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The offer to ship, after explicitly stating that he wouldn't in his ad is suspicious. The mis-spelling of china (as in "fine china") is weird, as is saying that in general. Saying "kindly" twice is a bit weird in general conversation. The phone number as all one number, the lowercase on the address. All those little things stand out to me when taken as a whole, maybe not if there were only one or two things. | |||
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| The success of a solution usually depends upon your point of view |
Lighten up Francis. Nothing I posted was meant to imply that you are a scammer. if you took it that way then I am sorry that you misinterpreted my post. Taking this personally seems to be your go to move and I guess I failed to take that into account when I posted my response. I'll try to do better in the future. My point was to say that what you, as the seller, would consider a flag and what I, as the buyer, would consider a flag are not the same and I tried to explain what my viewpoint as a buyer was. Para started this thread to discuss the potential for scammers to operate in different ways and discussing what is or is not a red flag would normally be an intelligent part of that discussion. lets get back on track. “We truly live in a wondrous age of stupid.” - 83v45magna "I think it's important that people understand free speech doesn't mean free from consequences societally or politically or culturally." -Pranjit Kalita, founder and CIO of Birkoa Capital Management | |||
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I doubt parabellum will tip his hand. There are certain things that scammers do that eventually out them but we shouldn't let them know what's being looked for. Let's just be happy we're being protected here. | |||
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Is this the thread where you post cat pics? Seriously, thanks for the heads up on the scammer a-hole. Nothing sucks worse than getting ripped off. _______________________ “There is more stupidity than hydrogen in the universe, and it has a longer shelf life.” ― Frank Zappa | |||
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Agreed. And my post above certainly wasn't meant to speak for anyone here, just some things I noticed as one not involved in the transaction. | |||
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| Common sense is genius dressed in its working clothes |
Couldn't even do that right. LOL _______________________ “There is more stupidity than hydrogen in the universe, and it has a longer shelf life.” ― Frank Zappa | |||
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posting without pants |
Good catch. Damn scammer turds. Strive to live your life so when you wake up in the morning and your feet hit the floor, the devil says "Oh crap, he's up." | |||
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The random capitalized letters. The way the address is written and the phone number being in NC. The fact he put # after without a space. The fact he’s selling $1800 worth of shit for a grand “obo”. The fact he said he would not ship but never questioned me. The fact he put “semi automatic” in the thread title and “rifles”. The fact he says “kindly” multiple times. Honestly, using the word “kindly” is a super big flag. Just in general, it’s fishy as hell. I have experience with these assholes and his emails fit the parameters. I’ll say this though, he definitely could have gotten someone with this. I’ve certainly come across worse attempts.This message has been edited. Last edited by: bayoushooter, | |||
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Waiting for Hachiko |
Well, I thank you for being alert and your sixth sense. Many good folks in this forum to have it ruined by a small few. 美しい犬 | |||
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I had the same reaction...couldn’t put my finger on it exactly... "Violence, naked force, has settled more issues in history than has any other factor.” Robert A. Heinlein “You may beat me, but you will never win.” sigmonkey-2020 “A single round of buckshot to the torso almost always results in an immediate change of behavior.” Chris Baker | |||
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Same here. Something about his posts/statements was lacking when it came to interaction with others. His area code is NC (I think) but he claimed to be in PA. At one time that would have been a red flag, but I guess these days that's no big deal as people move and keep their old number. Zillow shows a nice house at the adress, so at least he found a real address for himself to use. I'm missing the part about how he would get the USPS money order if it went to a fake address. Maybe it's a 2 step process where the money order gets lost or something and he needs a quick payment via another method. not sure. . | |||
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Tinker Sailor Soldier Pie |
True. Never liked the gist of his gait. ~Alan Acta Non Verba NRA Life Member (Patron) God, Family, Guns, Country Men will fight and die to protect women... because women protect everything else. ~Andrew Klavan | |||
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bolo, It's all good. Some of the brutha's here like to jump on the pile. I am not one of them. Stick around and get to know us (the rest of us). Para will keep it all in line and you'll learn alot from some really nice and very smart guys...just like I have. I'm happy to post up any pics for you until you fiqure it out. It was a PIA when Photobucket pulled the plug and this forum was a buzz with guys like me who needed help figuing it out. How soon we forget... Risk the consequences of honesty... | |||
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"Kindly" is a huge red flag to me. Anytime I see that, 99% of the times it's a scam. Also foreign sounding English grammar is another.. hard to pin it but I can usually tell from the nuances of the message. | |||
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There are some rings of these guys operating on Armslist and Floridaguntrader. I am sure they've made the rounds at most of the larger gun forums as well. They have money mules in the U.S. who receive payment, cash the funds, and then wire it back out overseas. Some of them even have the mules take calls from prospective victims. They almost conned a friend of mine out of close to 3 grand for a pair of classic Pythons. He even spoke with someone on the phone in Texas. After he had spoken with the guy and mailed funds, he discovered that the pictures were copied from an old forum ad on a different website. Thankfully, he was able to intercept the money orders through the USPS before delivery happened. He's an experienced investigator for a federal law enforcement agency, and almost lost his rear end on that one deal. Some of these scammers are pretty sophisticated and know enough about how transfers work to be dangerous. What nearly happened to my friend was a serious wake up call for me. | |||
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| Nature is full of magnificent creatures |
Thank you, Para, for watching out for us, and Happy Thanksgiving to you and your family. | |||
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Obviously scammers and thieves are active 24/7/365 but I've noticed that there is an uptick in these types of scams starting around Thanksgiving and continuing through the Christmas and New Year's holidays. A couple years ago I was contacted by a forum member that I believe to be a scammer and his first email was the day before Thanksgiving and I had a series of infrequent and strange emails from him as well as other unknown emails through the holidays. | |||
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Another giveaway? What American ever says “tin”? We all always say “can”.
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Thanks Mr.Bellum for taking out the trash. | |||
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thin skin can't win |
Are we sure it's not just mistaken identity of bendable's twin? You only have integrity once. - imprezaguy02 | |||
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