back against it?

You may consider the group useless but I don't ever see anyone else standing with them. I consider their presence at rallies or protests somewhat gratifying.

It's evolved into something downright goofy. I can't take anyone serious in this thread that wants to go down and join their "local proud boys" chapter. Mind boggling. The media has turned it into a neo-nazi white supremacist group - and no matter how untrue it is - you will NEVER undo that. Never. Like I said, good luck with all that. Definitely keep us all up to date on how your gang life is going after joining.

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It's evolved into something downright goofy. I can't take anyone serious in this thread that wants to go down and join their "local proud boys" chapter. Mind boggling. The media has turned it into a neo-nazi white supremacist group - and no matter how untrue it is - you will NEVER undo that.

So, the Media has pushed the narrative that President Donald Trump is a racist, neo-nazi, white supremacist. And worse. And he'll NEVER undo that.

Are we "idiots" to embrace Trump?

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Originally posted by DonDraper:
It's evolved into something downright goofy. I can't take anyone serious in this thread that wants to go down and join their "local proud boys" chapter. Mind boggling. The media has turned it into a neo-nazi white supremacist group - and no matter how untrue it is - you will NEVER undo that. Never. Like I said, good luck with all that. Definitely keep us all up to date on how your gang life is going after joining.

Got to shake my head and roll my eyes at this one. You know the media have been calling us Trumpers racists these last 4 years, right? And, you know what? We DON'T.GIVE.A.FUCK. We won't try to undo a goddamn thing. You know they call the President racist, too, right? You think the President has been trying to "undo" anything? "Mind boggling"? Look into the fucking mirror.

ETA: oddball typed much faster than I.

Like I said - join up and let us all know how it goes.

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Originally posted by DonDraper:
It's evolved into something downright goofy. I can't take anyone serious in this thread that wants to go down and join their "local proud boys" chapter. Mind boggling. The media has turned it into a neo-nazi white supremacist group - and no matter how untrue it is - you will NEVER undo that.

So, the Media has pushed the narrative that President Donald Trump is a racist, neo-nazi, white supremacist. And worse. And he'll NEVER undo that.

Are we "idiots" to embrace Trump?

I'll still be voting for Trump a second time. I won't be joining a goofy gang so I can go to protests and beat up the other idiots.

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Seems to me that only a few years ago I was a terrorist by virtue of being a vet.

Reminds me that I do have some new magazines that want to be fed.

I'm classified as a white supremacist because I'm white, have a dick, and accepted Christ as my Savior.
I've been on their Telegram chat site and have yet to see anything racist posted, other that by someone sharing an article from the fake news claim as such.

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Originally posted by DonDraper:... The media has turned it into a neo-nazi white supremacist group - and no matter how untrue it is - you will NEVER undo that. Never. ....

The media has turned all manner of things into fiction and fiction to truth and fact.

I can't take anyone serious in this thread that willing accepts such narratives as reality. Mind boggling.