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I have not bought a vehicle for me in 30 years. I'd like to try new if possible. Used choice is a Ford Edge. New choice would be a RAV4. What strategies do you employ to make this process easy on you?


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Do it online.
 
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I have noticed online prices and in some cases thousands of dollars less. How much can I expect to negotiate off the MSRP?


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While I've never tried it myself, I suspect the best strategy to make it easy would be to pay whatever they are asking for the vehicle.
 
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The strategy is to educate yourself on the vehicle you desire.
The more you know, the better off you are.
Know what features, cosmetics aka colors & interiors and technical (engine) features are desired.
THEN compare prices and reviews to get a feel but do not over value reviews as many are misleading, false or not important.
THEN evaluate the company selling > dealer, online, individual.
THEN BUY and ENJOY. Smile
 
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I have noticed online prices and in some cases thousands of dollars less. How much can I expect to negotiate off the MSRP?


Will vary by vehicle and the market.
Online shopping will give you a guide.
 
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I have noticed online prices and in some cases thousands of dollars less. How much can I expect to negotiate off the MSRP?

Dealerships have an online salesperson. Just visit the website of Toyota dealerships in your area and browse their inventory. A salesperson will pop up. Don't pay too much attention to discounts off list price; just the bottom line. Use Edmunds or similar to see what others in your area have paid for the same RAV4. And for God's sake, use a burner phone!
 
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Do your homework on what a fair price is and then write it on your business card or piece of paper and hand it to the salesman after the test drive. Say call me if you can match this out the door price and WALK.

Their goal is to get you in an office where they are skilled at breaking you down and tiring you out. They do this thousands of time a year and most people do it once every 5 or ten years. Who do you think will win. Again their goal is to get you inside.

That way you avoid all the aggravation, guilty feelings that they are good at laying on you and you don’t waste your entire day.
 
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My wife and I developed a car buying strategy more than 20 years ago.

If the salesperson is a male, she deals with him. If a female I do the dealing.

Amazing how that works. The male sales agent always kept trying get me to do the dealing, very reluctant to get pushy with me sitting there.

If the salesperson was female she dealt with me.

Wife and I both believe that system worked. It worked again about 6 months ago when my wife needed a replacement car. We got a very sweet deal on her new Hyundai.


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I have not bought a vehicle for me in 30 years. I'd like to try new if possible. Used choice is a Ford Edge. New choice would be a RAV4. What strategies do you employ to make this process easy on you?


Price off of sticker depends on 3 things: rebates, invoice price with options, and how badly they want/need to sell that vehicle (high demand cars (new models etc.) are going to sell for closer to invoice than old models).

Go to Edmunds.com and look at the specific vehicle you're interested in. Look at the rebates. look at the invoice amount with the options you want and discount the rebates off of it, and very close to that price is what you want to pay.......
 
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practice

go into a dealership that you are unlikely to buy from, research a car and go in and try to cut a deal, but never sign. see how they push you, how long to get the manager to seal the deal. you also push them on the value of your trade, you will want this at dealer #2

research what you actually want to buy every way come sunday. Cars.com, autotrader, kbb,

price certified used of the same vehicle, this helps you judge where the value goes in a short time.

never go to a dealership hungry
never go impatient
always have plenty of time

remember if they close at 9 the sales guy has until 930 to hold the place open, so if you show up at 6 you aren't getting the best deal done for 3-3.5 hours later. what ever the deal is a 730-8, it can still get better.

this is the don't go hungry part.

if it were me, I would be hawking every source online to find the deal now, go in on Friday 10/30 around 3pm. Drive it pet it, let them hawk over your car and try to work a deal, then leave promptly at about 7pm.

then the phone will blow up around 8pm begging you to come back tomorrow 10/31 a Saturday.

make them hold the car then show up Saturday early am. If they change the deal walk out right away.

have lunch at a local restaurant then call back to get the deal worked out that afternoon as you had planned.


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Autotrader(dot)com.

You will get a lot more off MSRP on a Ford than a Toyota.

It seems like car sales have been brisk lately, so you might not get much off MSRP at this time.


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Originally posted by Timdogg6:
practice

go into a dealership that you are unlikely to buy from, research a car and go in and try to cut a deal, but never sign. see how they push you, how long to get the manager to seal the deal. you also push them on the value of your trade, you will want this at dealer #2

research what you actually want to buy every way come sunday. Cars.com, autotrader, kbb,

price certified used of the same vehicle, this helps you judge where the value goes in a short time.

never go to a dealership hungry
never go impatient
always have plenty of time

remember if they close at 9 the sales guy has until 930 to hold the place open, so if you show up at 6 you aren't getting the best deal done for 3-3.5 hours later. what ever the deal is a 730-8, it can still get better.

this is the don't go hungry part.

if it were me, I would be hawking every source online to find the deal now, go in on Friday 10/30 around 3pm. Drive it pet it, let them hawk over your car and try to work a deal, then leave promptly at about 7pm.

then the phone will blow up around 8pm begging you to come back tomorrow 10/31 a Saturday.

make them hold the car then show up Saturday early am. If they change the deal walk out right away.

have lunch at a local restaurant then call back to get the deal worked out that afternoon as you had planned.


Respectfully, that’s terrible car buying advice. No need for all of those games. Wasting all of that time, leaving on purpose, asking to hold a car for you, assuming they need to hit a goal at the end of the month, etc.


Figure out what you want, find a couple dealers within a distance you are willing to travel and get their out the door number, including taxes, fees, rebates, trade-in, discount and if there are any financing concerns that would change the price. Everything is advertised now and dealers know people shop online so they have to be competitive if they want to sell.
 
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check the online inventories for a vehicle you are interested in.
Call or email the "internet" guy at several dealerships. Tell him you want their best "Costco/internet" price. that should get you in the ballpark.
 
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Do your homework, know what you are willing to pay.

Some dealerships give better discounts than others.

Shop at the end of the month and better at the end of the month at the end of the quarter.

If the dealership needs to move a few more cars to make their numbers they can be much more willing to deal.
 
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Do not discuss financing until after the deal is set. Negotiate off all the bogus fees. And most importantly, never tell them you are a cash buyer until after you’ve got the price set.



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practice

go into a dealership that you are unlikely to buy from, research a car and go in and try to cut a deal, but never sign. see how they push you, how long to get the manager to seal the deal. you also push them on the value of your trade, you will want this at dealer #2

research what you actually want to buy every way come sunday. Cars.com, autotrader, kbb,

price certified used of the same vehicle, this helps you judge where the value goes in a short time.

never go to a dealership hungry
never go impatient
always have plenty of time

remember if they close at 9 the sales guy has until 930 to hold the place open, so if you show up at 6 you aren't getting the best deal done for 3-3.5 hours later. what ever the deal is a 730-8, it can still get better.

this is the don't go hungry part.

if it were me, I would be hawking every source online to find the deal now, go in on Friday 10/30 around 3pm. Drive it pet it, let them hawk over your car and try to work a deal, then leave promptly at about 7pm.

then the phone will blow up around 8pm begging you to come back tomorrow 10/31 a Saturday.

make them hold the car then show up Saturday early am. If they change the deal walk out right away.

have lunch at a local restaurant then call back to get the deal worked out that afternoon as you had planned.


Quite possibly the worst advice I’ve ever seen on this forum.

It’s 2020, email every dealer within a driving distance you are comfortable with, ask for their absolute best price out the door (including all taxes/fees/etc).

You should get 80% of them to give you a price. The lowest quotes should be pretty close to max discount, but you can always try to negotiate a bit more via email.

Once you are ready, agree to the quote and go in, decline everything in finance and drive off.
 
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Originally posted by Timdogg6:
practice

go into a dealership that you are unlikely to buy from, research a car and go in and try to cut a deal, but never sign. see how they push you, how long to get the manager to seal the deal. you also push them on the value of your trade, you will want this at dealer #2

research what you actually want to buy every way come sunday. Cars.com, autotrader, kbb,

price certified used of the same vehicle, this helps you judge where the value goes in a short time.

never go to a dealership hungry
never go impatient
always have plenty of time

remember if they close at 9 the sales guy has until 930 to hold the place open, so if you show up at 6 you aren't getting the best deal done for 3-3.5 hours later. what ever the deal is a 730-8, it can still get better.

this is the don't go hungry part.

if it were me, I would be hawking every source online to find the deal now, go in on Friday 10/30 around 3pm. Drive it pet it, let them hawk over your car and try to work a deal, then leave promptly at about 7pm.

then the phone will blow up around 8pm begging you to come back tomorrow 10/31 a Saturday.

make them hold the car then show up Saturday early am. If they change the deal walk out right away.

have lunch at a local restaurant then call back to get the deal worked out that afternoon as you had planned.


Respectfully, that’s terrible car buying advice. No need for all of those games. Wasting all of that time, leaving on purpose, asking to hold a car for you, assuming they need to hit a goal at the end of the month, etc.


Figure out what you want, find a couple dealers within a distance you are willing to travel and get their out the door number, including taxes, fees, rebates, trade-in, discount and if there are any financing concerns that would change the price. Everything is advertised now and dealers know people shop online so they have to be competitive if they want to sell.


THIS- be honest right up front, tell them you're not going to waste their time, and if they waste your time, you're leaving.......nail down exactly what vehicle and combination you want, email several dealers (after checking their inventory and picking the stock number of what you want) and you can do the entire deal on the internet from your home. I've gotten excellent deals on the last 2 new vehicles I purchased (prior to my current one which I got Plan D on). Discussing financing is important because there are 3 different sets of rebates and are based on lease, straight cash deal (or if you have financing elsewhere), and financing through the manufacturer/dealer.......so they can't give you a realistic price without knowing how you're buying due to the rebates. It doesn't really matter to them which way you go.......
 
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I keep my shopping online (at least initially). Find the exact model and packages you want, do a search on autotrader.com, cars.com, or similar, and find all the ones you like. Email and tell them you're interested and that you want the best price they will give you, that you're shopping them against others online. Then compare what you get.

My experience is that my process is less hassle and stress than the in-person stuff, and you still get a great deal. I've been willing to travel to get said deals, but saving 3-4K makes a 10 hour round trip buy worth it. Heck, I once flew to Vegas to pick up my newly purchased (used) F150 and drove it back to the Memphis area. Cool


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