thanks JALLEN

The letter says Perkins Coie engaged Fusion to assist in its representation of the DNC and Hillary for America

Hillary for America was led by Robby Mook and funded for over $ 1 Billion.

Fusion was "engaged" "to perform a variety of research services during the 2016 election cycle"

The letter also says that it would be appropriate for all parties who hired Fusion in connection w the 2016 presidential campaign to release Fusion from the confidentiality of identifying them as clients.

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so still open is:

What triggered Perkins Coie to send the letter ?

Who went public on the contents of the letter ?

speculation: Fusion is under attack to identify its clients by the House committee and also a lawsuit from a company that claims it was defamed in the dossier.

perhaps Fusion told Perkins Coie their identity was going to come out one way or another, and this was an attempt at fake transparency

The DNC and Clinton campaign must have been rocked when that letter came out. One would think that Perkins Coie gave them a warning notice.

The last thing Fusion or anyone wants is rummaging around in Fusion’s bank records willy-nilly, or dilley dilley either.

The letter says it is ok for Fusion to disclose P-C had hired it. They urge other clients to permit the same disclosure to avoid bank according examination, and God knows what all else.

It is important to read these letters very carefully. They are written very carefully to say exactly what is meant, by lawyers who habitually write very carefully.

I believe “litigation” includes Congressional inquiries.

CNN Chris Cillizza makes a fool of himself yet again

19 Oct 2017 President Trump tweeted:

"Workers of firm involved with the discredited and Fake Dossier take the 5th. Who paid for it, Russia, the FBI or the Dems (or all)?"


CNN responds w an ad that says "this is an apple"

and CNN Chris Cillizza writes:

He is suggesting that a dossier prepared by a former member of British intelligence has not only been totally discredited (it hasn't -- more on that in a minute) but that it might have been funded by some combination of Russia, the Democratic Party and, wait for it, the FBI!

Trump is suggesting that the dossier itself was funded by some combination of a foreign power, the opposition political party and a federal law enforcement agency.

It's easy to roll your eyes at the very suggestion and dismiss that idea as just Trump being Trump. "You guys always take him literally," Trump's supporters will say. "You shouldn't!"

OK. But here's the thing: President Trump is, um, the President. Which means he is held to the same standard every past president is held to. And by that standard, this tweet is crazy.

The point here is that it is deeply irresponsible for a president of the United States to even flirt with this sort of conspiracy talk. You can love Donald Trump and still believe that the idea that the Russians, the Democrats and the FBI co-funded a dossier designed to discredit Trump's 2016 campaign is totally bonkers.

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welcome to bonkerville Chris Cillizza, you lying DEM shill

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/...ump-dossier-n2400317

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You can love Donald Trump and still believe that the idea that the Russians, the Democrats and the FBI co-funded a dossier designed to discredit Trump's 2016 campaign is totally bonkers.

Bonkers, yes. Unfortunately it seems to have the disadvantage of being true.
Interesting times....

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Originally posted by sjtill:

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You can love Donald Trump and still believe that the idea that the Russians, the Democrats and the FBI co-funded a dossier designed to discredit Trump's 2016 campaign is totally bonkers.

Bonkers, yes. Unfortunately it seems to have the disadvantage of being true.
Interesting times....

The really bonkers part is that this was their best, all they had. OMG! Hookers and pee on a bed the bamster slept on! I suppose it was good enough to appoint a grand jury.

I can't imagine they ever thought they'd have to use it. They must have really been convinced they couldn't lose. Then when they lost they thought: "Oh shit! This is all we've got"

Can somebody explain how we came to know the dossier was funded by shill's campaign and the DNC? How solid is the evidence?

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Originally posted by pbslinger:

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Originally posted by sjtill:

quote:

You can love Donald Trump and still believe that the idea that the Russians, the Democrats and the FBI co-funded a dossier designed to discredit Trump's 2016 campaign is totally bonkers.

Bonkers, yes. Unfortunately it seems to have the disadvantage of being true.
Interesting times....

The really bonkers part is that this was their best, all they had. OMG! Hookers and pee on a bed the bamster slept on! I suppose it was good enough to appoint a grand jury.

I can't imagine they ever thought they'd have to use it. They must have really been convinced they couldn't lose. Then when they lost they thought: "Oh shit! This is all we've got"

Can somebody explain how we came to know the dossier was funded by shill's campaign and the DNC? How solid is the evidence?

Well the trail is:

Fusion GPS is a oppo group that thr DNC and hillary campaign funded to find dirt on trump. Fusion GPS paid for the dossier and listed thier sources as 3 russian officials. Therefore DNC collaborated with a foreign govt to win the election. Steele cited his sources as the ruskies, lol. Just google fusion gps and clinton campsign and you get CNNs article. Yes CNN.


You also know its true since hillary has already come out to say she had no idea of any of the connections to fusion gps and the dossier.

The evidence is the letter that JALLEN provided a link to (post on previous page at bottom)

https://www.wsj.com/articles/t...ombshells-1509059214

The confirmation this week that Hillary Clinton’s campaign and the Democratic National Committee paid an opposition-research firm for a “dossier” on Donald Trump is bombshell news. More bombshells are to come.

The Fusion GPS saga isn’t over. The Clinton-DNC funding is but a first glimpse into the shady election doings concealed within that oppo-research firm’s walls. We now know where Fusion got some of its cash, but the next question is how the firm used it. With whom did it work beyond former British spy Christopher Steele ? Whom did it pay? Who else was paying it?

The answers are in Fusion’s bank records. Fusion has doggedly refused to divulge the names of its clients for months now, despite extraordinary pressure. So why did the firm suddenly insist that middleman law firm Perkins Coie release Fusion from confidentiality agreements, and spill the beans on who hired it?

Because there’s something Fusion cares about keeping secret even more than the Clinton-DNC news—and that something is in those bank records. The release of the client names was a last-ditch effort to appease the House Intelligence Committee, which issued subpoenas to Fusion’s bank and was close to obtaining records until Fusion filed suit last week. The release was also likely aimed at currying favor with the court, given Fusion’s otherwise weak legal case. The judge could rule as early as Friday morning.

If the House wins, don’t be surprised if those records include money connected to Russians

FBI bombshells are also yet to come. The bureau has stonewalled congressional subpoenas for documents related to the dossier, but that became harder with the DNC-Clinton news. On Thursday Speaker Paul Ryan announced the FBI had finally pledged to turn over its dossier file next week.

Assuming the FBI is comprehensive in its disclosure, expect to learn that the dossier was indeed a major basis of investigating the Trump team—despite reading like “the National Enquirer,”

Mr. Comey was so convinced by the dossier that he pushed to have it included in the intelligence community’s January report on Russian meddling. Imagine if it turns out the FBI was duped by a politically contracted document that might have been filled up by the Kremlin.

There’s plenty yet to come with regard to the DNC and the Clinton campaign. Every senior Democrat is disclaiming knowledge of the dossier deal, leaving Perkins Coie holding the bag. But while it is not unusual for law firms to hire opposition-research outfits for political clients, it is highly unusual for a law firm to pay bills without a client’s approval. Somewhere, Perkins Coie has documents showing who signed off on those bills, and they aren’t protected by attorney-client privilege.

And there are still bombshells with regard to unmasking of Americans in surveilled communications. If the Steele dossier reports (which appear to date back to June 2016) were making their way into the hands of senior DNC and Clinton political operatives, you can bet they were making their way to the Obama White House. This may explain why Obama political appointees began monitoring the Trump campaign and abusing unmasking. They were looking for a “gotcha,” something to disqualify a Trump presidency. Of course, they were doing so on the basis of “salacious and unverified” accusations made by anonymous Russians, but never mind.

No, this probe of the Democratic Party’s Russian dalliance has a long, long way to go. And, let us hope, with revelations too big for even the media to ignore.

INVESTIGATE THIS

One of our most knowledgeable law enforcement readers writes to emphasize a point bearing on our coverage of the Trump Dossier. He adds valuable context to our commentary:

As a retired FBI Special Agent with over two decades of experience in counterintelligence, I’d like to make a point that Scott and Paul are surely aware of, but which it’s useful to keep at the front of your mind.

Scott regularly refers to the Trump dossier as the “Rosetta Stone” of the “muh Russia” narrative. That’s true, but it’s helpful to go one step further. The real importance of the Trump dossier from a criminal law standpoint lies in the use it was put to for official government purposes. To understand that we need to know whether the dossier was used to justify the initiation of Full Investigations (FIs), according to the relevant AG Guidelines for National Security investigations.

We can take it as given that such FIs were opened that broadly targeted the overall Trump political organization–campaign staffers, advisers, etc. We know this because we know that FISA orders were sought and (eventually) approved. We also know that the real target was Trump himself, since the initial FISA application in June or July 2016 specifically named Trump.

FISA coverage can only be used if a FI has been previously authorized. In this circumstance I believe (I’ll skip my reasoning) that the real goal of opening a FI was precisely to obtain FISA coverage. For that reason the likelihood is that the substantially same justification that was used to obtain an order from the FISC had already been used internally (at the FBI and DoJ) to justify opening a FI. How many FIs were opened relating to the overall Trump organization? Who were the subjects? What was the predication (and, especially, did that include the dossier)?

The full relevance of these considerations can be seen from Scott and Paul’s review of just how threadbare the dossier really was in terms of authentication. If it was used in applications to the FISC with the knowledge that it was “oppo research” and likely not credible, and if that knowledge was withheld from the FISC, I suspect we’re looking at the real possibility of criminal conduct. And bear in mind that such applications (for FISA coverage relating to a candidate for President or a President-elect) would have been approved only at the highest levels before submission to the FISC.

To put two names to that process: James Comey and Loretta Lynch. If they knowingly deceived the FISC–and that depends, as far as we can tell at this point, largely on how they may have used the “dossier”–they’re looking at serious criminal liability.

All of this explains the FBI and DoJ stonewalling. Comey and the rest are well aware of the implications for them. Bear in mind too that the stonewalling isn’t limited to document production–important as that may be. FBI and DoJ have been refusing to allow their personnel to testify to Congressional committees–that is, personnel below the top few officials.

Investigations of the magnitude we’re discussing necessarily include a fair number of people and the testimony of those other people would likely shed valuable light on the true nature of the process that was followed, who made the decisions, what was known about the credibility of information that was used to justify official actions, who really believed those justifications, the nature of coordination with other government agencies, etc. This is where the investigative rubber will hit the road.

http://www.powerlineblog.com/a...investigate-this.php

These are my impressions:

1. If the oppo research firm paid or was paid $9M as reported, there is no possible way that either Little Debbie, Podesta or Hillary didn't know about that. This isn't like buying paper from Staples. That kind of scratch isn't spent without high level people knowing about it and constant updates being made for that kind of money.

2. Hillary knew her campaign was in trouble and needed help from all sources - media and the White House. Since all the dossier contents were fake and made up, the juicy stuff or hints of juicy stuff would be picked up and blasted everywhere by the media. I'm guessing that Hillary's people and the DNC worked closely with the White House on the contents of the dossier.

3. I'm convinced that Obama's people knew it was false but used it as pretense to wiretap on Trump's people to funnel info to the medial and Hillary's campaign.

4. As the shit continues to hit the fan, we'll learn that this was condoned by high levels in her campagn, DNC and the White House since if she won, none of this would ever come to light.

5. Watergate was a nothing issue compared to this.

We'll know when things are getting really bad for the Clintons because they will go off the radar and then appear in some country from which they cannot be extradited. I'll bet they have already thought their way through this. And that others have as well.

I don't think they'll run. They will play the health card. Mean 'ol Trump will be "persecuting an invalid grandmother. And he's trying to deny her healthcare!"

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Originally posted by justjoe:
We'll know when things are getting really bad for the Clintons because they will go off the radar and then appear in some country from which they cannot be extradited. I'll bet they have already thought their way through this. And that others have as well.

Indictment, passports revoked and all assets frozen, simultaneously

http://www.washingtonexaminer....fort/article/2638850

Lawyers for the conservative publication Washington Free Beacon informed the House Intelligence Committee Friday that the organization was the original funder for the anti-Trump opposition research project with Fusion GPS.

The Free Beacon funded the project from the fall of 2015 through the spring of 2016, whereupon it withdrew funding and the project was picked up by the Democratic National Committee and the Hillary Clinton campaign.

bit of a surprise

The original arrangement between the Free Beacon and Fusion GPS involved opposition research into multiple Republican candidates, not just front-runner Donald Trump.

Sources close to the Free Beacon stress that the project, when the Free Beacon funded it , had nothing to do with Russia and did not involve Christopher Steele, the former British spy who gathered anti-Trump dirt in Russia. Steele was retained by Fusion GPS when the project was funded by Democrats, and not in its initial phase, when the Free Beacon was involved.

The Free Beacon was originally part of a 501(c)(4) tax-exempt organization called the Center for American Freedom

The Center for American Freedom's original board of directors included William Kristol,

Kristol is one of the nation's most prominent "Never Trump" activists

statement from Free Beacon:

http://freebeacon.com/uncatego...hington-free-beacon/

Since its launch in February of 2012, the Washington Free Beacon has retained third party firms to conduct research on many individuals and institutions of interest to us and our readers. In that capacity, during the 2016 election cycle we retained Fusion GPS to provide research on multiple candidates in the Republican presidential primary, just as we retained other firms to assist in our research into Hillary Clinton.

All of the work that Fusion GPS provided to the Free Beacon was based on public sources, and none of the work product that the Free Beacon received appears in the Steele dossier. The Free Beacon had no knowledge of or connection to the Steele dossier, did not pay for the dossier, and never had contact with, knowledge of, or provided payment for any work performed by Christopher Steele. Nor did we have any knowledge of the relationship between Fusion GPS and the Democratic National Committee, Perkins Coie, and the Clinton campaign.

Representatives of the Free Beacon approached the House Intelligence Committee today and offered to answer what questions we can in their ongoing probe of Fusion GPS and the Steele dossier. But to be clear: We stand by our reporting, and we do not apologize for our methods. We consider it our duty to report verifiable information, not falsehoods or slander, and we believe that commitment has been well demonstrated by the quality of the journalism that we produce. The First Amendment guarantees our right to engage in news-gathering as we see fit, and we intend to continue doing just that as we have since the day we launched this project.

John McCain Won’t Say Whether He Knew He Was Handing Clinton-Funded Russia Dossier to FBI

Arizona Senator John McCain doesn’t appear to have the same fierce stance against President Donald Trump after he was recently identified by the British intelligence agents as a part of a twisted plot which started not long after the Republican candidate won the 2016 presidential elections.

New details claim that McCain had attended oversease meetings as Hillary Clinton’s “secret agent,” and now, the Arizona senator is desperate to hide the explosive evidence which President Trump seems to be well aware of.

His role as Hillary’s top dog was outed by Sir Andrew Wood, a former British ambassador to Moscow, and he reveals that he was approached by McCain not long after Trump won the election. After that, Wood stated that McCain had obtained the documents from the senator’s own sources.

And the entire thing fits perfectly with the most recent claims that connected Hillary Clinton as well as the Democratic National Committee to the Trump dossier, which was written by former MI6 spy Christopher Steele.

McCain has found himself in the middle of the scandal, running up to Canada to “consult” with the British head spymaster and ambassador to Moscow. Details point out that the Arizona senator’s activation on the field shortly after Trump won the election, with the goal of getting the dossier and using it to start a movement to get Trump impeached was planned all along.

As if that didn’t make the situation suspicious enough, McCains office didn’t provide an explanation about how he first obtained the dossier. There is something going on and it is clear to everyone that the senator which appeals to Democrats more than his own party is hiding something.

http://www.usanewsflash.com/jo...-russia-dossier-fbi/

McCain needs to exit, stage left, from the national political stage.

not sure how to force the matter, but damm - dude is more than an embarassment, he’s actively working against the country’s interests. Edging, if not over the edge, of treason.

Sad ending

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Originally posted by feersum dreadnaught:
Edging, if not over the edge, of treason.

Wait, how could that possibly be. I heard he considered himself a hero.

Comedian Jimmy Dore really really felt the Bern, still does. The DNC torpedoing Bernie's campaign was his breaking point. Jimmy did a live stream youtube show yesterday on the Clinton/DNC Russia collusion. It is interesting to see the story addressed from a different view point, and heartening that some of the left, have had enough DNC/Hillary crap too.

Dore showed a wikileak document that was new to me/
Clinton Colluded With Russia To Smear Trump During Election

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Originally posted by springnr:
Comedian Jimmy Dore really really felt the Bern, still does. The DNC torpedoing Bernie's campaign was his breaking point. Jimmy did a live stream youtube show yesterday on the Clinton/DNC Russia collusion. It is interesting to see the story addressed from a different view point, and heartening that some of the left, have had enough DNC/Hillary crap too.

Dore showed a wikileak document that was new to me/
Clinton Colluded With Russia To Smear Trump During Election

The guy in that video is not the smoothest talker, but worth watching.