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Originally posted by oddball:

... Her "Green New Deal" involves the following:...

This dream's in sight
You've got to admit it
At this point in time that it's clear
The future looks bright
On that train all graphite and glitter
Undersea by rail
Ninety minutes from new york to paris
Well by seventy-six we'll be A. O. K.

What a beautiful world this will be



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Originally posted by Skins2881:
AOC is making things way too easy for us. If anyone with a IQ over 65 thinks any of this is possible, I want what they are smoking.

The most fantastic thing about this is that every Democrat that has announced that he or she is running for President has signed onto or endorsed this unicorn fart. Pandering imbeciles. Let's see them defend this silly nonsense later in the campaign.

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Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:

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Originally posted by Skins2881:
AOC is making things way too easy for us. If anyone with a IQ over 65 thinks any of this is possible, I want what they are smoking.

The most fantastic thing about this is that every Democrat that has announced that he or she is running for President has signed onto or endorsed this unicorn fart. Pandering imbeciles. Let's see them defend this silly nonsense later in the campaign.

I noticed the exact same thing and thought to myself:

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Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:

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Originally posted by Skins2881:
AOC is making things way too easy for us. If anyone with a IQ over 65 thinks any of this is possible, I want what they are smoking.

The most fantastic thing about this is that every Democrat that has announced that he or she is running for President has signed onto or endorsed this unicorn fart. Pandering imbeciles. Let's see them defend this silly nonsense later in the campaign.

They were not expecting the backlash this received today. So bad that AOC has already pulled down the FAQ on her website and Politico is running a piece that says it was obviously not to be taken seriously, it was just put out there to raise awareness.

https://twitter.com/RyanMaue/s.../1093603663438901249

https://twitter.com/JerylBier/.../1093665364246970368

The Impossible Green Dream of Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez The 'Green New Deal' will never happen the way it’s laid out—and that’s also kind of the point.

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Originally posted by BamaJeepster:

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Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:

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Originally posted by Skins2881:
AOC is making things way too easy for us. If anyone with a IQ over 65 thinks any of this is possible, I want what they are smoking.

The most fantastic thing about this is that every Democrat that has announced that he or she is running for President has signed onto or endorsed this unicorn fart. Pandering imbeciles. Let's see them defend this silly nonsense later in the campaign.

They were not expecting the backlash this received today. So bad that AOC has already pulled down the FAQ on her website and Politico is running a piece that says it was obviously not to be taken seriously, it was just put out there to raise awareness.

https://twitter.com/RyanMaue/s.../1093603663438901249

https://twitter.com/JerylBier/.../1093665364246970368

The Impossible Green Dream of Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez The 'Green New Deal' will never happen the way it’s laid out—and that’s also kind of the point.

That's cute and all, but....

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It’s primarily a political manifesto, a messaging device designed to commit the Democratic Party to treating the climate crisis like a real crisis, pressuring its presidential candidates to support radical transformation of the fossil-fueled economy. At the same time, the Green New Deal is a policy proposal—

How do we force China and India to agree? Are we to start wars with any country that doesn't agree to the 'AOC Manifesto? Is dropping nukes on China a net-zero carbon friendly proposition?

The 10 Most Insane Requirements Of The Green New Deal\

The Green New Deal isn't just un-America, it's also completely bonkers.

By David Harsanyi. FEBRUARY 7, 2019

Note: Ocasio-Cortez’s office has taken down their page describing the Green New Deal.

A number of Democratic Party presidential hopefuls — including Cory Booker, Kamala Harris, Elizabeth Warren, Kirsten Gillibrand, Julián Castro, and Beto O’Rourke, for starters — have already endorsed or expressed support for the “Green New Deal” (GND). Today, Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and Sen. Edward J. Markey dropped details about her plan.

It is not hyperbole to contend that GND is likely the most ridiculous and un-American plan that’s ever been presented by an elected official to voters. Not merely because it would necessitate a communist strongman to institute, but also because the societal cost are unfathomable. The risible historic analogies Markey and Ocasio-Cortez rely on, the building of the interstate highway system or moon landing, are nothing but trifling projects compared to a plan overhauls modernity by voluntarily destroying massive amounts of wealth and technology. That is the GND.

While some of the specifics need to be ironed out, the plan’s authors assure that this “massive transformation of our society” needs some “clear goals and a timeline.” The timeline is ten years. Here are some of the goals:

Ban affordable energy. GND calls for the elimination of all fossil fuel energy production, the lifeblood of American industry and life, which includes not only all oil but also natural gas — one of the cheapest sources of American energy, and one of the reasons the United States has been able to lead the world in carbon-emissions reduction.

Eliminate nuclear energy. The GND also calls for eliminating all nuclear power, one of the only productive and somewhat affordable “clean” energy sources available to us, in 11 years. This move would purge around 20 percent of American energy production so you can rely on intermittent wind for your energy needs.

Eliminate 99 percent of cars. To be fair, under the GND, everyone will need to retrofit their cars with Flintstones-style foot holes or pedals for cycling. The authors state that the GND would like to replace every “combustion-engine vehicle” — trucks, airplanes, boats, and 99 percent of cars — within ten years. Charging stations for electric vehicles will be built “everywhere,” though how power plants will provide the energy needed to charge them is a mystery.

Gut and rebuild every building in America. Markey and Cortez want to “retrofit every building in America” with “state of the art energy efficiency.” I repeat, “every building in America.” That includes every home, factory, and apartment building, which will all need, for starters, to have their entire working heating and cooling systems ripped out and replaced with…well, with whatever technology Democrats are going invent in their committee hearings, I guess.

Eliminate air travel. GND calls for building out “highspeed rail at a scale where air travel stops becoming necessary.” Good luck Hawaii! California’s high-speed boondoggle is already in $100 billion dollars of debt, and looks to be one of the state’s biggest fiscal disasters ever. Amtrak runs billions of dollars in the red (though, as we’ll see, trains will also be phased out). Imagine growing that business model out to every state in America?

A government-guaranteed job. The bill promises the United States government will provide every single American with a job that includes a “family-sustaining wage, family and medical leave, vacations, and a pension.” You can imagine that those left in the private sector would be funding these through some unspecified “massive” taxation. On the bright side, when you’re foraging for food, your savings will be worthless.

Free education for life. GND promises free college or trade schools for every American.
A salubrious diet. The GND promises the government will provide “healthy food” to every American (because there are no beans or lettuce in your local supermarket, I guess).

A house. The GND promises that the government will provide, “safe, affordable, adequate housing” for every American citizen. I call dibs on an affordable Adams Morgan townhouse. Thank you, Ocasio-Cortez.

Free money. The GND aims to provide, and I am not making this up, “economic security” for all who are “unable or unwilling” to work. Just to reiterate: if you’re unwilling to work, the rest of us will have your back.

Bonus insanity: Ban meat. Ocasio-Cortez admits that we can’t get zero emissions in 10 years “because we aren’t sure that we’ll be able to fully get rid of farting cows and airplanes that fast.” The only way to get rid of farting cows is to get rid of beef.

The GND uses the word “massive” to explain the size “investments” (formerly known as “taxes”) 13 times. How will we pay for this plan? “The same way we did the New Deal, the 2008 bank bailouts and extend quantitative easing,” say Markey and Cortez, who earned her degree in economics at an institution of higher learning that should be immediately decertified. The plan itself seems to insinuate that billionaires can pay for the whole thing. Of course, best case scenario, it is estimated that instituting a top marginal tax rate of 70 percent would raise a little more than $700 billion over that decade. She does not explain how we’re going to raise the other 20 bazillion dollars it will cost to tear down modernity.

Cortez and Markey claim that 92 percent of Democrats and 64 percent of Republicans support the Green New Deal. I’m not sure where that number is derived. But ask them again when government agents come to take out their water heater.


http://thefederalist.com/2019/...ents-green-new-deal/

yes Cortez took down her FAQ on the green new deal

You can still see it here:

https://apps.npr.org/documents...5-Green-New-Deal-FAQ

6 pages long

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Originally posted by BamaJeepster:
it was just put out there to raise awareness.

Awareness of what? How moronic fundamental socialist/Communist notions and proposals for making over society are? In that case, if her statements don’t accomplish the goal, nothing will. And I was actually starting to fear that would be true, i.e., that the masses would start thinking, “Hey, what good ideas!” as a majority marched toward the cliffs.

As I’ve said before, OC is genuinely raising my spirits a little. The unfortunate fact is that most people pay little attention to what politicians do, and that’s the reason for the mess we’re in. At this point I believe that only when the Left becomes bold enough to stop attempting to disguise their goals will those goals become obvious enough to wake up the sleepwalkers among us. I can only think back before the ’16 election when there were members here who said they wouldn’t—and couldn’t—vote for Trump, and didn’t care that by not voting for him that they were working for Clinton. What do those people think now when some socialists are bold enough to clearly describe what they have in mind for us all?

Cortez interview w Chuck Todd

https://www.breitbart.com/clip...rties-would-be-fine/

video at link

I can't summarize it. Chuck Todd interviews her like she is rational.

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Originally posted by BamaJeepster:
...Politico is running a piece that says it was obviously not to be taken seriously, it was just put out there to raise awareness.


"The Impossible Green Dream of Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez The 'Green New Deal' will never happen the way it’s laid out—and that’s also kind of the point."

That might be news to Miss Simpleton-Cortez.

Ocasio-Cortez: U.S. Is ‘Native Land’ for All Latinos

https://www.breitbart.com/poli...and-for-all-latinos/

All Latinos have a race-based right to migrate to the United States, Democratic Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez said Thursday.

“We have to have … respect for the right of human mobility,” Ocasio-Cortez told a press conference on Capitol Hill.

She continued, “It is a right. We are standing on native land, and Latino people are descendants of native people. We cannot be told and criminalized simply for our identity

Ocasio-Cortez’s racial claim would allow hundreds of millions of Latinos to migrate to the United States, regardless of U.S. laws and voters’ preferences. Her argument would also deny similar race-based migration rights to people who are not Latinos.

The New York Representative tied her open borders claim to her denunciation of funding for the Department of Homeland Security. “I will not commit one dollar – not one dollar — to an agency which dived when they were trusted to take care of Jakelin Caal.”

Caal was a Guatemalan child who died in early December 2018 after her father carried her across a remote stretch of the U.S-Mexico border. He was part of a large group of economic migrants who illegally entered the United States.

Ocasio-Cortez’s racial argument is different but also complementary to the open borders claims by American progressives who argue that the United States is a nation of and for immigrants, not a nation of and for Americans and their children.

She also argued that the U.S. Constitution protects migration. “We are a land of laws, and what that means is that everyone who steps on this soil … deserves to have access to our bill of rights. And that is what makes American special,” the New York representative said.

Each year, four million Americans are born, and four million Americans turn 18. But the federal government brings in more than one million legal immigrants, alongside an inflow of roughly 300,000 illegals and overstays.

The establishment’s economic policy of using legal and illegal migration to boost economic growth shifts enormous wealth from young employees towards older investors by flooding the market with cheap white-collar and blue-collar foreign labor.

That annual flood of roughly one million legal immigrants — as well as visa workers and illegal immigrants — spikes profits and Wall Street values by shrinking salaries for 150 million blue-collar and white-collar employees and especially wages for the four million young Americans who join the labor force each year.

The cheap labor policy widens wealth gaps, reduces high tech investment, increases state and local tax burdens, hurts kids’ schools and college education, pushes Americans away from high tech careers, and sidelines millions of marginalized Americans, including many who are now struggling with fentanyl addictions.

Immigration also steers investment and wealth away from towns in Heartland states because coastal investors can more easily hire and supervise the large immigrant populations who prefer to live in coastal cities. In turn, that coastal investment flow drives up coastal real estate prices and pushes poor U.S. Americans, including Latinos and blacks, out of prosperous cities such as Berkeley and Oakland, California.

Nancy Pelosi throwing some shade at this Commie idiot!

“The green dream or whatever they call it, nobody knows what it is, but they’re for it right?”

Alexandria Occasional Cortex. Best one I've heard lately.

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Originally posted by wcb6092:
Ocasio-Cortez: U.S. Is ‘Native Land’ for All Latinos

https://www.breitbart.com/poli...and-for-all-latinos/

All Latinos have a race-based right to migrate to the United States, Democratic Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez said Thursday.

“We have to have … respect for the right of human mobility,” Ocasio-Cortez told a press conference on Capitol Hill.

She continued, “It is a right. We are standing on native land, and Latino people are descendants of native people. We cannot be told and criminalized simply for our identity

Ocasio-Cortez’s racial claim would allow hundreds of millions of Latinos to migrate to the United States, regardless of U.S. laws and voters’ preferences. Her argument would also deny similar race-based migration rights to people who are not Latinos.

The New York Representative tied her open borders claim to her denunciation of funding for the Department of Homeland Security. “I will not commit one dollar – not one dollar — to an agency which dived when they were trusted to take care of Jakelin Caal.”

Caal was a Guatemalan child who died in early December 2018 after her father carried her across a remote stretch of the U.S-Mexico border. He was part of a large group of economic migrants who illegally entered the United States.

Ocasio-Cortez’s racial argument is different but also complementary to the open borders claims by American progressives who argue that the United States is a nation of and for immigrants, not a nation of and for Americans and their children.

She also argued that the U.S. Constitution protects migration. “We are a land of laws, and what that means is that everyone who steps on this soil … deserves to have access to our bill of rights. And that is what makes American special,” the New York representative said.

Each year, four million Americans are born, and four million Americans turn 18. But the federal government brings in more than one million legal immigrants, alongside an inflow of roughly 300,000 illegals and overstays.

The establishment’s economic policy of using legal and illegal migration to boost economic growth shifts enormous wealth from young employees towards older investors by flooding the market with cheap white-collar and blue-collar foreign labor.

That annual flood of roughly one million legal immigrants — as well as visa workers and illegal immigrants — spikes profits and Wall Street values by shrinking salaries for 150 million blue-collar and white-collar employees and especially wages for the four million young Americans who join the labor force each year.

The cheap labor policy widens wealth gaps, reduces high tech investment, increases state and local tax burdens, hurts kids’ schools and college education, pushes Americans away from high tech careers, and sidelines millions of marginalized Americans, including many who are now struggling with fentanyl addictions.

Immigration also steers investment and wealth away from towns in Heartland states because coastal investors can more easily hire and supervise the large immigrant populations who prefer to live in coastal cities. In turn, that coastal investment flow drives up coastal real estate prices and pushes poor U.S. Americans, including Latinos and blacks, out of prosperous cities such as Berkeley and Oakland, California.

The treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo. Read it and weep, babe

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Originally posted by wcb6092:


“We have to have … respect for the right of human mobility,” Ocasio-Cortez told a press conference on Capitol Hill.

Says the woman who wants to ban air travel.

I think Trump must have gone into the bar where she worked and found Alexandria Occasional Cortex and asked her if she wanted to be a congresswoman.
She's going to help him get reelected.

The current bill is a framework for future bills to use. She put it in there to be able to control the ownership of the whole idea.

To say that this idiot is batshit crazy is a grave insult to batshit crazy people. No, as I’ve said, she is like a seventh grader that thinks her ideas work like a science or social studies fair project. I’m surprised she isn’t trying to lay out her plans with two pieces of white board taped together and standing on end filled with magic marker drawings (different colors of course). A picture of stick figures lined up to get on magic trains with a track between NY and LA where you can see both cities connected by a short, meandering line. “See? It would only take a few minutes! I gotta go to the potty”.

Let the dems keep fronting her. Please do. They might think she is a useful idiot that can be shelved when they please but they have unleashed a retarded monster that won’t get back in her box when they tell her to.

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Originally posted by SigSAC:
The current bill is a framework for future bills to use. She put it in there to be able to control the ownership of the whole idea.

Just to be clear, this is not a bill or legislation. It's a manifest or resolution written by a lunatic.