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You shoot to stop the threat. Once the bad guy is incapacitated, a head shot becomes murder.

-Rob


Maybe in America you shoot to stop the threat (for LEGAL reasons only), but in combat zones and high-crime areas you shoot to KILL. That stupid ass that attacked that guy in the OP video has a history of this activity. If that type of vermin was killed more often in our nation, the crime rate would drop by a huge magnitude.
 
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I just realized the instigator bit his tongue in half, likely because of the kicks to his head. It's lying next to his right ear and is the source of the blood around his mouth.

There is no way he survived that level of beating. Maybe in America, but not in a Brazilian favela.





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I guess I'm just a bad person, then.
 
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This was me in 1991.
I was walking to lunch when a mugger slammed me into a brick wall.
I saw tweety birds as I balled up on the sidewalk.
As the mugger was trying to get into my pockets I got one eye open and could see his throat.
With my right fist i struck at him as hard as I could and I hit a home run.
He fell back off of me and I slowly stumbled up and pushed him over, straddled him and went to beating the shit out of his face as he gasped for air.
I have a crooked right pinky finger from hitting him and breaking it. I have a scar on my left hand knuckle from his teeth.
But the worst is when I saw I was drawing a crowd I got to my feet and kicked him in the head.
His arms went up just like that man.
I can still see his face and the emptiness of his face to this day.

It's all funny until you have to be the one that really hurts someone.
I hope the man I had to stop is ok. I'm no monster.





He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster.
 
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This was me in 1991.
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You did what needed doing to protect yourself, no more, no less.

As for your attacker, if he'd kicked you in the head, I seriously doubt he would have had an instant of remorse. The hell with him.





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Hilarious

Get some help, man
 
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Brutal. We can argue forever whether the response by the intended victim was justified, but there is no question that death is always a potential consequence for anyone who commits a violent crime and ought to be a strong deterrent.
 
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I understand both sides,except for the hilarious response, but I wonder if the bad guy would feel the same if it was the other way around? I have seen some pretty brutal scenes of innocent people being victimized,only to see the perpetrator look on without remorse. We live in sad times.
 
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A really good example of being careful of what you start. You don't always get to choose how it ends.
 
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I hope the man I had to stop is ok. I'm no monster.


OK or not, you are as far as east is to west from monster.




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10 kicks to the head, after 3 punches and an asphalt pillow landing. The kicks were brutal enough to spin the guy 180 degrees on a street surface. Some of the kicks were stomps on the head with the street preventing movement.

The last nine kicks were not for self-defense. Pulling out his phone to record the last few kicks is like a snuff film. A grisly ending, rather sickening. More than likely the guy did not live.



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Dale Carnegie said to speak in a language your audience understands.

Jeff Cooper said:
"One bleeding-heart type asked me in a recent interview if I did not agree that 'violence begets violence.' I told him that it is my earnest endeavor to see that it does. I would like very much to ensure - and in some cases I have - that any man who offers violence to his fellow citizen begets a whole lot more in return than he can enjoy."

Also:
"The proper solution to armed robbery is a dead robber, on the scene."

Lastly:
"Observe your cat. It is difficult to surprise him. Why? Naturally his superior hearing is part of the answer, but not all of it. He moves well, using his senses fully. He is not preoccupied with irrelevancies. He's not thinking about his job or his image or his income tax. He is putting first things first, principally his physical security. Do likewise."


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I hope the man I had to stop is ok. I'm no monster.


OK or not, you are as far as east is to west from monster.


I hope I never have to do it again.
Within a month of this, my first wife was taken too.
I can't be in crowds, I can't be in a restroom that I can't lock the door.
And when we have company, even MY company, I retreat.
And Mrs SC give me grief for abandoning my guests.





He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster.
 
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Defend, sufficient force/violence to stop threat, retreat.

Anything beyond crosses a line, doesn’t it?

It’s not the movies. Hey just for giggles, why not split his head in half like a melon with the nearest brick, just for good measure?

The voyeurism is really bothersome to me.



RB

Cancer fighter (Non-Hodgkins Lymphoma) since 2009, now fighting Diffuse Large B-Cell Lymphoma.


 
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Am I crazy to believe that applying first aid, to even a perp, is the right thing to do!
 
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A significant number of us here view the kicking after the dude was down as abhorrent.
Ok, I get that. But consider this: Lets say our victim walked away and did not finish his attacker off. You think our robber would find this a transformative event and join the Clergy? Or will he just immediately kill his next victim, using his previous experience as a learning tool?
Does society and community actually benefit from the moral high ground here?
Here is a war story: There was this cop who came home off duty and found his apartment being burglarized. Burglar was now in possession of cops loaded pump 12GA. Burglar runs, carrying shotgun. Cop chases. At one point, during chase, burglar falls downs and loses grip on shotgun, but it is still in reach. Cop finds himself standing over prone burglar, 1911 ready to go at a no miss distance.
Cop wants to do the right thing, so he holsters up and jumps on the burglar to cuff. Fight ensues and burglar gets the upper hand and escapes.
Think its over? Nope! Local cops quickly ID burglar and begins a man hunt for him. The cop is often updated on the status of the hunt and learns:
Burglar breaks into elderly ladies home, duct tapes her to a chair and tortures her to get her to reveal if there is cash in the home. She initially survives, but dies in a nursing home several weeks later. Then burglar breaks into the home of the cops jail booking officer. Frustrated about finding nothing of value to steal, burglar set fire to the house and burns it to the ground. Several other offenses occur before the locals catch up to and incarcerates burglar.
Who lives the aftermath of all this, especially the death of the elderly lady? Not the burglar. The cop does. He did what was fully expected of him and a life was lost and damage done. If the event could be re-lived, there would have been a double tap from the 1911.
I hope all of you who advocate the high road can stay on that road. It can be hard to navigate sometimes.


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A significant number of us here view the kicking after the dude was down as abhorrent.
Ok, I get that. But consider this: Lets say our victim walked away and did not finish his attacker off. You think our robber would find this a transformative event and join the Clergy? Or will he just immediately kill his next victim, using his previous experience as a learning tool?
Does society and community actually benefit from the moral high ground here?
Here is a war story: There was this cop who came home off duty and found his apartment being burglarized. Burglar was now in possession of cops loaded pump 12GA. Burglar runs, carrying shotgun. Cop chases. At one point, during chase, burglar falls downs and loses grip on shotgun, but it is still in reach. Cop finds himself standing over prone burglar, 1911 ready to go at a no miss distance.
Cop wants to do the right thing, so he holsters up and jumps on the burglar to cuff. Fight ensues and burglar gets the upper hand and escapes.
Think its over? Nope! Local cops quickly ID burglar and begins a man hunt for him. The cop is often updated on the status of the hunt and learns:
Burglar breaks into elderly ladies home, duct tapes her to a chair and tortures her to get her to reveal if there is cash in the home. She initially survives, but dies in a nursing home several weeks later. Then burglar breaks into the home of the cops jail booking officer. Frustrated about finding nothing of value to steal, burglar set fire to the house and burns it to the ground. Several other offenses occur before the locals catch up to and incarcerates burglar.
Who lives the aftermath of all this, especially the death of the elderly lady? Not the burglar. The cop does. He did what was fully expected of him and a life was lost and damage done. If the event could be re-lived, there would have been a double tap from the 1911.
I hope all of you who advocate the high road can stay on that road. It can be hard to navigate sometimes.


It’s not my place to execute someone.



RB

Cancer fighter (Non-Hodgkins Lymphoma) since 2009, now fighting Diffuse Large B-Cell Lymphoma.


 
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I think that we all must live by, and with our own code. "Many who live deserve to die, and many who are dead deserve to live". I just do my best and leave those things to a higher power.
 
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The kicks were excessive after the first one or two to make sure he's out of the fight.
 
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To clarify, I took no joy in watching that guy get downgraded to “vegetable at best,” but I also had little sympathy. I’ve seen enough videos from that area code that end with unarmed good guys getting murdered in front of friends and family that I have little doubt the vegetable would have pulled the trigger on a live gun with live ammo if he’d had the equipment with him.

That’s a whole other reality down there in the favelas. Like the thread about North Sentinel Island, other places are dangerous, have their own rules, and we can’t properly appreciate the context from our cozy little corner.

It’s only when we have thread about our police shooting people that so many are quick to chime in “don’t MMQB unless you’ve worn a badge” but we know nothing at all about this situation other than one dude walked away and the other was left shuddering and bleeding. Maybe the dude that got attacked had his life nearly ended before in such a brutal beating, or a family member killed in a robbery? Maybe the attacker was known to him somehow? We don’t know.

It’s not what I would have done, but hey, different culture, different everything.


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