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half-genius,
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Today is Yom Kippur, and in a Manchester synagogue two are dead [one a security guard] and three others critically injured by by a knife-wielding bomber who was shot dead by Greater Manchester police firearms team who arrived in under seven minutes from the call.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cx2703lnww4t

As he lay there outside the building - he twitched, and got shot again. Bomb squad is on the clear-up as I write this.

More as I get it - it's on the news right now.
 
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Glad that they got the perp. Now an experp.



Serious about crackers.
 
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The Amish again?


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Good thing Brits are armed with spoons, otherwise someone may lose an eye.


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They invited those vermin in and have been pouring gasoline on the fire. It's only a matter of time. And lest anyone think that I'm singling out GB, we've been doing the same thing here (and all across the western world for that matter). Just look at MI, MN, and TX (where an imam refused to allow access to a Christian pastor at an airport chapel).

All muslim immigration to this country must stop.


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Originally posted by jcsabolt2:
Good thing Brits are armed with spoons, otherwise someone may lose an eye.


Don't get me wrong, I see your point, but I'm impressed by how fast the SWAT team got there, and put that **cker on the ground. I like even more that when he twitched they shot him again.
 
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^^^. There's a video out there. It appears he did more than twitch. Apparently he was wearing a bomb, sat up and moved to detonate it. Bang. Dead.


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^^^. There's a video out there. It appears he did more than twitch. Apparently he was wearing a bomb, sat up and moved to detonate it. Bang. Dead.


This news clip shows 'the deceased', uh, being deceased.

https://news.sky.com/story/sta...-manchester-13442669

Guess our SWAT teams need to be taught that in cases like this a couple in the head ought to be the default shots.

Hard to do much when your head above the neck looks like a stomped-on mango.
 
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Picture went black just as they shot. I didn't know camera phones were made by Lucas?


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Guess our SWAT teams need to be taught that in cases like this a couple in the head ought to be the default shots.


That's what I was taught for dealing with a bomber, even as a non-SWAT officer.

Shoot for the T-box (facing) or the ear (side profile) in order to put them down instantly by severing the brain stem/spinal column, inducing flaccid paralysis and removing their ability to react and detonate.

T-Box:
 
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Picture went black just as they shot. I didn't know camera phones were made by Lucas?


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Originally posted by tacfoley:
Guess our SWAT teams need to be taught that in cases like this a couple in the head ought to be the default shots.


That's what I was taught for dealing with a bomber, even as a non-SWAT officer.

Shoot for the T-box (facing) or the ear (side profile) in order to put them down instantly by severing the brain stem/spinal column, inducing flaccid paralysis and removing their ability to react and detonate.

T-Box:


You obviously went to the same 'school' as I did.
 
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Originally posted by jcsabolt2:
Good thing Brits are armed with spoons, otherwise someone may lose an eye.


Don't get me wrong, I see your point, but I'm impressed by how fast the SWAT team got there, and put that **cker on the ground. I like even more that when he twitched they shot him again.


Some armed security onsite might have been a bit quicker but I guess it isn't allowed there unless they're protecting Royalty.


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I wonder if UK gets it now..... Or let's still make gaza (filled w/ people who will commit violence like this) a recognized state. If this can happen in the UK, IN THE UK, how much worse could it be if the UK idiots continued to enable hamas in gaza? If only there was an example in recent history. Oh wait....




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I wonder if UK gets it now.....


Nope, the problem is going to be the knife. They've been working to stop "knife crime" for, what, 20 years now?
 
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Some armed security onsite might have been a bit quicker but I guess it isn't allowed there unless they're protecting Royalty.


Years ago I had a conversation with a British friend of my brother, and after talking cars and other guy-stuff I criticized the disarmed British police. He said, if they needed guns they kept some at the police station that they could access if necessary. In my best Texas drawl, I said, "That's the slowest draw I ever heerd of." He laughed, and my point was made.

Now, at least here in the USA, and for the moment unless we remain vigilant, we argue that the armed citizen is the best defense.

RogueJSK, that small box has always been my default setting, but any head shot should be disorienting enough to allow a follow-up to end the threat, IMO.


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Too much, Too many, Too often.

My thoughts and prayers to the survivors and the victims families.


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Originally posted by jcsabolt2:
Good thing Brits are armed with spoons, otherwise someone may lose an eye.


Don't get me wrong, I see your point, but I'm impressed by how fast the SWAT team got there, and put that **cker on the ground. I like even more that when he twitched they shot him again.


Some armed security onsite might have been a bit quicker but I guess it isn't allowed there unless they're protecting Royalty.


And every visiting high roller, like your president.

Seven minutes from call to kill is pretty good in my book. He seems to have been stopped in mid-rant, if that's what he was doing.
 
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The sad truth is, when you disarm the good guys and open the doors wide to people who despise your culture, this is the result.
 
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