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Still finding my way |
Good to know that there are guys like you on the job. Thanks!! | |||
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| Be not wise in thine own eyes  |
It’ not going to happen. What you will see is the demonization of selected guns, magazines (capacity) and ammo. Limited banning at first, as seen with bump stocks. This will be extended to other accessories and specific ammo. Red Flag laws will be implemented and slowly extended. We will see a move to elevate cost of ownership through taxation, licensing, training and regulation requirements. The Beto O’Rourke confiscation will not happen. It would be extremely messy, as those that have sworn an oath to defend the nation against all enemies, foreign and domestic, would likely act on their Patriotism. Our only hope is to delay and try to reverse course at the voting box. In the game of Frog in a pot of boiling water, the Democrats (Socialist) continue to win, little by little, while Republicans continue to compromise. A glimmer of hope when a Republican speaks out to defend our rights. But make no mistake, the Democrats (Socialist) continue unceasingly, slowly eroding our 2A Rights. This message has been edited. Last edited by: kimber1911, “We’re in a situation where we have put together, and you guys did it for our administration…President Obama’s administration before this. We have put together, I think, the most extensive and inclusive voter fraud organization in the history of American politics,” Pres. Select, Joe Biden “Let’s go, Brandon” Kelli Stavast, 2 Oct. 2021 | |||
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Dinosaur |
The way I see it, however slight the odds, the possibility exists for an answer one way or the other to somehow bite one on the ass, and answering questions like this simply to satisfy idle curiosity doesn’t make sense. | |||
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Sigforum K9 handler |
Especially in dealing with people who are becoming more and more irrational and paranoid by the minute. In another thread, a poster announced that nuclear weapons would be detonated on gun owners to force compliance. That level of paranoia is bad. And no one called him out on it only than to say they hoped he was kidding. Rational thought left the station long ago and fear mongering has taken over. We saw the same thing with the “sure thing” Hillary is going to be elected threads. This isn’t anything new. I think some people want to be miserable. | |||
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| Too soon old, too late smart |
As luck would have it, I just watched an account of the trial of a Dutch war criminal. The journalist who brought the guy down, mentioned that the Germans gave the orders, but for whatever reason, it was the Dutch police that did all the rounding up of the Jews and loading them on rail cars headed to the camps. At the beginning of the war there were 140,000 Jews in Holland or about 12% of the population. Only 8,000 returned to Holland after the war. Link The journalist’s statement starts about 24:00 | |||
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| Ignored facts still exist |
Not an original thought. Remember Eric Swalwell? https://www.washingtonexaminer...gun-owners-literally . | |||
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| Sigforum K9 handler |
Doesn’t have to be original, it’s still the grumbling of a madman. On either side. Have we become this unhinged? | |||
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| Be not wise in thine own eyes |
So it seems we have established a level of force which would be unacceptable for confiscation of weapons. We should all e-mail our representatives and petition them to pass a bill prohibiting use of nuclear weapons to enforce gun buy back or confiscation legislation. “We’re in a situation where we have put together, and you guys did it for our administration…President Obama’s administration before this. We have put together, I think, the most extensive and inclusive voter fraud organization in the history of American politics,” Pres. Select, Joe Biden “Let’s go, Brandon” Kelli Stavast, 2 Oct. 2021 | |||
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Fighting the good fight |
You're missing quite a bit of historical context here. You have to remember that, at the time, the Netherlands had been under Nazi military occupation since May 1940, and the Germans had ousted the legitimate Dutch government and installed an occupation government, whose ranks were filled with Dutch fascist/Nazi collaborators and supporters, including the police force. The police in the German Reich as well as the occupied territories were headed and organized by the SS. In addition, these new Dutch police were aided by an additional 5,000 German police officers that were brought in. So while it was ostensibly the "Dutch police", in actuality it was the SS and German police, and their chosen Dutch Nazi collaborators. So short of (for example) the Russians invading the US, overthrowing the government, gutting the police departments, installing new KGB-organized police forces filled with Russian police and Russian supporters, and then sending out these "American police" to confiscate guns, this isn't exactly an apples-to-apples analogy.  | |||
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Pretty much, that's why I am cleaning my rifle. | |||
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| Be not wise in thine own eyes |
Writing my letter now. Shall I say anything about LEO’s kicking in the door? That would seem to be excessive as well. But, then again if they knock, people might not answer the door. This is a very complicated issue. Many things to consider. Or maybe this is just sarcasm, you will never know because I am not using an emoji. “We’re in a situation where we have put together, and you guys did it for our administration…President Obama’s administration before this. We have put together, I think, the most extensive and inclusive voter fraud organization in the history of American politics,” Pres. Select, Joe Biden “Let’s go, Brandon” Kelli Stavast, 2 Oct. 2021 | |||
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| Go ahead punk, make my day |
Until it happens, we really don't know exactly how it will go down. My take is it will be VERY location dependent. Whole cites, counties, even states will tell .Fed to fuck off - either directly or by just ignoring it. There are plenty of cops who will smile while taking guns, just like there are plenty who won't. Hopefully we don't have to find out, but I think if we do, it could be ugly. | |||
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| Too soon old, too late smart |
The man responsible for getting that war criminal to trial probably had a better idea of who did what in his own country. A man with a family to feed, car and house payments to make might not resist following orders. | |||
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| Fighting the good fight |
Yet a few second long, one sentence snippet from them about the Dutch police, from within a 40 minute documentary about a mostly unrelated topic of a Dutch-born Nazi who committed war crimes in Poland, isn't capable of adequately explaining the details and nuances of Dutch police reorganization, recruiting and staffing under Nazi occupation, or of Dutch police collaboration in the Holocaust in the Netherlands. It's no more comprehensive than a one sentence sound bite from a American journalist stating "American gun owners committed mass murders". While yes, that is technically an accurate statement, there's a lot more to the story than that, and to actually understand the issue you must examine the facts and context in greater detail than a brief soundbite allows. | |||
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I agree, it will depend on the jurisdiction and the head chief/sheriff. It can and will happen in certain areas with many officers being more than happy to do it. Look at the results in New Orleans when the officers from different departments going door to door getting/collecting the guns. Don't get me wrong, I am all for our men and women in blue and work along side them day to day, but there will be some who have no problem doing what they are told, even going against what they were sworn to uphold. What I have/had a problem with mostly during that time, when did they go to the problem areas and confiscate the guns from those that were causing the problems? It will be a scary time if that happens nation wide and we will also have to deal with the military on top of the local departments. | |||
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| Go ahead punk, make my day |
Yeah, if we have to deal with the military, the train will have left the tracks completely. | |||
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| Peace through superior firepower  |
You guys just about done with this? | |||
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During my last year in LE, we had to confiscate firearms from offenders in family violence cases. I didn't do it every day, but the times I did, I just had to soldier-on due to having to carry out policy. It was either do my job or not have one. Retired Texas Lawman | |||
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Take a protection from abuse order for example. Wife goes down to the local court house and says my husband threatened to kill me with his gun. Mind you no police report was ever filed, no investigation took place, no jury of your peers. Judge grants order and wife drops it off at the local sheriff office to be served. Police tell husband he is instantly barred from his house and his guns are to be turned over. Not one criminal charge is ever filed. | |||
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| Be not wise in thine own eyes |
“We’re in a situation where we have put together, and you guys did it for our administration…President Obama’s administration before this. We have put together, I think, the most extensive and inclusive voter fraud organization in the history of American politics,” Pres. Select, Joe Biden “Let’s go, Brandon” Kelli Stavast, 2 Oct. 2021 | |||
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