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Yeah, we NEED to rely on the Police to protect us.
No need for anyone to own guns either.
Also call 911 when your order at McDonalds is wrong.

Pretty soon a teeny weeny text is turned into a full fledged assault.

I can imagine the Po Po rolling his eyes after leaving this crime scene.

smschultz, .................. uh, never mind.

One thing is for sure. If you ever have to use force against someone,that Police report might be worth it's weight in gold.

If you are threatened and you don't file a report you might regret it.

Wall of word warning...

justjoe asked for advice. He acted as he felt he needed to in this situation. " His situation.

All MMQB with 10 inch peckers can infer his pussification to beat the band.

But I will not insult him, nor his choice.

Several months ago, my daughter asked me to come dig a grave for several of her chicken flock that died off due to a fast spreading, fatal disease, so I went to help her.

While digging, I removed my shirt as it was warm, (revealing my still holstered P245) and the next door neighbor accompanied by his wife, came to the fence and asked me how it was going and what had happened. (I was about 20 feet from the fence digging).

A bit of conversation about things, and then he left, a few minutes later he came back out, and his attitude had changed and he became belligerent, (not going through the entire narrative...) fast forward to the part where he was telling me he did not want me burying the chickens where I was, and I told him it was my property (I own and pay for this property where my daughter and her mother live), and I was planting the dead chickens right here in this hole in the ground and I really did not GAF if he liked it or not...

Then he said; "I'll take that thing on your hip and shove it up your ass and pull the trigger!"

(Yeah, he really said that.)

I said, "No, you won't, because you don't have the balls to do it. And I really don't have time to talk about this anymore, as I have to finish with this, and you really should just go inside and leave me alone.)

He kept on about his right to stand there and say whatever he wanted, so I shut him out an finished digging and planting dead chickens.


During that time, he engaged my daughter and they continued to talk, but I had tuned him out. I do know at one time he asked me to let things be and stuck his hand out, and I said, "No, I certainly will not shake your hand, you spoke your piece and I'll have nothing to do with you."

A minute or two later he went inside and I finished and left.


My daughter called about an hour later and said a Deputy came to the house to investigate the "threat" and asked her what happened. She told him what happened, gave him my cell number and address, and then the SD told her what the report was.

SD said the neighbor or and his wife reported I pulled my gun and threatened to shoot them both.

Since she stated the story as it actually occurred, before the SD told her what they stated, he told her, that "her side" sounded reasonable and factual, and they "they sounded like they were "embellishing a bit", and thanked her and left.

I never got a call. (I have a good and long relationship with the Sheriff and Deputies...)

Now, if I did not have such a relationship, I would have made a call to make a report.

If a person is credible, and responsible, it likely will come across to someone investigating, as typically, they have "spidy sense" from training and or experience. Someone stirring up a pot of shit, will often get some stink on them and it does not take a lot of discernment to smell it.

In the case of justjoe, I think the guy likely has made such threats before and likely is "known" for his character.

And with the ever increasing attacks from other people and no regard to credibility, character or integrity, one should consider such things in an encounter, and if you think maybe making a report might be in your best interests, then do so.

We read stories everyday about shit gone bad, how many times have we read someone's anecdote here and not realized that because of a choice someone made, it was a story that never went any further?

Maybe, maybe not.



Of course the next guy to post, says it with far fewer words...

Call the Cops and explain to them, if he tries anything stupid, Put him down.

There are many incidents of people being robbed or assaulted by former hired help. Caution us prudent.

I just surfed through the thread, and though I didn't make this a poll, it comes out to 26 call the police, and 4 don't call the police. I think several more were suggesting that calling the police was correct, but I didn't count them.

And if I count the officer who showed up-- whose opinion is relevant here-- it's 27 to call the police. So, the hive wisdom here is pretty clear.

I opened the thread in "real time." I had just gotten the "you are getting visitors" text. And I was not sure what to do because to me it was clearly a threat-- no question-- but it was cloaked. ("Visitors! Gosh, I don't have any pie!")

Anyway-- thanks, guys, for your responses. I'm glad I got a police report filed. It's clear to me that it was the right thing to do. I think this event is over, but if it is not, as someone said, that report will be worth its weight in gold.

but your house is still fukkin' dirty!!!

Ignore the nay-sayers. You did the right thing. I grew up in a fully LEO household. I’ve worked with shitbag meth addicts. They don’t give a detailed text message about all the ways they can and will fuck with your well-being, as some of the Joe Fridays in this thread seem to surmise.

I guess some of you have never been threatened by crazy shitbags, and I applaud your luck. If you don’t read that text as a threat, then just step out on the balcony with the shotgun and fire two blasts in the air....

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Originally posted by justjoe:
And if I count the officer who showed up-- whose opinion is relevant here-- it's 27 to call the police. So, the hive wisdom here is pretty clear.

To be honest, have you ever heard a cop say, "This is bullshit. You are wasting my time. Why did you even call us?" Probably not. They are not going to say that. They are going to stay PC, give you the standard bullshit line, "Call us if you need us. Can never be too careful. You did the right thing reporting this." And then as he left, his eye's rolled into the back of his head and he and his buddies made fun of you over lunch. Sorry. It happens.

200 years ago, did you call the police when the farrier put aluminum tires on your horse, when you requested steel, and you had a disagreement about payment, and perhaps a few threats were thrown around? Or did you act like an adult, perhaps use some adult like deescalation tactics, and handle your disagreements like adults, without calling the govt baby sitters?

I have pressure washed for money, and policed neighborhoods for money, so I have a little insight into perhaps how the worker felt, how the cop felt, and how the homeowner felt.

Me personally, no way, no how, am I pressure washing on a 50 degree day. Maybe that's the norm where you live, but for me, that's not happening. Your hands will be frozen solid in ten minutes flat. A miserable day for sure.

OP didn't do anything wrong calling the police, but perhaps his frustration level and words chosen and directed at Mr. Pressure washer weren't appropriate or created hostilities. Maybe. Maybe not. Or maybe Mr Pressure washer is just a meth addict asshole (likely).

No real need for a police report in this case. Nothing says that you cant save your text messages and communication for later, if need be. If Mr. Pressure washer shows up with a hit squad, your previous communication can be shared with the cops then as they bag the bodies off the front lawn.

Mr Bubba..in a case such as this, a police report is much like a gun, better to have it and not need it, than need it and not have it. if the unfortunate time comes where the OP has to use deadly force, or even less than lethal, a report on hand will go a long, long way in the eyes of LE and the DA. in MY case, the detective, in no uncertain terms stated that if the firebugs returned and attempted to set my house on fire next time..im covered if force needs to be applied. OP definitely did the right thing.

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Originally posted by wcb6092:
One thing is for sure. If you ever have to use force against someone,that Police report might be worth it's weight in gold.
If you are threatened and you don't file a report you might regret it.

THIS.
It's just a report. I don't give a shit if the cop laughed till he cried with his mucho macho muchacho pals, he still wrote the freaking report. Now it's on record as it should be.

As a cop, I was threatened regularly. Daily, sometimes. I based the validity on what I knew about the person making the threat. Most were drunk and shooting off their mouth. The threats I was most aware of and concerning to me were the ones coming known violent persons or from people who I really knew nothing about. In the OPs post, it was evident to me that he did not know a lot about this contractor and therefore reporting it to the cops was the right course of action.
With a few exceptions, most of those who I jailed for long terms are now out. Several of them said they would come see me after they were released. Does this concern me or cause me to live in fear? Nope. But I don't discount the threat either. Its easy enough to find me, even though I am far off my beat now. I stay as aware as I can be and I carry, everywhere and every day.
I would never take an overt, valid threat lightly. The difficulty lies in judging if the threat is in fact valid. There are those will follow up on a threat.

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I don't give a shit if the cop laughed till he cried with his mucho macho muchacho pals

I was actually there with the actual cop, and actually spoke with him. Bubba was a thousand miles away, deep in the forests of his own mind, where farriers put aluminum tires on horses, and cops become hysterical over reported threats....