So, what is a camera doing in the middle of the woods, miles from any crime areas, no where near any down town areas or high traffic areas...

https://x.com/WallStreetApes/s.../2073766346295247159

The cameras need to go.

One at a time or dozens at a time.

We need to take our privacy back.

And don’t taunt us with the ‘safety’ mantra. That boat sailed a long time ago and sank.

You can bet Fed/State/local governments and corporations will dig in their heels. They have a good thing going and will fight to keep it, Look for new legislation that throws the book at anyone convicted of tampering with them.

But, but, but we need all these data centers for all the pix of that great chinese dinner we had last night.

I remember seeing a show called continuum, the premise is a time traveler cop comes back to present day to right some wrong or such.

But in the future the cops were run by a corporation and there was no privacy bc of technology. Governments no longer ran countries just the business.

The girl had a camera in her eye that she could playback etc…

Sounds like we are on the way

There is hardly a day that goes by that i don't get an email to my county account wanting to demo these MFers.

Ain't happening here in my county as long as I have a say in it.

We need an army of folks just like you in positions that can make a difference, Brad. The largest town in my county installed some under the pretense to catch uninsured motorist. I don't believe they received any pushback at the time they were installed. It's good to see attitudes starting to change as more folks get educated on how the data can and will be misused and abused.

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Originally posted by Appliance Brad:
There is hardly a day that goes by that i don't get an email to my county account wanting to demo these MFers.

Ain't happening here in my county as long as I have a say in it.

^^^^ Thanks Brad. And I don't live in your county.

It has come to my attention that a small number of misguided citizen vigilantes in Houston, Texas; Rutherfordton, North Carolina; and New Bern, North Carolina have been cutting down and damaging Flock Safety license-plate-reading, AI-powered cameras recently installed on public streets throughout their communities without notice. Yesterday, ABC-13 Houston reported, “More Flock cameras cut down in Houston amid some privacy concerns.”

I want to be very clear: this is illegal, dangerous, and wrong. These cameras are vital public safety infrastructure. They cost approximately $3,500 each. They are not watching you. Please. They are merely photographing your vehicle, capturing your license plate, recording the time and location of your travel, storing that information in a database accessible to law enforcement and who knows who else, and retaining it for up to 30 days, at which point it is automatically deleted, unless it isn’t.

But I can understand how there may be some confusion about what these cameras actually do. Captain Ryan Bailey of the Rutherford County Sheriff’s Office reassured everyone that “the camera itself is only capturing the vehicle traveling down the road.” That’s it. Just the vehicle. And the plate. And the time. And the location. And the direction of travel. And the make, model, and color. But definitely not the driver. Unless the driver is visible through the windshield, in which case, also the driver. But that’s it. Probably.

There are also safeguards. Deputies must enter a case number before searching the database. This means the government cannot look up where your car has been without first typing a number into a box, which, as anyone who has ever typed a number into a box knows, is an absolutely impenetrable barrier to abuse.

Folks, I am deeply troubled by this lawless wave of vigilante camera-toppling now spreading across the South like kudzu with a battery-operated hacksaw. In Houston alone, four cameras were cut down in recent days— two near Washington Avenue and Westcott, and two more near Memorial Park. The Houston Police Department has opened an investigation. The perpetrators remain at large, presumably driving vehicles that are no longer being tracked and videotaped.

In Rutherfordton, North Carolina, a vandalized Flock camera generated more than 20,000 comments on social media after police posted a photo of the damage. Some commenters called the vandals criminals. Others called them heroes.

Honestly, people. The comment “Not all heroes wear capes” received a frankly embarrassing number of likes, which tells you everything you need to know about the state of civic discourse in this country.



But the most alarming incident occurred in New Bern, North Carolina, where police are asking the general public to help identify two men who cut down a brand-new Flock camera that had just been installed. The public has responded with tremendous civic enthusiasm, submitting hundreds of tips identifying the suspects as “Batman and Robin” and “the Lone Ranger and Tonto.”

I do not find this funny. I find this very, very serious. Therefore, in the interest of public safety, I am issuing the following advisory:

OFFICIAL PUBLIC SAFETY ADVISORY

Issued by: Concerned Parties Who Definitely Are Not Watching You

DO NOT approach a Flock camera with any cutting implement, power tool, or vehicle of sufficient mass with a bumper guard. For example, do not purchase a Milwaukee M18 FUEL Cordless Angle Grinder, or a DeWalt Brushless Angle Grinder Tool, which cut through metal poles with alarming speed and run on batteries, so there is no cord to trace. We are not saying this because it would be effective. We are saying it because it would be illegal, of course.

DO NOT purchase a cordless reciprocating saw, which is a tool designed for cutting through wood, metal, and other materials quickly and quietly, which fits easily in a backpack, and is available for overnight delivery. This is not a recommendation. This is a warning.

https://www.coffeeandcovid.com...ntes-thursday-july-9

We'll need cameras to surveille the cameras!

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Originally posted by Appliance Brad:
There is hardly a day that goes by that i don't get an email to my county account wanting to demo these MFers.

Ain't happening here in my county as long as I have a say in it.

My apologies Brad. I first read demo as demolish. I was scratching my head thinking WTF for a moment until demonstrate popped into my head.

From The Drive:

How Flock Cameras Wrongly Tracked Me for Days Over ‘Stolen’ Plates and Sent Police After Me

A simple error got magnified by Flock's nationwide surveillance camera network and ended with four cop cars boxing me in.

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from the article:


But finding at least some humor in one of the most ridiculous things I’ve ever experienced in over 15 years of reviewing cars doesn’t negate how completely insane—and avoidable!—this all was. A simple data-entry error, magnified and broadcast nationwide by a growing surveillance network operated through an opaque partnership between a private company and public agencies, led police to identify me as a car thief and set up a sting to take me down. I mean, they even had a drone flying overhead during the “bust.”

(Emphasis added.)

I’m sure I’ll be told I’m oversimplifying or distorting this, but from the paragraph above it appears what we have here is an unaccountable third-party private company trying to do police work, instead of actual police officers doing the police work.

I can’t say anything nice about that.

Further attempt at the surveillance state:


https://x.com/DanielGilr44222/...311311236288881?s=20

We'll need to deploy exploding trash cans.

Keep cutting them down. Cut them down faster than they can put them up.

I guess we are no longer outraged by the left committing criminal acts (theft, criminal mischief, etc) as long as their belief system justifies it, eh?


Wait for it “no, no, we’re not the same. This is different”

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Originally posted by jljones:
I guess we are no longer outraged by the left committing criminal acts (theft, criminal mischief, etc) as long as their belief system justifies it, eh?


Wait for it “no, no, we’re not the same. This is different”

I have been following this thread only to scan it from time to time. I'm not sure what you're saying here. Are you saying these cameras are needed to monitor criminal activity, and therefore their existence, placement and use is justified?

The cameras are a source of investigative leads. And LPRs have been around without fanfare for 10-15 years or so. They don’t actually monitor crime. They are a database of pictures that are searchable.

What I think isn’t justified is committing crimes as Greg pointed out on the post above mine. It’s the exact same thing we rightfully got angry about in the ICE thread.