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"Do Not Panic Buy": Officials Urge Calm As LA Fire Crisis Disrupts Main Fuel Pipeline To Las Vegas https://www.zerohedge.com/comm...l-pipeline-las-vegas "In an abundance of caution, due to the fires in California, the main pipeline that brings gasoline and other fuels to the Las Vegas Valley looks to face temporary disruptions in service," the City of Las Vegas announced on X late Thursday. The pipeline shutdown involves Kinder Morgan's SFPP West and 566-mile CalNev pipeline system, which ships gasoline, diesel, and jet fuel from Los Angeles to Las Vegas. https://x.com/JspecTheHost/status/1877570550433812567 Clark County announced Thursday night that fuel from the pipeline will start flowing to Vegas "in the next 12-24 hours," adding, "The public is encouraged to not panic buy at the pump." More at link _________________________ "Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it." Mark Twain | |||
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At the dentist I did some mental "napkin math" on this fire. About 35,000 acres burned thus far. To give some perspective, Mach 9-10, 1945 we burned 16.1 square miles of Tokyo in one night. LA has seen nearly 55 square miles burn, thus far, with that number going up since only one fire is contained and the big one, the Palisades fire at last check was not even 10% contained. LAFD reports >10,000 structures are total losses. That may not seem like a big number, these structures are extraordinarily expensive due to the desirable location. If you assume each structure has an average value of $1M, that is a $10B loss on the buildings alone. Double that to clear the wreckage. Double that total (i.e., buildings and site clearance) to get to the cost of repairing the infrastructure (e.g., an entire electric grid in the affected areas) which will take months and months. Then double that total for the cost of rebuilding. That totals $120B. Where is that sum coming from? Cash strapped California? Ha. And that doesn't consider the economic loss, the increased homelessness, the loss of personal property, the response costs, etc. California is going to be economically sodomized by this event, and people aren't even talking about this impact. Nice is overrated "It's every freedom-loving individual's duty to lie to the government." Airsoftguy, June 29, 2018 | |||
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His house is not near the fires. _________________________________________________________________________ “A man’s treatment of a dog is no indication of the man’s nature, but his treatment of a cat is. It is the crucial test. None but the humane treat a cat well.” -- Mark Twain, 1902 | |||
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A CL415 hit a goddamn drone. Now that plane is grounded. More dumbasses with "drones" making things difficult. I hope it was a VERY expensive one, now stuck in a tree and they can watch the flames burn it to a plastic pool of goo.  He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. | |||
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Metal or cement roofs, metal or cement siding for wood framed buildings, cast concrete or CMU construction where feasible. Fire breaks and defensible spaces around homes and business. Water for fighting fires, lakes and reservoirs that air assets can use to fight fires as well as stocks of chemical retardant to drop. Equipment to cut fire lines plus prescribed burns plus fuel mitigation during off season. If you live in fire prone areas these are the normal precautions, and even with them still sometimes structures are lost. In a place where many if not all of these things are ignored how can it be a surprise when things go poorly? | |||
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^^^ In addition to all of that, if I lived in one of those areas I would want an underground cistern, full of water which I could use. A garden hose isn't going to stop a wind blown inferno, but short of that it would help. "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." -- Justice Janice Rogers Brown "The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth." -rduckwor | |||
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^^^ Yep, even better. With a pump that could be used the same way. "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." -- Justice Janice Rogers Brown "The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth." -rduckwor | |||
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The homes along the ridge lines and canyon areas where many of the Palisades and Sunset fires are, resemble a giant Jenga puzzle, emergency considerations given the nature of the region wasn't even considered when these places were built around mid-century. Homes are packed in, single entrance/exit cul-de-sacs, and traffic congestion is a normal part of daily life. Franklin, Los Feliz, Hollywood, Sunset blvd is regularly packed with lots of vehicle traffic, now create an emergency and as we've seen all hell breaks loose and nobody is getting out. Interesting we've not seen..yet, any LA City Council members getting in-front of the news; particularly those members whose areas are affected. | |||
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If anyone is planning on any major renovation soon, I would act sooner than later because once they start rebuilding, you know all these building materials are going to skyrocket in price as everything gets diverted there. | |||
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Had a feeling this one was going to get downgraded if not dismissed. Any LEO/lawyers can chime-in on how citizen arrest situations get handled? Homeless man seen lighting fires who was zip-tied by LA residents not yet charged with arson: police
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It will vary from state to state, but an arrest is an arrest. It's handled the same way it's handled when an officer arrests somebody. The only typical glaring difference is that LEOs are permitted the opportunity to be incorrect with little risk of personal liability. If you as a citizen make a bad arrest, then you could face criminal or civil action(s).
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I hope when Newsom comes crawling to DC on his hands and knees begging for a Federal handout, Trump gives him the middle finger. If California were a nation it would rank in terms of nominal GDP as the world's fourth largest economy, behind Germany and ahead of Japan. Fix it yourself, asshole. _________________________________________________________________________ “A man’s treatment of a dog is no indication of the man’s nature, but his treatment of a cat is. It is the crucial test. None but the humane treat a cat well.” -- Mark Twain, 1902 | |||
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According to this article, the CL415 costs 37mil Canadian per unit. https://winair.ca/blog/everyth...now-canadair-cl-415/ This one from 2023 says commiefornia taxes/spends 31bil a year on immigrants. https://www.prnewswire.com/new...-year-301766122.html I'm from east Texas,and even I can do this math. A 1/30 expenditure of that tax money on these fire fighting aircraft would = quite a fleet of them. | |||
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Biden said the .gov is going to pay for it . | |||
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In 10 days he won't have anything to say about it at all... "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." -- Justice Janice Rogers Brown "The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth." -rduckwor | |||
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