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Wonder if this will split the vote of the Democrats?

It will split the vote in both parties. The Democratic Party has worked hard to freeze him out of their party's nomination, forcing him to go independent. He is a major threat to FJB getting nominated if he were allowed to compete within the Democratic Party.

If the Dems were smart, they'd do everything possible to have him as their candidate. But imho the swamp behind the scenes want a puppet not someone who thinks for himself like RFK does.

How does it shake out if Trump and Biden are their parties' nominees? Who gets more votes peeled away, Trump or Biden? I'm really not sure on that one.

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Originally posted by Fly-Sig:
It will split the vote in both parties


How does it shake out if Trump and Biden are their parties' nominees? Who gets more votes peeled away, Trump or Biden? I'm really not sure on that one.

Agree all-around. People who are more left who voted for Trump purely as the anti-establishment pick may be more inclined to vote for Kennedy. The man is not a progressive leftist, so he's a better choice for many classical liberals who aren't totally on board with the current Dem agenda. I see him drawing votes from both candidates. Agreed again that it's impossible to guess which candidate has more to lose from this. The polling and debates going forward will be real interesting to say the least. Can you imagine Trump, Biden, and RFK on stage together for a debate? Joe gets left in the dust any way I picture it.

If the more moderate Democrats are smart, they'll do anything they can to run a more credible candidate than Biden.
They need that person to be one who can get the older school Democrat vote and the radicals would have no choice but to go along or elect a Republican.
I don't really see RFK Jr. as a credible candidate and able enough to actually run things as Commander in Chief. Yes, he says a few things I like, especially compared to the other Democrat candidates, and some Republicans might vote for him for the same reason. Not me for sure.
I really think for now those behind the scenes are waiting for nature to take it's course (He steps aside somehow) or until they have no other choice.

he could put Trump back in the whitehouse

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Would he peel off more likely Biden voters or Trump voters?

I think Dems have better all-around "party discipline" when it comes to bringing out the vote for their nominee. The low-info or perpetual recipient crowd have basically one job.

Don't forget about Dr. Cornel West, who has said he is going to run as an independent.

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Originally posted by DennisM:
Would he peel off more likely Biden voters or Trump voters?

Just guessing, but I don't see him pulling away Maga or never Trumpers

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Originally posted by DennisM:
Would he peel off more likely Biden voters or Trump voters?

Without a doubt, Kennedy would take far more votes from Biden; from Trump would be negligible. Similar to Ross Perot peeling away votes from Bush rather than Clinton.

RFK Jr. is an interesting candidate to political junkies, but he is still a Democrat commie in most ways. Plus to those Democrats old enough to remember, "Kennedy" is still a magical name. Plus, Trump is STILL the main attraction in American politics today.

Dunno if there's any truth to it, but I saw an article on Breitbart indicating Sen. Cruz believes a last minute Dem candidate could be the former first lady Michelle......

If true that might change the dynamics of this election somewhat. Food for thought is all.

I think there’s already an RFK thread…
But yeah.

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Without a doubt, Kennedy would take far more votes from Biden; from Trump would be negligible.

I dunno, there's a lot of people who feel the game is fixed and Trump can't win. (and even if he did manage it somehow they'd find a way to get him out) That makes Kennedy a more palatable option for them than Joe.

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Originally posted by parabellum:
Don't forget about Dr. Cornel West, who has said he is going to run as an independent.

Thought he was Green Party?

Whatever debate he makes it to, he'll get exposed to the naive masses of what an extremist he is.

He’ll be Trumps veep. Trump gets the luster of the Kennedy name. Unity ticket.

It will be either RFK, Jr. or Kristi Noem as Trump's VP candidate. He already ruled out the seven dwarfs.

^^^ There’s a good chance that’s right. If so I’d rather have RFK Jr.

The unfortunate thing about Kennedy is his voice. I find it difficult and uncomfortable to listen to him and I know I am far from alone and it may seem petty, but it does matter.

On the other hand, if Kennedy were Donald Trump's VP choice, Trump is such a powerhouse candidate, no one who intends to vote for him would be swayed by any reasonable VP choice. On top of that, Kennedy's presence on the Trump ticket would serve to draw in a substantial number of voters- more so, I think, than any other choice Donald Trump might make.

If the affair with Lewandowski is real, Noem is toast. Even if it isn't, she'd be a lousy choice as she's not a national level candidate. Kari Lake would be a FAR better choice than Noem if he goes with a woman...which I hope he won't.

And teaming up with a lifelong Democrat (and part-time nutjob) Kennedy, would be foolish.

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Kennedy's presence on the Trump ticket would serve to draw in a substantial number of voters- more so, I think, than any other choice Donald Trump might make.

See… that’s the thing.
Trumps VP selection doesn’t have to appeal to us who are already on the Trump train. The idea is to expand the appeal of the ticket.

Byron Donalds may not have the name recognition yet but he impresses me and he is maga and black. How many voters will a good black candidate bring?

But the main thing is to get Trump elected and RFK may be the uniter that can do it. Trump's base is broken glass so the vp with the longest coattails is who we need.