If I remember correctly, Hillary blamed Obama for not winning the presidency during one of her $100,000 speeches. Now he blames her. Ironic that they're both still making money by blaming each other.

Hillary lost because the better man won. Much deservedly so. Very rightfully so. Because there are still enough good people in America who know the difference between right and wrong.

Does matter how good or bad her campaign was. Hillary was bad for America. Trump won because he was the better choice, the right choice.

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Originally posted by konata88:
Hillary lost because the better man won. Much deservedly so. Very rightfully so. Because there are still enough good people in America who know the difference between right and wrong.

Does matter how good or bad her campaign was. Hillary was bad for America. Trump won because he was the better choice, the right choice.

In essence, yes.

Hillary was a shitty candidate, by any metric, even before you got to the policies. Not only that, she ran a shitty campaign.

Hillary lost for all kinds of reasons, chief among them, I think, is that she didn't think she needed to work for it.

I’m SHOCKED that Mr. ME ME ME I I I ME ME ME MY MY MY speech giver thought 2016 was all about HIM.

Shocked!

Hearing this kind of thing should make everyone HAPPY.

We slapped both of them in the face before kicking them in the nuts in Nov 2016 They thought it was in the bag and then we kicked them while they were down, again and again.

Just think about them crying in the dark, the hours, days, weeks of self doubt and anger.

It is AWESOME to hear about!

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she would not just win, but in a landslide

The only landslide she experienced was when they heaved her into that van like a load of potting soil.

Maybe voters just plain did not like her?

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Originally posted by Bigboreshooter:

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she would not just win, but in a landslide

The only landslide she experienced was when they heaved her into that van like a load of potting soil.

Whoever videoed that and posted it deserve a medal of Freedom.

It's not original, but to paraphrase Oscar Wilde on Dickens:

You would have to have a heart of stone to read of Hillary's (and Obama's) defeat and not laugh.

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Originally posted by egregore:
The "hare and the tortoise" fable is an allegory for her "campaign." She took it for granted she would not just win, but in a landslide, slacked off and didn't go after states with more electoral votes.

I don't think she slacked off so much as she wasn't physically up to the rigors of a presidential campaign. Bernie Sanders made it a long hard road for her just to get the democrat nomination. Not to mention how her underhanded tactics alienated a large block of Bernie voters.

Then came the campaign against Trump who turned out to be a surprisingly strong opponent. Her health began to give out. That video of her collapsing and being thrown in the van was just the tip of the iceberg. IIRC, many days during the home stretch, she only campaigned a couple of hours a day. Often Joe Biden or some other surrogate had to fill in for her. That her husband kept urging her to go to Michigan, go to Wisconsin, etc., only shows how out of touch HE was. It wasn't that she ignored his advice so much as it was that was so ill she simply could not follow it.

<wiping eyes> even Obama blames her. The same woman blaming everyone but herself..

At least Barry admits that Hillary lost the election because she was such a shit, and blames her, not Trump. Perhaps one of the only Democrats...

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Originally posted by chellim1:

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Obama told his family that 'this hurts' and blamed Clinton who 'brought many of her troubles on herself' and ran a 'scripted, soulless campaign'.
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Bill Clinton blamed Hillary for his indiscretions over the years. It's a trait of liberals.

I'd be happy if they all turn on Hillary!

The problem is... they protect her because she would take them all down with her.

Yep that’s the Clinton way get dirt on anyone they can and threaten to use that dirt to sink the ship. Not caring about anyone who gets in their way. Started way back in Arkansas. If you can find an old book called “Boys on the tracks” you will get another glimpse of their dirty dealings.

As far as Obama goes he didn’t like the Clintons never did, but the power they wield holding dirt on everyone was stronger then the hatred.

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Originally posted by chellim1:

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Obama told his family that 'this hurts' and blamed Clinton who 'brought many of her troubles on herself' and ran a 'scripted, soulless campaign'.
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Bill Clinton blamed Hillary for his indiscretions over the years. It's a trait of liberals.

I'd be happy if they all turn on Hillary!

The problem is... they protect her because she would take them all down with her.

By that did he mean that many of them would suffer unfortunate fatal accidents? Seems like that is more likely.

An even better book to read is "Shattered" written by two people who followed inside the Clinton campaign and seen first hand how it was failing almost from the start.

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Originally posted by Bigboreshooter:

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she would not just win, but in a landslide

The only landslide she experienced was when they heaved her into that van like a load of potting soil.

That never gets old!