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Woke idiots.

“Highly-processed foods should be reclassified as drugs because they are as addictive and harmful as cigarettes, scientists argue.
Researchers claim items like donuts, sugary cereals and pizza meet the meet official criteria that established cigarettes as a drug in the 1990s.

These include causing compulsive use and mood altering affects on the brain, and properties that reinforce addiction and trigger cravings.

Ultra processed foods - which also include things like soda, chips, pastries and candies - contain high amounts of unnatural flavors, preservatives and sweeteners. …”

DailyMail article:
https://mol.im/a/11413339



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My name is YooperSigs and I am a pizzaholic.


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I don't think it's actually a 'woke' thing, but there's NO question that 'Highly Processed Foods' are BAD for you! The researchers findings re: the 'compulsive use and mood altering affects on the brain, and properties that reinforce addiction and trigger cravings ' are VERY real. High amounts of unnatural flavors, preservatives and sweeteners are NOT good for your health, and it's quite evidenced by the relative health/fitness (or apparent lack thereof) of a vast portion of the population!

Let's start with some 'common sense high fructose corn syrup control' and work from there... Wink


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Yep sugar doesn't discriminate on politics, race, sex, gender, it messes with everyone....
 
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It's not pizza's fault. Pizzas don't have to be "highly processed foods" loaded with "unnatural flavors, preservatives and sweeteners".

I routinely make pizza from scratch with like a dozen simple ingredients:

-Olive oil
-Tomatoes
-Mozarella cheese
-Flour
-Yeast
-Salt
-Pepper
-Garlic
-Rosemary
-Basic
-Oregano
-Red pepper

Then just top with the additional veggies and proteins of your choice, none of which have to be HPFs either.
 
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^^^You can make most of the foods 'demonized' by the article from scratch using natural ingredients and there's NOTHING wrong with eating them as they're NOT innately unhealthy. Just remember, 'Everything in Moderation'... Wink


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Woke idiots.


No, I think they're on the money with this one. Woke has nothing to do with this. We're not evolved to eat this shit, especially in the quantities we do. Look at any film or any pictures of people from the 50's, 60's, and 70's and the average physique has changed radically. The two major changes are that the government and food industries started heavily pushing carbs, specifically corn and corn syrup in the late 70's and early 80's, and that everything we eat is processed with and stored in plastics. Carbs and sugar are major bad for the body and mind. I don't think pizza needs to fit in this category, but the chain stuff that's processed everything certainly does. Chips and donuts, absolutely. Mind you, I love all that stuff and I know it's horrible for me. You can kill yourself binging on sweets and carbs as surely as you can alcohol, heroin or meth.


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I’ve been eating “highly processed” foods, e.g., Spam, canned chili, potato chips, Triscuits, for 80+ years. Still scooting along.

As for classifying them as drugs… Roll Eyes



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Originally posted by RogueJSK:
It's not pizza's fault. Pizzas don't have to be "highly processed foods" loaded with "unnatural flavors, preservatives and sweeteners".

I routinely make pizza from scratch with like a dozen simple ingredients:

-Olive oil
-Tomatoes
-Mozarella cheese
-Flour
-Yeast
-Salt
-Pepper
-Garlic
-Rosemary
-Basic
-Oregano
-Red pepper

Then just top with the additional veggies and proteins of your choice, none of which have to be HPFs either.


Flour is highly processed. It basically gives your body pure sugar. Insulin spike plus calories equals fat storage. It’s not the worst thing out there but pizza is far from healthy.




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American male population testosterone levels have been dropping 10% every decade for several decades now. Is it plastic, is it the water, is it the food?

There is no food at the grocery store.

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Decline in Serum Testosterone Levels Among Adolescent and Young Adult Men in the USA
Soum D Lokeshwar et al. Eur Urol Focus. 2021 Jul.

Abstract

Testosterone deficiency has a prevalence of 20% among adolescent and young adult (AYA) males. Although previous studies have shown that total testosterone (TT) levels are declining in the population compared to prior decades, no study has identified TT level trends for AYA males specifically. Using data from the National Health and Nutrition Examination Surveys, we investigated TT levels for 4045 men from 1999 to 2016. After controlling for confounders, we found that mean TT levels declined over time: TT levels were lower in the later (2011-2016) than in the earlier (1999-2000) cycles (all p < 0.001). Elevated body mass index (BMI) was associated with lower TT, but the trend remained significant even among men with normal BMI. Limitations include the influence of confounding variables such as environmental factors and the use of differing assays for TT measurement. Further studies using other data streams are needed to validate these findings. PATIENT SUMMARY: In this report we looked at data for adolescent and young adult men in a US national database on total testosterone (TT) levels. There has been a decline in mean TT levels over the past two decades and TT is lower with progressively higher body mass index. We conclude that TT levels have been declining in young adult men in recent decades. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.go...0body%20mass%20index.





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I’ve been eating “highly processed” foods, e.g., Spam, canned chili, potato chips, Triscuits, for 80+ years. Still scooting along.

As for classifying them as drugs… Roll Eyes


Will say that for people born in the late 30s… Their longevity is extraordinary. Lucky you!

Those of us being born many decades later don’t have the same life expectancy.

You had real food for most of your life.

Dorito today is not the same thing that was made in the 90s, and certainly not the thing that was made in the 70s.





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Ultra processed foods should be regulated here the same as they are in Europe. Other places do get some things correct, this topic being one of them IMO.
 
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I sat through a presentation by a Dr Robert Lustig on sugar consumption and in his opinion, sugar is a dangerous drug equal to cocaine.



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People should understand that their digestive system is called glycolysis aka Krebs cycle. Anybody know what glucose is?

Try living without it.





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Originally posted by Pipe Smoker:
I’ve been eating “highly processed” foods, e.g., Spam, canned chili, potato chips, Triscuits, for 80+ years. Still scooting along.

As for classifying them as drugs… Roll Eyes

Triscuits are NOT highly processed at all, in fact they're quite the opposite, at least for the 'Original' Triscuits which have THREE Ingredients: Whole Grain Wheat, Canola Oil, Sea Salt!

Potato Chips don't have to be 'highly processed', and aren't as long as you avoid the flavored varieties with all the artificial flavors & sweeteners.

Regardless, if you read the Ingredient Label, and it seems like you need a Chemistry Degree to do so, then you probably shouldn't eat it! Wink


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donuts, sugary cereals and pizza

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soda, chips, pastries and candies

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Seriously, I do eat/drink these things, but not all the time.
 
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Ultra processed foods should be regulated here the same as they are in Europe. Other places do get some things correct, this topic being one of them IMO.


Why don't you enlighten us as to what you mean, Comrade? I don't see this regulation in Europe that you speak of.

Are you inferring the government should dictate what we are allowed to eat now? Roll Eyes


 
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Ultra processed foods should be regulated here the same as they are in Europe. Other places do get some things correct, this topic being one of them IMO.


Why don't you enlighten us as to what you mean, Comrade? I don't see this regulation in Europe that you speak of.

Are you inferring the government should dictate what we are allowed to eat now? Roll Eyes


Government has been dictating what we call “food “forever… Every hear of the USDA?

Do you know how many federal agencies regulate a chicken egg, farm to table? 7.

How about the definition of “hamburger” at McDonald’s on the menu? That’s regulated.

Where are you headed with this?





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