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Originally posted by LS1 GTO:
...can move to Las Vegas. Let the betting begin.

Also noted was all the owners hated Krappercrap of San Francisco for kneeling during the national anthem. (Probably why he's still out of work? )


Sidenote. I understand last nights 49ers game was undersold, they were selling tickets to walk-ins for something like $10.




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Saw someone post something along the line of" "lots of 49er fans seem to be dressed up as seats" Big Grin




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Yeah that was interesting to see last night - of course on the TV they try to keep the angles so you can't see the empty stands (maybe they hired the cameramen from last years College Bowls, they had lots of practice for 95% of the games), but they can't do it forever and eventually you see pretty much nobody is there.

At first I thought is was at the Rams, figuring that LA would have no crowd - but it was in SF, and even though the Niners have sucked donkey ballz for the last, well, forever - I guessed that more people would be there from Liberal Hippy SF.


The new 49er stadium is in Santa Clara which is 40 miles away but over an hour driving rush hour during the week with all sorts of parking issues. Of course the stadium was empty on a Thursday night with two bad teams playing.
 
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The new 49er stadium is in Santa Clara which is 40 miles away but over an hour driving rush hour during the week with all sorts of parking issues. Of course the stadium was empty on a Thursday night with two bad teams playing.


Another sidenote. We went to a SF Giants game Sep 2 AT&T Park, SF hit 102 degrees that day). They announced the official attendance something like 35K, stadium capacity is something like 41K. We had a goodly view of most of the stadium. Nowhere nor at any time during the game did we see any seating area that approached 50% filled. The two most likely explanations are that many who bought tickets stayed home due to the heat. Or, they lied about their attendance.




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- Judge Learned Hand, May 1944
 
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With so many ungrateful disrespectful millionaire thug players and the jackass commissioner, more and more Americans are loosing interest. If they think the Hollyweird box office dive is a fluke because of the predominate leftist PC bullshit they spew, stand by! NFL now stands for Not For Long!



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I'm unhappy the team is leaving home but I'm thrilled Oakland isn't spending hundreds of millions of public dollars so a rich guy can have a place for his toy. I understand why Davis is moving the team and can't really disagree though trading the 6th largest market for the 40th may be a mistake in the long run. Vegas is willing to foot the cost of the stadium and allow Davis to maintain his ownership stake. The team moved before and I survived. I'll survive this move too. No more blackouts. RAIDERS!


I don't think it's a mistake. Vegas has a TON of things going for it, for a football team. Direct flights from all over the country, tons of hotel rooms, tons of other attractions. People will fly in just to see their favorite team play against the raiders. Plenty of things for the wife to do while the husband is watching the game.
 
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I don't think it's a mistake. Vegas has a TON of things going for it, for a football team. Direct flights from all over the country, tons of hotel rooms, tons of other attractions. People will fly in just to see their favorite team play against the raiders. Plenty of things for the wife to do while the husband is watching the game.


A stadium full of the opponents fans isn't great for the home team. The Chargers will learn that lesson again this year. Visiting fans don't buy corporate boxes. You want a sold out stadium and you want a home field advantage. The Raiders have both right now. Vegas long term is all guessing and hope at this point.
 
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The new 49er stadium is in Santa Clara which is 40 miles away but over an hour driving rush hour during the week with all sorts of parking issues. Of course the stadium was empty on a Thursday night with two bad teams playing.


Another sidenote. We went to a SF Giants game Sep 2 AT&T Park, SF hit 102 degrees that day). They announced the official attendance something like 35K, stadium capacity is something like 41K. We had a goodly view of most of the stadium. Nowhere nor at any time during the game did we see any seating area that approached 50% filled. The two most likely explanations are that many who bought tickets stayed home due to the heat. Or, they lied about their attendance.


I work in the city and live in the east bay. I'd have to leave work at 3 to make kickoff and that's after driving in terrible traffic To milpitas to catch light rail. Nobody in the right mind would pay 50$ to park

As noted I work in downtown SF if you check stubhub you can really go to value town on SF Giants tix now. Lower box a few rows back from the field could be had for $15 last homestand.
 
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More than that, Vegas being what it is, the stadium will be a venue for much more than Raiders games. They'll stuff any event in there they can think of. And most of the people attending those events will end up in the casinos, hotels, restaurants, clubs and shops on strip. So the "secondary" economic benefits to a fool all stadium in Vegas is higher in Vegas than most other cities. This is especially true since I would think a higher percentage of attendees as events in this stadium, football games or otherwise, will be out of town visitors.

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I'm unhappy the team is leaving home but I'm thrilled Oakland isn't spending hundreds of millions of public dollars so a rich guy can have a place for his toy. I understand why Davis is moving the team and can't really disagree though trading the 6th largest market for the 40th may be a mistake in the long run. Vegas is willing to foot the cost of the stadium and allow Davis to maintain his ownership stake. The team moved before and I survived. I'll survive this move too. No more blackouts. RAIDERS!


I don't think it's a mistake. Vegas has a TON of things going for it, for a football team. Direct flights from all over the country, tons of hotel rooms, tons of other attractions. People will fly in just to see their favorite team play against the raiders. Plenty of things for the wife to do while the husband is watching the game.
 
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