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I read something the other day I think on on Jalopnik where someone invented a 'Flock' camera with some modified software that only recorded police vehicles

the police visited and weren't amused

but he was right, if the cops aren't doing anything wrong then they have nothing to worry about being recorded everywhere they go - just like us mere 'civilians' right?
I don't believe that story. There is no standard LEO plate. Different agencies use different style plates .


It works the same way the flock cameras don't even need a plate to identify a car. With adequate computing power and database access, they can use all kinds of characteristics for identification.

The system in question actually didn't work very well, identifying only two of the seven police cars that went by. Still, not bad for a couple of hours of work.




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If I recall it was not specifically looking at plates but was looking at vehicle characteristics with custom written software.

With more work I’m sure it would be far more effective.
 
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Our Sheriff's plates are yellow with black star and say "SHERIFF"; doesn't seem overly complicated.
 
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The Flock cameras around here (Verde Valley AZ) will not have contracts renewed, and the cameras have been black bagged by the cities where they are installed.
I’m 100% A-OK with this. I never liked them, and I still am not a fan. Goodbye and good riddance, Flock.



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Our LEO around here have LPR cameras on their units . It takes a picture of the plate / vehicle and is stored for some length of time. From that pic all manner of info than be accessed through several databases. Although , you better have a damn good reason for doing it.
 
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It doesn't matter how much people scream about it . You will never be out of sight of some kind of camera.
 
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But we can and should make it extremely difficult on the camera owners and users to get any meaningful data from them.

They’re an invasive species that need to be destroyed. I know it won’t happen overnight and it’s more than just Flock but we need to start somewhere. They’re just the most visible but hopefully we can collectively destroy their business.

Oh and that guy that did his own camera thing - he is just outside Toronto Ontario. I hope he continues.
 
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Upon further thought I’m thinking that perhaps we do need a surveillance system but a much better target would be to put tracking collars and gps locators on politicians. As long as we the people pay them, we the people should know where they are at all times.
 
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Upon further thought I’m thinking that perhaps we do need a surveillance system but a much better target would be to put tracking collars and gps locators on politicians. As long as we the people pay them, we the people should know where they are at all times.


That's been my argument as well. It's ok for the cops who are enforcing the law, why not the people who are making them?

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It doesn't matter how much people scream about it . You will never be out of sight of some kind of camera.


It's not the cameras themselves that scare me. It's the massive data sharing, facial recognition, electronic signature mining, identity integration, and ability to parse and process all of that in basically realtime via AI that freaks me out. There's a legitimate public safety use for security footage, and even for LPRs like Flock, but all you have to do is look at China to see the potential outcome if it's allowed to progress unchecked. The old standard of "no expectation of privacy in public" isn't going to cut it anymore, and while I'm encouraged to see local communities taking a stand to address it, I really hope we see a Supreme Court ruling at some point to redefine the limits as to what can be recorded and what can be done with it on the backend.


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It doesn't matter how much people scream about it . You will never be out of sight of some kind of camera.


Where can I get footage of me taking my after Thanksgiving dummp last year? I feel like that one was remarkable and I want to share it with the group.


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