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Perkins Coie turning on Sussman and Elias would be very helpful to Durham.

I'm a bit mixed up - did Joffe go through Neustar to get the data that was turned over to Georgia Tech?
 
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Thanks for doing all this research SDY, and providing us with a synopsis. This is very helpful.


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did Joffe go through Neustar to get the data that was turned over to Georgia Tech?


Joffe retired Sep 2021

Rodney Joffe was Neustar Senior Vice President, Security CTO, and Fellow
Mar 2019 to Sep 2021

Joffe was Neustar Senior VP, Senior Technologist, and Fellow
2006 to Mar 2019

It is not clear (at least to me) what database(s) Georgia Tech used.

From the indictment:

Joffe "had exploited his access to non-public data at multiple Internet companies to conduct opposition research concerning Trump"

and

Joffe had enlisted the assistance of researchers at a U.S based university who were receiving and analyzing Internet data in connection w a pending federal govt cybersecurity research contract.

in the indictment it doesn't say "Joffe", it says "Tech Executive-1"
 
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I am not sure if this is related to where the information was obtained but this statement from DARPA was interesting (via chuck Ross twitter).

 
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^^^ DARPA? Here's hoping the bad guys didn't have the foresight to recruit or stash someone there.
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Joffe "had exploited his access to non-public data at multiple Internet companies to conduct opposition research concerning Trump"

Thanks, sdy. That fits with your theory, which is what I guess I was asking about.
 
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from the NYT article on page 155

The involvement of the researchers traces back to the spring of 2016. Darpa, the Pentagon’s research funding agency, wanted to commission data scientists to develop the use of so-called DNS logs, records of when servers have prepared to communicate with other servers over the internet, as a tool for hacking investigations.

"Darpa identified Georgia Tech as a potential recipient of funding and encouraged researchers there to develop examples. Mr. Antonakakis and Mr. Dagon reached out to Mr. Joffe to gain access to Neustar’s repository of DNS logs, people familiar with the matter said, and began sifting them."
 
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John Durham couldn't come to a conclusion "investigating" a shoplifter caught on 16 cameras at a convenience store and with the stolen merchandise sticking out of their pockets. I am sick and tired of hearing about the "investigation" of this do-nothing phony. He's just another clumsy, compromised Washington bureaucrat. Dog shit on the bottom of my shoe would make a better investigator.

He's snagged one or two people, out of the hundreds if not thousands involved in criminal activity related to trying to take down a sitting president. He needs to investigate the inside of a live volcano.
From now on, when I hear about some bureaucrat launching an investigation, and I hear people praising that person as "one of the most capable, honest people in Washington" I'm just going to think "Well, here comes another halfwit loser, burning up taxpayer dollars and wasting a couple of years doing it."

When we were waiting and waiting for this guy to finally present results to the American people, we kept hearing the excuse "Oh, investigations like this are very complex and Mr. Durham is extremely thorough."

Horse.

Shit.

He's just another slimeball in the swamp.
 
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I stopped following this case intently a few years ago and just follow it tangentially now. I don't think I can describe how mad I was on 5 July 2016 when Comey stood up and said Hillary would not be indicted. I was on vacation, the girl and the little one was playing in the pool out back. I stepped inside to refresh my drink and watch the press briefing. I fully expected Comey to tell America why she broke the law and list the DOJ indictments against her. I really did. I believed all the BS I had heard about Comey and I believed the rule of law would triumph. I believed the FBI was an organization dedicated to truth and justice. Boy I could not have been more wrong.

Comey let her off he hook. So pathetic. Like many on this forum I understand the laws regarding classified information. I have dealt with them all my adult life. I know beyond a shadow of a doubt she violated those laws. Violations that would have sent me or anybody else to jail for a LONG time. I BELIEVED justice would prevail. Boy did my whole life’s worldview come crashing down.

But she and her minions went free. A harbinger of things to come.

Fast forward to the Russian conspiracy. It also involved Hillary (imagine that). Once again, the narrative turns out false. And once again multiple people lied under oath (McCabe among others) and no one faces consequences. The FBI, as it turns out, not only botched the investigation they actively lied to perpetrate it (lied to the FISA court). They were not an organization devoted to truth and justice after all. They are an organization devoted to protecting the State, not the Constitution. The IG even recommended charges for McCabe and Comey. Were they pursued? Of course not.

Speaking of criminal referrals, what about all of the referrals from the republicans in congress? The Kavanaugh confirmation, where people lied to the FBI and congressional investigators (illegal, BTW), what is the status of those?

I am 48 years old and spent my entire adult life believing in Truth, Justice, and The American Way. Now I don’t give a fuck. They’re all corrupt. It's all garbage.
 
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Now I don’t give a ....


A lot of that going around these days.




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I stopped following this case intently a few years ago and just follow it tangentially now. I don't think I can describe how mad I was on 5 July 2016 when Comey stood up and said Hillary would not be indicted. I was on vacation, the girl and the little one was playing in the pool out back. I stepped inside to refresh my drink and watch the press briefing. I fully expected Comey to tell America why she broke the law and list the DOJ indictments against her. I really did. I believed all the BS I had heard about Comey and I believed the rule of law would triumph. I believed the FBI was an organization dedicated to truth and justice. Boy I could not have been more wrong.

Comey let her off he hook. So pathetic. Like many on this forum I understand the laws regarding classified information. I have dealt with them all my adult life. I know beyond a shadow of a doubt she violated those laws. Violations that would have sent me or anybody else to jail for a LONG time. I BELIEVED justice would prevail. Boy did my whole life’s worldview come crashing down.

But she and her minions went free. A harbinger of things to come.

Fast forward to the Russian conspiracy. It also involved Hillary (imagine that). Once again, the narrative turns out false. And once again multiple people lied under oath (McCabe among others) and no one faces consequences. The FBI, as it turns out, not only botched the investigation they actively lied to perpetrate it (lied to the FISA court). They were not an organization devoted to truth and justice after all. They are an organization devoted to protecting the State, not the Constitution. The IG even recommended charges for McCabe and Comey. Were they pursued? Of course not.

Speaking of criminal referrals, what about all of the referrals from the republicans in congress? The Kavanaugh confirmation, where people lied to the FBI and congressional investigators (illegal, BTW), what is the status of those?

I am 48 years old and spent my entire adult life believing in Truth, Justice, and The American Way. Now I don’t give a fuck. They’re all corrupt. It's all garbage.


Great post. Concur. This is me living through the disastrous AFG withdraw after spending 9 deployments and a huge chunk of my life there. I’m sick of being led by liars.
 
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Repeatedly is seems as though we are paralleling what the French went through, just before their revolution.


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#1 Not going to argue w "I don't give a damn" positions. Plenty of reasons to feel that way. But that is not my position. I am waiting to see how the Durhan investigation unfolds. The Sussmann indictment opened a lot of doors and the Russian Alfa bank defamation lawsuits are ongoing and revealing info for Durham. The fact Marc Elias has left Perkins Coie is a big deal to me. More as things unfold.

#2 Adam Schiff has written a book. Part of the early review includes how he felt about the Mueller testimony.

the reality was "heartbreaking" to Schiff when Mueller struggled to answer basic questions.

"Had I known how much he had changed, I would not have pursued his testimony with such vigor — in fact, I would not have pursued it at all,"

Schiff instructed Democrats on the committee to simplify their questioning strategy after the first session to accommodate Mueller's cognitive inhibitions.

"No questions calling for a narrative answer,"
"No multipart questions. If you think your question may be too long, it is. Cut it down."

sounds familiar. Let's Go Brandon
 
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I am waiting to see how the Durhan investigation unfolds.
We've been waiting for a very long time. Durham should have to write a check to the Treasury to put back all the taxpayer money he has wasted.
 
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I honestly believe these empty suit investigators stall hoping, J Q public simply forgets there was ever an investigation!
 
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Most of the people named in the Sussmann indictment are getting caught in a crossfire.

Besides Durham, the Alfa Bank team is also taking depositions from these same people.

Manos Antonakakis is a Georgia Tech professor. He lives in Atlanta GA. He has received a subpoena to surrender documents related to the Alfa case and communications w Rodney Joffe, April Lorenzen, and David Dagon.




Rodney Joffe and David Dagon are also being deposed by Alfa Bank
 
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George Stephanopoulos has done his first documentary - "Out of the Shadows" an interview w Christopher Steele about the dossier

The trailers looks like they are going to sell the dossier as legit.

hard to believe. But when you own the media, all things are possible.

video at :

https://twitter.com/i/status/1448636773802860553

makes me want to vomit
 
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not a good day

https://www.npr.org/2021/10/14...t&utm_medium=twitter

The Justice Department has agreed to restore full law enforcement benefits and provide some attorney fees for former FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe, who was fired by the Trump administration only hours before his retirement three years ago.

The settlement will resolve a civil lawsuit filed by McCabe, who argued that his ouster was the result of a "years-long public vendetta" driven by the former president.

The Justice Department demoted and then dismissed him on the eve of his 50th birthday in March 2018, when his FBI annuity would have vested.

"I think the message that you get loud and clear from the terms of the settlement is that this never should have happened," McCabe said. "It feels like complete vindication, because that's what it is."

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they had McCabe nailed. He lied more than once to FBI investigators. pretty depressing
 
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I honestly believe these empty suit investigators stall hoping, J Q public simply forgets there was ever an investigation!

Forget? I'd bet 95% of the people could not tell you who John Durham is much less there was ever an investigation into anything.


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I called McCabe getting that back years ago. As soon as he filed his lawsuit I said he's just waiting for a democratic administration. Boom! His wish is fulfilled. Pension restored.

You can make a good living in this country being a communist. And since the laws don't apply to you you never have to worry about breaking them!
 
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https://www.npr.org/2021/10/14...t&utm_medium=twitter

The Justice Department has agreed to restore full law enforcement benefits and provide some attorney fees for former FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe, who was fired by the Trump administration only hours before his retirement three years ago.

The settlement will resolve a civil lawsuit filed by McCabe, who argued that his ouster was the result of a "years-long public vendetta" driven by the former president.

The Justice Department demoted and then dismissed him on the eve of his 50th birthday in March 2018, when his FBI annuity would have vested.

"I think the message that you get loud and clear from the terms of the settlement is that this never should have happened," McCabe said. "It feels like complete vindication, because that's what it is."

xxxxxxxxxx

they had McCabe nailed. He lied more than once to FBI investigators. pretty depressing


The system is rotten to the core. Look how General Flynn was treated. There are two systems of Justice in this country.


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