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Daaaayummm. That’s slick.
 
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Are they loaded?



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Are they loaded?


If not, the high capacity magazine seems like a silly choice.
 
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You will not get an official answer of the state of weapons carried by the sentinel(s) if loaded or not.

OPSEC.




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They have bayonets and an incredible dedication to guarding the Tomb.



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Are they loaded?


If not, the high capacity magazine seems like a silly choice.


As discussed at length in the other thread about the subject, 21 has a lot of significance for the guards (hence the XXI on the slide), and the large magazines are capable of holding 21 rounds.




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Very cool details in the link.



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Originally posted by Palm:
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Originally posted by Keystoner:
Are they loaded?


If not, the high capacity magazine seems like a silly choice.


As discussed at length in the other thread about the subject, 21 has a lot of significance for the guards (hence the XXI on the slide), and the large magazines are capable of holding 21 rounds.


The story in the link says:

"Cocking Serrations: XXI cocking serrations are engraved on the slide to signify the twenty-one steps it takes for the Tomb Sentinels to walk by the Tomb of the Unknowns and the military honor of a 21 Gun Salute"



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Are they loaded?


If not, the high capacity magazine seems like a silly choice.


As discussed at length in the other thread about the subject, 21 has a lot of significance for the guards (hence the XXI on the slide), and the large magazines are capable of holding 21 rounds.

Other thread?



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You will not get an official answer of the state of weapons carried by the sentinel(s) if loaded or not.

OPSEC.

I would hope that they are fully loaded (21 in the magazine and one in the chamber). I would further hope that we never find out.
 
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Those guards deserve the best.


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Other thread.

And if we’re going to mock one ceremonial feature of guarding the Tombs such as the type of pistol magazine carried as being “silly,” then why not dispense with all the ceremony? Have the grounds keepers call the MPs at Fort Myer if there’s a problem—or perhaps dispense with the Tombs as well. Roll Eyes




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Very nice gesture by SIG. May The Old Guard wear them well.



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Not liking it.
 
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Not liking it.



Sorry, but what is it that you are not liking?


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That. Looks. Awesome!

That said, a question for all the doubters... Roll Eyes

With all the wack-job extremists/terrorists looking for high-visibility targets of opportunity (includes both the Muslim extremist jihadi types and the homegrown violent left-wing types), not to mention the attack that occurred in Canada just two years ago, exactly why would they NOT be carrying loaded sidearms?


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I have no doubt that those are at least Condition 3 weapons (pistols). No evidence or inside knowledge, just my measured assumption.
 
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You will not get an official answer of the state of weapons carried by the sentinel(s) if loaded or not.

OPSEC.

I would hope that they are fully loaded (21 in the magazine and one in the chamber). I would further hope that we never find out.






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I’d say the rifles aren’t.

But I’d hope the pistols are.
 
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