Congressman John Ratcliffe has read the unredacted FISA warrants against Carter Page.

He says the warrants were centered around the Steele dossier.

His video interview here:

https://video.foxnews.com/v/60...903001#sp=show-clips

reminder:

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I don't know if we will ever know why Flynn confessed to lying. (Unless it is the wide spread theory that the rabid dog Mueller Team broke him financially and threatened to prosecute his son).

That is exact strategy used numerous times by many of the lawyers on Mueeler's staff and the Holder/Lynch Just Us Department.

I started reading Vol II of the Mueller Report

This is ugly. So many people say Mueller is an honorable person, war hero, honest and interested in justice.

Bullshit.

Mueller is as much a part of the conspiracy to overturn the 2016 election as Comey and McCabe. The FBI/DoJ did far more to interfere in the presidential election than the Russians ever did. And they are still working their game plan.

As you read what Vol II says, keep in mind that President Trump knew he was innocent from the beginning. His actions were those of a man wrongly being investigated and knowing that key individuals in FBI/DoJ/intel lied to him and were trying to trap him. No wonder he was angry and frustrated.



Maybe I missed it but I didn't see in Rosenstein's tasking letters to Mueller any mention of "obstruction". Much of that tasking has never been revealed.

adding: the SC tasking letter did reference the SC regulation that included addressing any "obstruction" issues. So Mueller did have jurisdiction for obstruction

McCabe said he opened an obstruction case against the President the day after Comey was fired






"potentially preempt constitutional processes ..." Sounds like an invite for impeachment

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I am going to keep posting Vol II in pieces so any one post isn't too much to digest.





setting up for an option of a later prosecution of the President ?

BTW, as a heads up, Mueller's Vol II "evidence" is even bigger horse crap than Vol I "evidence"





because Mueller has been so concerned re "public name calling" for 2 years ?



That's how Vol II starts off. Next will be a summary of the 11 items that Mueller focused on.

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Maybe I missed it but I didn't see in Rosenstein's tasking letters to Mueller any mention of "obstruction". Much of that tasking has never been revealed.

Yeah forget the report, I want to know what started the investigation and what he was initially asked to investigate as well as any times he was asked to widen the net and look for additional crimes. As a side, it's awfully strange for a election collusion investigation to lead to tax and bank fraud for an attorney of thetarget, especially when it's a congressionally appointed special counsel?

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Originally posted by sdy:

[i]setting up for an option of a later prosecution of the President ?

Sounds like blackmail.


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Pages 215 to 218 of the Mueller Report address an executive summary of the key issues for Vol II.

These are the issues that Mueller looked at regarding possible obstruction of justice by President Trump.

#1



A lot of people have wondered who hacked the DEM Party since they refused to let the FBI examine their servers.

The President had concerns that reports of Russia election interference might lead to questions of the legitimacy of his election. The president very reasonably had huge concerns that lies being spread over major media every single day tried to link him to working w Russia to steal the election. The media almost had it right, but it was Clinton working w Russia thru Fusion GPS that tried to influence the election.

#2



The notes from Comey present one side of the story. Comey was a prime player in the conspiracy to frame Donald Trump.

With the information now available to us, it is highly likely that Flynn was set up. Flynn should have been "let go" and the FBI and Sally Yates shouldn't have trapped him.

Remember Comey's words: "Something we’ve, I probably wouldn’t have done or maybe gotten away with in a more organized investigation, a more organized administration." “So if the FBI wanted to send agents into the White House itself to interview a senior official, you would work through the White House counsel and there would be discussions and approvals and it would be there. I thought, ‘It’s early enough, let’s just send a couple of guys over.’”

Flynn had no idea the FBI was investigating him during the January 2017 interview. Andrew McCabe advised Flynn not to have a lawyer present because that would slow things down

Flynn had been in his new role for 4 days.

#3



Where to begin ?

It was absurd for Sessions to recuse himself.

Indeed the President should have an AG who would protect against lies and a multiagency conspiracy to frame the President

Hard to believe Mueller considers "obstruction" from Donald Trump attempts to get the truth out. Trump wanted to dispel the suggestion that he had any connection to Russian election interference.

And Mueller concluded there was no Trump connection. But then Mueller uses the President's attempts to get the truth to the American people as "obstruction" of Mueller's investigation.

Is this as bizarre and illogical as it seems ?

Donald Trump wanted to obstruct the criminal conspiracy being executed against him.

continuing the list of Mueller items re "obstruction".

This list is important because it is Mueller's road map for the DEMs to pursue impeachment

#4



President Trump fired Comey because Comey was a snake.

President Trump says "this thing with Trump and Russia is a made up story". And Mueller considers telling the truth "obstruction"

The President says "I want that thing to be absolutely done properly". And Mueller considers that to be obstruction.

This is a series of posts laying out Mueller's 11 items that are the basis of an "obstruction of justice" claim against President Trump.

Items 1-4 have been covered. Items 5-11 remain.

Ann Coulter pointed out this from page 221 of the Mueller Report:

"An improper motive can render an actor's conduct criminal even when the conduct would otherwise be lawful and within the actor's authority"

What a gift to Jerry Nadler, Adam Schiff, and Elijah Cummings. Even if President Trump acted within his authority, they can make up claims about his motive and charge him.

#5



In June 2017 the media reported Mueller was investigating obstruction of justice. How did they find out ? Rosenstein's letter didn't mention obstruction. McCabe secretly started an obstruction investigation on 10 May 2017, but that was not part of Mueller's tasking letter

Comey had told Donald Trump he was not under investigation. That was a lie. The counterintel op that started 31 July 2016 was targeted at Donald Trump. Let's not play word games that it targeted the "Trump campaign".

A innocent Donald Trump acted in anger at being falsely investigated.

What was the 14 June 2017 news report? Good old Wash Post and the FBI's favorite reporter Devlin Barrett. Their favorite reporter to leak to. Mueller didn't mention that Andrew McCabe is under investigation for leaking to this same Devlin Barrett.



https://www.washingtonpost.com...m_term=.e4429ed80e45

Special counsel is investigating Trump for possible obstruction of justice, officials say


but the Mueller team never leaked ?

Several bloggers have theorized that very early in Mueller's investigation he realized the collusion/coordination was an empty well. The speculation is that in June 2017 his focus switched to "obstruction". Others have thought it took him to Dec 2017 to figure out collusion wasn't going to take down President Trump.

#6 on Mueller obstruction list





So President Trump:

- thought the Mueller investigation was very unfair. (what an understatement)

- thought he had done nothing wrong (he hadn't)

- and he wanted Sessions to tell Mueller to address meddling in future elections

That is obstruction of justice ?

not to derail this thread- but I now wonder what sort of crap they pulled for 2012. Can't imagine they cooked all this up just for 2016. what was their practice run in 2012?

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not to derail this thread- but I now wonder what sort of crap they pulled for 2012. Can't imagine they cooked all this up just for 2016. what was their practice run in 2012?

I think if this stone is turned over, we'll find that Organizing for America illegally pulled info out of the NSA.

Connect the dots - NSA phone surveillance data base (maybe now being dropped
https://theconservativetreehou...program/#more-162925)

and FISA-702(16) and (17) searches with Maxine Waters in 2013:

"The President has put in place an organization with the kind of database that no one has ever seen before in life. That’s going to be very, very powerful. That database will have information about everything on every individual on ways that it’s never been done before and whoever runs for President on the Democratic ticket has to deal with that. They’re going to go down with that database and the concerns of those people because they can’t get around it. And he’s [President Obama] been very smart. It’s very powerful what he’s leaving in place.”

https://www.conservativeinstit...s-obama-database.htm

Mueller wanted to play the bully. Mueller didn't get to play the bully because Trump was willing to fight back. Mueller now wants payback for having been grossly affronted by not getting to play the bully.

#7 on Mueller obstruction list



The 9 June 2016 Trump tower mtg once again. The mtg where Trump Jr was set up.

President Trump learned that media outlets were asking about this mtg.

What media ? This time it was the other FBI favorite leak machine. The NYT.

From 8 july 2017

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/0...ushner-manafort.html

Trump Team Met With Lawyer Linked to Kremlin During Campaign

Two weeks after Donald J. Trump clinched the Republican presidential nomination last year, his eldest son arranged a meeting at Trump Tower in Manhattan with a Russian lawyer who has connections to the Kremlin, according to confidential government records described to The New York Times.

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Remember, the Mueller Team "never leaked"

#8



President Trump: "I just want to be treated fairly"

And that is what put him at odds with Mueller attack dog prosecutors

What else was happening in early summer 2017 ?

DoJ IG Horowitz was investigating Andrew McCabe for lying under oath about leaking to the WSJ.

Horowitz was also telling Mueller about the Peter Strzok / Lisa Page texts.

And then a bit later, Mueller fired Strzok who was the lead FBI investigator on Mueller's team.

Don't fight back Mr President; that would be obstruction. Just let the rabid dogs attack without mercy.

Paul Sperry
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BREAKING: FBI agents Joe Pientka and Mike Gaeta, along with DOJ official Stu Evans, are figuring prominently as witnesses in IG Horowitz's investigation of department FISA abuses. The findings in the forthcoming IG report are said to be "devastating."

11:36 AM - 25 Apr 2019

https://twitter.com/paulsperry...estigations-begin%2F

Agent Gaeta was reported to be the FBI agent who flew to London on 5 July 2016 and was briefed by Christopher Steele on what Steele had collected in the first few weeks of his "research" against Donald Trump.

Gaeta might have been Steele's handler while Steele was a confidential human source for the FBI.

Agent Pientka was reported to be the other agent who interviewed Michael Flynn (along w Peter Strzok)

Pientka was also reported to be the FBI point of contact for Bruce Ohr as Christopher Steele passed info to the FBI thru Ohr.

I hope Horowitz rocks their world.

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The findings in the forthcoming IG report are said to be "devastating."

Oooh, intriguing!

Lordy, what a sordid web that has been weaved by a cast of immoral people.

Thanks, sdy, for wading through it all.