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Tomb of the Unknowns Guards Begin Use of Custom M17 Pistols
October 13, 2018, 06:25 PM
comet24Tomb of the Unknowns Guards Begin Use of Custom M17 Pistols
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October 13, 2018, 06:36 PM
RAMIUSDaaaayummm. That’s slick.
October 13, 2018, 06:40 PM
KeystonerAre they loaded?
Year V October 13, 2018, 07:02 PM
Palmquote:
Originally posted by Keystoner:
Are they loaded?
If not, the high capacity magazine seems like a silly choice.
October 13, 2018, 07:10 PM
sigmonkeyYou will not get an official answer of the state of weapons carried by the sentinel(s) if loaded or not.
OPSEC.
"the meaning of life, is to give life meaning" ✡ Ani Yehudi אני יהודי Le'olam lo shuv לעולם לא שוב! October 13, 2018, 07:13 PM
IcabodThey have bayonets and an incredible dedication to guarding the Tomb.
“ The work of destruction is quick, easy and exhilarating; the work of creation is slow, laborious and dull. October 13, 2018, 07:14 PM
sigfreundquote:
Originally posted by Palm:
quote:
Originally posted by Keystoner:
Are they loaded?
If not, the high capacity magazine seems like a silly choice.
As discussed at length in the other thread about the subject, 21 has a lot of significance for the guards (hence the XXI on the slide), and the large magazines are capable of holding 21 rounds.
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To operate serious weapons in a serious manner. October 13, 2018, 07:18 PM
SpinZoneVery cool details in the link.
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October 13, 2018, 07:20 PM
83v45magnaquote:
Originally posted by sigfreund:
quote:
Originally posted by Palm:
quote:
Originally posted by Keystoner:
Are they loaded?
If not, the high capacity magazine seems like a silly choice.
As discussed at length in the other thread about the subject, 21 has a lot of significance for the guards (hence the XXI on the slide), and the large magazines are capable of holding 21 rounds.
The story in the link says:
"Cocking Serrations: XXI cocking serrations are engraved on the slide to signify the twenty-one steps it takes for the Tomb Sentinels to walk by the Tomb of the Unknowns and the military honor of a 21 Gun Salute"
I returned, and saw under the sun, that the race is not to the swift, nor the battle to the strong, neither yet bread to the wise, nor yet riches to men of understanding, nor yet favour to men of skill; but time and chance happeneth to them all. -Ecclesiastes 9:11
...But the king shall rejoice in God; every one that sweareth by Him shall glory, but the mouth of them that speak lies shall be stopped. - Psalm 63:11 [excerpted] October 13, 2018, 07:31 PM
Keystonerquote:
Originally posted by sigfreund:
quote:
Originally posted by Palm:
quote:
Originally posted by Keystoner:
Are they loaded?
If not, the high capacity magazine seems like a silly choice.
As discussed at length in the other thread about the subject, 21 has a lot of significance for the guards (hence the XXI on the slide), and the large magazines are capable of holding 21 rounds.
Other thread?
Year V October 13, 2018, 07:32 PM
slosigquote:
Originally posted by sigmonkey:
You will not get an official answer of the state of weapons carried by the sentinel(s) if loaded or not.
OPSEC.
I would hope that they are fully loaded (21 in the magazine and one in the chamber). I would further hope that we never find out.
October 13, 2018, 07:37 PM
Sunset_VaThose guards deserve the best.
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October 13, 2018, 07:38 PM
sigfreund.
And if we’re going to mock one ceremonial feature of guarding the Tombs such as the type of pistol magazine carried as being “silly,” then why not dispense with all the ceremony? Have the grounds keepers call the MPs at Fort Myer if there’s a problem—or perhaps dispense with the Tombs as well.
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To operate serious weapons in a serious manner. October 13, 2018, 09:02 PM
RedhookbklynVery nice gesture by SIG. May The Old Guard wear them well.
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October 13, 2018, 09:29 PM
jdmb03Not liking it.
October 13, 2018, 09:58 PM
mrmn50quote:
Originally posted by jdmb03:
Not liking it.
Sorry, but what is it that you are not liking?
Thanks
October 13, 2018, 09:59 PM
nhracecraftquote:
Originally posted by comet24:
That. Looks. Awesome!
That said, a question for all the doubters...
With all the wack-job extremists/terrorists looking for high-visibility targets of opportunity (includes both the Muslim extremist jihadi types and the homegrown violent left-wing types), not to mention the attack that occurred in Canada just two years ago, exactly why would they NOT be carrying loaded sidearms?
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October 13, 2018, 10:38 PM
RHINOWSOI have no doubt that those are at least Condition 3 weapons (pistols). No evidence or inside knowledge, just my measured assumption.
October 13, 2018, 10:40 PM
sigmonkeyquote:
Originally posted by slosig:
quote:
Originally posted by sigmonkey:
You will not get an official answer of the state of weapons carried by the sentinel(s) if loaded or not.
OPSEC.
I would hope that they are fully loaded (21 in the magazine and one in the chamber). I would further hope that we never find out.
"the meaning of life, is to give life meaning" ✡ Ani Yehudi אני יהודי Le'olam lo shuv לעולם לא שוב! October 13, 2018, 11:01 PM
RAMIUSI’d say the rifles aren’t.
But I’d hope the pistols are.