The left has been adept at placing political operatives throughout FBI management. The management chain of command are almost exclusively Democrat loyalists. Those managers have made it hell on 'outed' conservatives assigned to the Field Offices and RAs. There is a long list of folks in management who need to lose security clearances and get canned in disgrace. The entire DC headquarters could be demolished, absent about two dozen people, and legitimate case work would probably continue on unaffected.

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Hey, Federal cops?
Start wearing body cams! Everybody else has to! I hope Trump requires this ASAP.

The FBI could start recording their interviews as well, versus simply writing down "what was said".

This never ceases to amaze me.


Why would you NOT audio/video record in this day and age? 80% of communication is body language, tone and inflection in verbal language is huge. No reason not to record unless you are not truly interested in the truth and want to be able to color it to your benefit.

An agent’s written “recollection” of an interview is no more compelling than hearsay as far as I am concerned.

Shouldn't it just be the FBI Management that should be worried?
I get it that the crew is just doing what they are told and should resist but don't because they need to feed their families but it is the Deep State Top that is the real problem.

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I get it that the crew is just doing what they are told and should resist but don't because they need to feed their families

Too bad. Silence is compliance. Fire them all.

I had to feed MY family when I blew the whistle on the CRCT cheating and it cost me everything.

ANY agent that failed to take one for the good of the country was just another jack booted brown shirted shill. FUCK them. They could have banded together to stop it, under Trump's first administration, but didn't. They are part of the problem.

Their oath was to the Constitution, not management.


If enough followed the oath, management would not have been able to pressure them to do otherwise.

Do this right and Virginia will be voting red again.

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Why would you NOT audio/video record in this day and age?

You know exactly why. A recording may hinder some of their railroading.

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Originally posted by smschulz:
Shouldn't it just be the FBI Management that should be worried?
I get it that the crew is just doing what they are told and should resist but don't because they need to feed their families but it is the Deep State Top that is the real problem.

"I was just following orders" is not a defense any more.

My friend at the local Sheriff's office says that he must follow orders, unless the order is illegal.

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Originally posted by VBVAGUY:
I have a friend that is in the FBI and he told me that most of the firings will probably be upper management and most of the agents are for Trump and want change in their leadership at the Bureau. God Bless

I have a relative who is an agent. She tells me the same thing. Most agents she knows feel the same.

I'd probably say the same thing if I was suddenly scared for my job.

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Shouldn't it just be the FBI Management that should be worried?

Well, we can spend millions of taxpayer dollars and however long it takes investigating that to make sure we only fire the rotten fucks that need to go, or we can do a clean sweep and start over and put that same money and energy into ensuring that a whole new culture is ingrained instead of what's left of Hoover's legacy. I know where I feel like the time and money would be better spent.

Yes, some good people will get caught up in this, but oh-fucking-well.

I know this is probably beyond the realm of possibility, but I’d like to see the Federal Marshals Service to become the only domestic Federal law enforcement branch to handle the criminal violations of Federal law.

The other FedLEOs to be relegated to non-violent, and support functionaries. The Department of Homeland Security needs to be eliminated, and the original agencies returned to their former departments.

^^^ Yes, 1 law enforcement branch of federal gov't. However, I'd rather see an entirely new branch so it's easy to fire bureacrats and executives in FBI, BATFE, DEA, etc.

Then 1 domestic security branch that handles border and counterintelligence (e.g. keeping an eye on Russians, Chinese, etc in our country). Entirely new branch so it's easy to fire bureacrats and executives in CBP, ICE, TSA, USSS. Either that or broaden USCG's role and make every employee live up to the Coastie's standards.

Then 1 international security branch that handles electronic intelligence, physical intelligence, and direct action outside our borders. Once again, entirely new branch so it's easy to fire the bureacrats and executives in CIA, NSA, CSS, OIA, etc.

I have relatives that work in federal LEO and it would be wrong to include them in a mass layoffs, firings or involuntary mobility moves, as part of the dead weight purge.

There are plenty of people in these agencies that are dead weight and need to be gone. Not going to pretend or argue differently but there are people within these agencies that are doing the good solid work that we want and expect from dedicated LEO.

Get rid of the partisan people who are motivated by politics but not everyone should be part of the purge.

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I’ll take it a step further- if only they had faithfully upheld their oath of office.

Amen to that! Retired federal employee and retired military officer!

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Originally posted by Flashlightboy:
Get rid of the partisan people who are motivated by politics but not everyone should be part of the purge.

And how do you propose we do that in a way that doesn’t take millions of dollars, years of investigation on a scale that’s truly mind-boggling, and still manages to get all of them without touching the good guys. I want to know.

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Originally posted by Flashlightboy:
Get rid of the partisan people who are motivated by politics but not everyone should be part of the purge.

And how do you propose we do that in a way that doesn’t take millions of dollars, years of investigation on a scale that’s truly mind-boggling, and still manages to get all of them without touching the good guys. I want to know.

You and I will be on opposites sides of this if you're proposing simply firing everyone at three letter agencies.

How they purge the bad ones isn't my concern and I'd be against your version of the purge, if I'm reading you correctly,

Are you saying everyone at the FBI should be fired, laid off or reassigned to posts that we know they won't accept, as pretext to firing them?

I can tell you this for certain. There are good agents and bad agents in every office. I guarantee you which are which is no secret.

It would be easier than we suspect to separate them.

Ya'll need to relax . There's not going to be any mass layoff .

Forcing everyone to submit to rehiring might work.

While the Marshals seem to have a good culture, but I don’t think they could scale up to be an FBI replacement/it would take a considerable rework of their mandate.

Every single individual even remotely involved in the bogus raid of Mar A Lago should be the first to be booted out the door on thier asses. Including those with National Archives.