“Hawaii today put in the toughest measure of any state in sealing itself from further importing COVID-19.

Today Governor Ige from the State of Hawaii told visitors not to come to Hawaii and urged tourists already in the State to leave. He also urged Hawaii residents outside the State planning to return to before Thursday.

Located more than 2500 miles from California, Hawaii is a US State. Only the Federal Government would have the power to order flights to stop from coming to Hawaii. A State governor doesn’t have the power to stop flights, but here is how Hawaii as an Island State is enforcing a ban on visitors and returning residents.

Starting March 26, 12.01 am(Thursday) anyone arriving at any airport in Hawaii, or arriving by ship will be quarantined for 14 days. Compliance will be checked by authorities. Violating the order is a misdemeanor offense with a maximum fine of $5,000 and up to one-year imprisonment.

Anyone arriving in Hawaii after Thursday will be traced and the place of quarantine has to be communicated to authorities after landing.

Residents will be quarantined at their home, arriving visitors will be required to stay in their hotel room for 2 weeks, unable to leave the room for that period.

This measure is put in place to effectively shut down the State and protect the Hawaiian people from further import of the virus from the Mainland or abroad.

Honolulu Mayor Kirk Caldwell said: “This has never been done in our history and it breaks my heart to do stop the visitor’s industry.”

The Governor added his highest responsibility is to the people of Hawaii and the safety and health of anyone in the State.

The Governor said, Hawaii has a fragile infrastructure and all resources available should be used for residents. He said: “We don’t want travelers to come here and take resources from our community. Quarantine is to discourage travelers to go on a Hawaii vacation at this time. We can’t wait to welcome them back after all this is over.”

Consequently, many hotels may close, and mass unemployment may be forthcoming.
So far Marriott’s Ko Olina Hotels, the Four Seasons, Disney Aulani already said they would close operation. It includes their attractions and golf courses.

Airlines are expected to adjust in canceling most flights, effectively isolating Hawaii for human passengers from the US Mainland and abroad.

Muffi Hannemann, President & CEO of the Hawaii Lodging and Tourism Association said the hospitality industry is standing behind Governor Ige’s measures to protect the State from Coronavirus.

Hawaiian Airlines CEO Ingram pointed out his planes are safe and flight attendants are protected during their work. At the same time, he will support the Governor in his new measures and make adjustments for the airline.

The Governor concluded: “I am proud of the tourism industry stepping up. Our “Ohana (community family)” is together and our Aloha Spirit will remain.”

The Governor made clear a complete shut down of the State is not yet planned, but all options are on the table. He said he believes in Hawaiian residents doing the right thing. If any place in the world can do this, Hawaii can.”

https://www.eturbonews.com/567...orders-for-everyone/

Without declaring martial law I don’t think he can force a 14 day quarantine of anyone entering the state....the way it’s described in this article it sounds a lot like illegal imprisonment. Unable to leave a hotel room at all sure sounds like illegal imprisonment to me. Correct me if I’m wrong.

This has been quite a month. My son, his wife, and almost 14 1/2 month old grandson changed their vacation plans from Beijing to Maui at the first hint of trouble. They came on the first and my son had leave to return for work on the 15th. He’s a cop on the border of NY’s epicenter and their house is in Queens, not the best places to come home from or to, so his wife and son are staying here for the time being. Lots of fresh air, sunshine and there’s an uncrowded small beach a five minute walk across the road perfect for children so that’s a plus. Big change for me though, who lives alone, to have two additional generations added to the mix, albeit in a good way. The little guy and I have become best buddies and my daughter in law is more like a daughter every day. Going to miss them when they head home ... once I catch up on sleep.

Dang P210, that is some news that makes me sad. My daughter and her family lives there, just bought a house, and now they're going to lose it. FUCK

They have 48 cases in the state. No deaths.

Seems like an over reaction to me.

This will devastate the State's economy. I am sure they will blame the Trump economic policies.

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Originally posted by Hay2bale:
They have 48 cases in the state. No deaths.

Seems like an over reaction to me.

This will devastate the State's economy. I am sure they will blame the Trump economic policies.

If you were 2500 miles away from something bad and thought a financial hit was all it would take to protect your family perhaps you might think differently. The affected business concerns seem to be supportive for the most part and I’d expect them to be first to call bullshit otherwise. All I know is this will pass.

Without offering an opinion the merits of these measure, it would be interesting to see a court test with regards to the constitutionality of restrictions such as these. Freedom of movement is a fundamental right under the 5th Amendment and the Privileges and Immunities Clause, meaning any regulation will receive the highest level of scrutiny by the court. Restrictions must serve a compelling government interest and be narrowly tailored. It is a very tough test to pass, and I can easily see a argument that these restrictions are not narrowly tailored. States get a lot of leeway in emergency situations, but they do not have the power to violate the US Constitution.

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Originally posted by Hay2bale:
They have 48 cases in the state. No deaths.

Seems like an over reaction to me.

This will devastate the State's economy. I am sure they will blame the Trump economic policies.

I read somewhere the panic from this will have more devastating affects than the virus itself...

Most (if not all) states have public health laws that are over 100 years old, allowing enforced quarantines. Think back to TB control, measles, etc. They've long since passed court scrutiny.

I might not like the application, but I doubt it'd be ruled unconstitutional.

Just another democrat governor doing his part to decimate his state's economy. They are forcing everyone to look to the government for everything they need in life. Like a member said earlier, this is a liberal's wet dream.

I really don't see how the economy of Hawaii can survive this.

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Originally posted by P210:
a financial hit was all it would take

It's financial suicide, not a 'hit'.

These GDCs are trying to outdo one another. Ooh, look at us, the toughest.

Lots of governors showing delusions of grandeur lately.

I'm surprised the courts aren't full of court cases already.

There are options open to islands and other limited access areas, that are not open to areas on the grid. That is on the plus side. On the minus side, they are pretty far away from help, should they be overwhelmed. So they are, IMO correctly, being conservative.

The Outer Banks's Dare county locked down last week, too. Not accessible except by very few roads, over a small number of bridges. Not many hospitals there, either. No visitors, not even property owners who live elsewhere, are allowed in now: Dare County: Additional restrictions imposed

If you think this is a game, check out New York. When there is talk about shortages of respirators, and medical ethicists talking about the ethics of respirator shortages - how best to rationalize pulling a respirator off one patient to try to save a patient with a better prognosis - ethics committee decision, lottery, .... - yeah, here right here in the US: WSJ 3/20/20: interviews with medical ethicists on NY State preparation of respirator triage report being prepared

Shit is real. Believe it's media hype or a power grab if you like. It's all fun and games till they yank your uncle off the respirator keeping him alive, to use it on a healthier millennial based on a committee decision, or on another, luckier oldster based on a lottery.

Personally, I think the remoter areas are being wise in trying to avoid their health care systems being put in that sort of situation.

Whether or not it would pass Constitutional muster is kind of moot. One would have to challenge it. By the time it would even see the desk of a judge it would likely get tossed out and this will all have been over anyway.

Not sure I'd want to visit there anyway. If all the bars and restaurants are closed, it might be a sparse vacation.

We flew home from Hawaii 21 days ago. Glad we got out when we did.

The sunny side of this may well be old style Democrat liberals, who are now considered right wing, will join with us to vote the constitution haters out.

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Originally posted by RHINOWSO:

It's financial suicide, not a 'hit'.

And damned deliberate is what it looks like to me.

The greatest economy of our lifetime destroyed in a matter of weeks. And as it happens, it is occurring when we have in the White House the most hated and FEARED President by the left during an election year.

Welcome to the Green Flu Deal. Basically cutting off flights and travel to Hawaii. Isn't this exactly what Dummy AOC and that imbecile Hirono wanted? Well, looks like they're getting it.

I didn't want to bring in politics, but these things are quite political anyway. Besides, politics are already in the thread.

I find it somewhat ironic that these (D) states like HI, NY, CA, were all crowing, just a few months ago, about how it would be impossible to stop immigration, with or without a wall. We shouldn't even try, they said. We shouldn't even have a border, and certainly not a border patrol, they said. Immigrants were just looking for a better life, they said. We should be compassionate and let them have access to our resources, they said. Doesn't all of these things apply to U.S. citizens trying to get to their homes, or perhaps leave, any particular area?

Now here we are, and these same states have implemented lockdowns in a matter of days. Hawaii, one of the most 'liberal' states in the nation, has now closed itself off from even its own citizens who are trying to return home. How does this jive with their earlier stance? Of course we all know the answer; they were perfectly fine with the virtue signaling when it was esoteric to their own lives, but when the threat is more local, all of a sudden they get draconian.

I'm making no judgement about Hawaii's course of action, for these are unique times. However, it does go to show a certain amount of hypocrisy, and that the perfidy of the left knows no limits.

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Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:
And damned deliberate is what it looks like to me.

The greatest economy of our lifetime destroyed in a matter of weeks. And as it happens, it is occurring when we have in the White House the most hated and FEARED President by the left during an election year.

POTUS is smart, he's letting them do it to themselves; a national lockdown would be at his feet.