The more I have listened to RFK the more I have been impressed and like him.

He's principle-based and has common sense, which is why the Democrats hate him.

Acting like the idiots in the Republican debate the other night is way beneath him (which is a good thing).

He'd be an awesome VP (or POTUS for that matter).

Do you realize that RFK Jr has said, recently, that he would sign gun ban legislation?

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Originally posted by KevH:
He'd be an awesome VP (or POTUS for that matter).

Yeah……no.

A large number of voters don't want Trump or Biden. When it comes to actual voting they'll vote against the candidate who they dislike the most. RFK will peel off some voters as a protest vote. Back in the one party Soviet Union they mutilated the ballot. The upcoming presidential election will be a test unlike any we have seen before.

Sundance's take: This is an op.

Robert Kennedy Jr. to Run as Independent in 2024 Election

Many people are talking about this today; it is an interesting dynamic.

According to Mediaite with the exclusive first story, Robert Kennedy Jr. will announce his transition from a candidate on the Democrat ticket to a candidate on the Independent ticket for the 2024 presidential contest. RFK Jr. will make the announcement on October 9th, in Pennsylvania.

(Via Mediaite) 2024 presidential candidate Robert F. Kennedy Jr. plans to announce he will run as an independent on October 9 in Pennsylvania, Mediaite has learned.

Kennedy’s campaign machine is now planning “attack ads” against the Democratic National Committee in order to “pave the way” for his announcement in Philadelphia about running as an independent, according to a text reviewed by Mediaite.

“Bobby feels that the DNC is changing the rules to exclude his candidacy so an independent run is the only way to go,” a Kennedy campaign insider told Mediaite. (more)

My thoughts are the same today as they were when we first discussed RFK Jr.

None of the Lightbringer’s supporters/voters and ballot harvesters are going to support RFK Jr. None of the leftists who follow social media or traditional media influence operations, the sheeple masses, are going to vote for RFK Jr. None of the party Democrats are going to vote for RFK Jr. None of the Gavin Newsom supporters are going to support RFK Jr.

So, who will vote for RFK Jr?

ANSWER: Two core groups.

#1) Ron DeSantis supporters. When RdS drops out, his coalition of support, the Never Trump Republicans, will flow to RFK Jr.

#2) Approximately one-third of unregistered, unaffiliated or what we would call “independent” voters. About a third of them.

Independents will fracture into three subsets. Approximately 1/3 supporting Gavin Newsom. Approximately 1/3 supporting Donald Trump. Approximately 1/3 supporting Robert Kennedy Jr.

With DeSantis Republicans and one-third of independent voters, that’s the RFK Jr. coalition.

As I said from the outset, RFK Jr. is the intelligence community insurance policy against the threat of Donald Trump.

RFK Jr. running as an independent will tilt the election to Gavin Newsom.

Stop thinking about RFK Jr. taking votes from Biden. Unfortunately, this will be the narrative; this will be what is polled. However, Joe Biden will not be the DNC nominee.

The correct question is, what does RFK Jr. running as an independent do to the 2024 contest when it is Gavin Newsom -vs- Donald Trump?

In that scenario, the motives and intentions of RFK Jr. taking votes from Biden, because Joe Biden is a blithering idiot, disappears. Democrats will happily stick with Newsom…. which is exactly why his visibility is everywhere right now. It’s an op.

RFK Jr. running as an independent, is part of that op.

Reset your reference point to the baseline where the intelligence operatives do not want you to be. When someone starts asking the question about RFK Jr. taking votes from Biden, stop them immediately. Joe Biden will not be the nominee. With Gavin Newsom as the DNC candidate coming out of Chicago, what does RFK Jr. do to THAT contest with Trump? That’s the question.

You all know the answer.

This is an op.



There is no more beautifully run intelligence operation than when the target of the intelligence operation represents the interests of the intelligence operation. The irony of a Kennedy is just a cherry on the operational cake.

https://theconservativetreehou...lection/#more-251376

I don't see this as some sort of 5D chess move. Kennedy has been a lifelong Democrat party wonk, and will continue to be. Even if he disagrees with the direction of certain aspects of the party, he's still going to be closely aligned with them. He'll ultimately do what the party wants him to do, even if that means running as an independent to split certain voting segments.

^^^ Yeah, I don't think he is controlled by intel sources or anything like that. He truly wants to run for President and I agree with this:

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“Bobby feels that the DNC is changing the rules to exclude his candidacy so an independent run is the only way to go,” a Kennedy campaign insider told Mediaite. (more)

The DNC isn't giving him a chance at the Dem. nomination.

BTW/ This was my first time using the SF twit-Bedder. Thanks, HRK.

https://codejanitor.azurewebsi...beds/twitbedder.html

He won't play the puppet they want.

RFK Jr isn't apart of the Clinton-machine or the Obama-wave therefore his clout and influence around the Establishment is severely limited; he'll basically be dealing with in-party opposition the way, Trump dealt with GOP Never-Trumpers, hamstringing him every step of the way. A debate with him and Newsome will be quite interesting...appearance-wise they're the opposite of what the New Left Democrats are seeking in their candidates. Given that the Dems control more levers of power and influence, they're just stiff-arming him, however I fully expect some salacious story to reveal itself the further this campaign goes.

Seems the DNC has a recent history of tilting their playing field - as I recall they were caught doing that in 2016 to ensure Clinton was their candidate.

The dems are very afraid of RFK Jr, as evidenced by their continued smear campaign. Every article about him uses the propaganda phrases "conspiracy theorist" and "anti-vaxxer".

Which means they believe he would dethrone Biden or whichever other puppet they want to install were a fair nomination process allowed.

In a Trump v Kennedy election I would not be confident Trump would win.

There's no way Trump picks Kennedy as his running mate, but a Trump/Kennedy ticket would be unbeatable. They do have some pretty big differences in some areas, but Trump would be the boss. He could let Kennedy loose on some specific projects that Kennedy would love to sink his teeth into while freezing Kennedy out of other areas.

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There's no way Trump picks Kennedy as his running mate, but a Trump/Kennedy ticket would be unbeatable. They do have some pretty big differences in some areas, but Trump would be the boss. He could let Kennedy loose on some specific projects that Kennedy would love to sink his teeth into while freezing Kennedy out of other areas.

Unlikely, yes... but I wouldn't say "no way picks Kennedy".
Kari Lake? Except she's set to run for Senate.

Kari Lake to Announce Senate Run, Setting Up High-Stakes Arizona Race
Republican will launch her campaign at Oct. 10 rally; three-way race with independent Kyrsten Sinema and Democrat Ruben Gallego is likely

Most people who've been around the sun a few times know that RFK Jr. is a very liberal Democrat. He supports 95% of the Democrat's agenda, and when it comes to climate change, he is fully on board.

Younger voters may not have the full picture of who he is because this is really the first time he has been publicly involved in national politics in their lifetimes.

You can count on the left and the media do their best to portray him as right-wing or alt-right. It's laughable, but it will be effective for a certain segment of the LIV population.

I still think he draws more from Biden than Trump, but I could see him pulling more Trump voters than people might think.

As what I consider to be a “typical” moderate Trump voter there’s no way I could bring myself to vote for RFK as an independent, despite him being probably the best candidate on the whole. Just as I wanted to vote Libertarian in ‘16 but I knew that would essentially be giving my vote to Hillary and there was no way I’d be able to live with myself had I done that and she’d won. It’s much too important to keep Biden or whatever D might end up in his place from winning than to try and make a statement by voting independent.

Good news. RFK Jr is the whackiest candidate in the race, an that includes Morrison or whatever her name is.
He will draw some GOP votes, as one can read from the comments above, but mostly never-trumpers. He will pull enough Dem votes for Trump to win IFF Biden is the nominee.
If Newsom runs RFK Jr will drop out.

A Kennedy is a Kennedy is a Kennedy, you can change the first name but a Kennedy is a Kennedy.
I thought we were done with the "American Royal Family's" ( Kennedy, Bush,etc.) then they drag him out.
Many people have a VERY negative view of Kennedy's(think Vietnam soldiers, especially any that served in Vietnam in the beginning when Kennedy was in office.) so the Kennedy name ain't what it used to be and will turn many voters away.

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He will draw some GOP votes, as one can read from the comments above, but mostly never-trumpers. He will pull enough Dem votes for Trump to win IF Biden is the nominee.
If Newsom runs RFK Jr will drop out.

I mostly agree... but why do you think this:
If Newsom runs RFK Jr will drop out?

So, you think RFK Jr. is just running to get Biden to drop out?
The intel agencies, or deep state, clearly want a Newsom- DeSantis race as they see both as controllable.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/bid...fk-jr-112120741.html

Biden is going to be the loser if RFK Jr launches a third-party campaign: Kaylee McGhee White

No text...just a video.

Robert Kennedy Jr Admits His Campaign Has Done Polling on Running Independent and He Takes More General Election Votes from Donald Trump Than Joe Biden…

Shortly before RFK Jr stated that he would be announcing a run for president as an independent candidate, he appeared on a podcast to discuss the possibility of leaving the Democrat ticket. Mr Kennedy said his campaign had done research on the impact to the 2024 race if he ran as an independent.

Within the interview RFK Jr shares that his private polling reveals he takes more votes from Donald Trump than he does from Joe Biden. Thus, having seeded the background for favorable republican support, running as an independent now becomes the most effective way to stop Trump.
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https://theconservativetreehou...e-biden/#more-251453

I understand that a popular conspiracy theory among Dems, is that the Republicans are financially backing the RFK jr. campaign. I think it’s hilarious, but I promise you, it’s out there.

There’s a WaPo article about the “Right’s backing of RFK Jr.”, but you have to be a subscriber, and that’s not gonna happen.