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Originally posted by TAllen01:
This post is a joke, right?

They are the definition of a white supremacist hate group...

This is the head of The Proud Boys, Afro-Cuban Enrique Tarrio. Maybe you should let him know he's the leader of a white supremacist group:

Oddball...

Nope. We good. I did not think that comment was directed at me.

Thanks for participating.

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Oath Keepers

A friend of mine was in that group back when they first got started. If memory serves, he was encouraged to join by the priest at his Baptist church, if that tells you anything about the group. Not sure if they've changed or not.

Admittedly, that was probably over 10 years ago.

Just for fun, SPLC labels them as "radicals" as well... They (the SPLC) really are a terrible benchmark for pretty much anything.

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Originally posted by bozman:
TAllen01...

HAHAHAHA... Every one of your sources isn't worth a shit and I would not waste my time reading any of them.

Your sources are as valid as me stating, "I heard TAllen01 is a cunt... I read it in a bathroom stall".

Who the hell cares if they are labeled that by those sources... In the past year I have been labeled racist, misogynistic, toxically male and being privileged all because I am a white man who does not believe the democrat narrative.

Respectfully... get da fuck out of here with that trash.

To the rest of you... thanks for your replies so far.

Sounds like you only want opinion that confirms what you have already decided. Why ask?

Boz.

Please keep us posted on your findings.
(or feel free to email me)

I have tried finding out factual information on both Proud Boys and Patriot Prayer, but almost every hit on google has these groups skinning live puppies and drop kicking kicking small kittens.

There has been systematic vilifying of all sorts of groups from the above mentioned, including 3%, Oath Keepers, and so forth.

Yet most of the information on AntiFirstAmendment is that it is some organic result of many different and unconnected people popping up overnight like mushrooms after a spring shower.

With all the blatant and no longer hidden biased and agenda driven attacks on anything "on the right" being synonymous with Nazism, hate, bigotry, prejudice, and the tired and worn out saw of White Supremacy", by the likes of google, FakeBook, the Twatters and various other "social" platforms, the media, and damn near the entire Democratic Mob.

I would like to know the honest truth and facts of these "alt-right" (labels from the GDCs) groups, and seeing some people carrying water for the likes of agenda driven Marxist as the SPLC as being relevant sources of "truth" boggles the mind.

-sm

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Originally posted by TAllen01:


*Badge of honor. (Blocked by someone who wants to join an undeniably racist organization.) "Founder quote: We seem really racist and homophobic because we hang around with fags and niggers so much." No, not racist at all.

You're truly hopeless. Are you seriously this thick headed? You'd make a great politician. The truth is right there, and yet you effortlessly and shamelessly keep pushing your lies as if you're Joe Biden on a debate stage.

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Originally posted by sigmonkey:
...but almost every hit on google has these groups skinning live puppies and drop kicking kicking small kittens.
-sm

It's a trick!!

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Originally posted by stoic-one:...
It's a trick!!

Sigmonkey...

Wilco...

I do not have any personal deadlines to come to a decision, but I will figure out which, if any group I want to associate with sooner rather than later.

I don't trust much that is posted on the net or by big media companies, and they all hate these groups anyways based on the reporting I have seen. So, I figure it's best that I attend some gatherings, see for myself and get some real life intel.

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Originally posted by TigerDore:

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Originally posted by TAllen01:
This post is a joke, right?

They are the definition of a white supremacist hate group...

This is the head of The Proud Boys, Afro-Cuban Enrique Tarrio. Maybe you should let him know he's the leader of a white supremacist group:

Let’s also point out he was ELECTED to that position by his fellow “white supremacists”, making the entire organization a collection of really bad racists, and by “bad” I mean not very good at it.

While the FBI at one point mentioned concerns for white supremacy connects, they have since recanted that claim.

As others have said, SPLC is less trustworthy than 3-day old sushi at a Tulsa truck stop in August.

My final observation - anyone on the left and most of the media will AUTOMATICALLY equate any right leaning organization, especially one willing to go armed against BLM, Antifa, etc as racist/white supremacist/KKK affiliated just for being ultra conservative and willing to stand up to the violence of the left.

Extreme left/progressive action is “mostly peaceful” yet riots, arson, looting, assault is the norm for the movement and is tolerated as part of the democrat party. Meanwhile “Alt-right” carries racist violent connotations and is used to slander anyone unwilling to accept the extreme left.

jhe888...

No. That is not the case at all.

From my original post...

"I'd like to hear from those that are Proud Boys and those who have considered it, but decided against it (and why)."

I wanted unbiased information, not a lecture. The fact that this person used the SPLC as a source just shows that he has no useful information to provide, just talking points from a leftist (I would say criminal) organization.

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Originally posted by bozman:
I wanted unbiased information, not a lecture. The fact that this person used the SPLC as a source just shows that he has no useful information to provide, just talking points from a leftist (I would say criminal) organization.

bozman,

Well said! :thumbsup:

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As others have said, SPLC is less trustworthy than 3-day old sushi at a Tulsa truck stop in August.

That's for damn sure.
Pick a group on the right that they don't label as "extreme". I'm not even sure if they wouldn't label the Republican party itself "racist". I'll hang up and listen...

Also check out a group called American Contingency. These guys are just getting off the ground. I like their messaging.

I've already mentioned Enrique Tarrio to TAllen01 earlier in this thread. No response.

From what I know of the Proud Boys, they are rock 'em sock 'em. They are not afraid to get physical and fight, and not afraid to get dirty. They will go to ground in a heartbeat. They are coarse, disciplined guys who are fed up with what they perceive to be threats to civility. I've met many at several rallies in PDX and SLE. They just want to push back on antifa.

Of the guys I've met, they just want to "DO" something to push back.

The whole thing started off as a joke by Gavin - who is a satirist / provocative type comedian who says shit to get reactions out of people.

History of the whole thing was discussed on Joe Rogan.



There is another episode of JRE where Gavin is a guest.

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Originally posted by cyanide357:
The whole thing started off as a joke by Gavin - who is a satirist / provocative type comedian who says shit to get reactions out of people.

Great video and supports my earlier comments. Thumbs up.

I'm not a fan of the Proud Boys, but not because I think they're White Supremacists. It's because fighting the left in the streets plays into the left's hands. It lets you get filmed and then the video gets posted to social media where they can cry about how mean and racist you are.

Any organization that the MSM, academics, and our betters tells us peasants that they are bad and should be hated, I'll support. As far as I'm aware, the Proud Boys haven't set any cities on fire, they haven't murdered cops, they haven't shown up in public places demanding others to kneel to their ideas.

People like TAllen01, think they are truly our betters. That we are incapable of doing our own research and making our own decisions. Instead we should obey the ruling class whether they are from the UN, academia, celebrities or NGOs.

They use phrases like "our own government" thinking that somehow that is the only statement needed for our servitude.

Is this the same "our government" that has repeatedly put up false charges on Trump? Is it the same "our government" that says climate change is the biggest threat to humanity? The same "our government" that spied on its citizens ,especially the ones that disagreed, and lied about it?

Y'all get my point. We have finally reached the point where we will not be lied to anymore.

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Originally posted by PrinceAliFabulousHe:
I'm not a fan of the Proud Boys, but not because I think they're White Supremacists. It's because fighting the left in the streets plays into the left's hands. It lets you get filmed and then the video gets posted to social media where they can cry about how mean and racist you are.

I see it the other way. Police (hands tied), store owners, and the law abiding public not doing anything is what has emboldened these critters to keep doing what they are doing while the media cheers them on as being "mostly" peaceful as they leave a wake of destruction.
Even when they do get caught they get bailed out.
I've no problem w/ them meeting some true resistance rather than everyone laying down for them.

Not doing anything also plays into the left's hands.

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We have finally reached the point where we will not be lied to anymore.

Yes.