I’m betting they got deployment orders and he’s one of the shit bags that they don’t want to take with them so they are chaptering him out to open the slot and get a new soldier. My unit did that, all of a sudden the crazies, fat and or broken soldiers under E5 all got kicked out in a massive wave. He’s definitely full of shit

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Originally posted by Gustofer:
Tell her to run. Far and fast.

While I agree that IS what she should do, the OP saying this would likely only end in disaster for him.

SOTAR- Shitty situation, all around. This jackass sounds like quite a catch. It seems like all you can do in this situation is be supportive to her and try not to alienate her. Good luck.

This. Hopefully what you are hearing from your stepdaughter is her understanding of what he told her. Either way, confronting the untruth would likely make her defensive and feel like she needs to choose between her husband and her family. Do your best to love and support her and leaving figuring out his nonsense to her.

I also believe all qualified E-4s and 5's get automatically sent to a promotion board now.

If he didn't pass the board - or if his command took the necessary steps to exclude him from the board - then he may not be allowed to re-enlist.

That's one possibility to consider as the root cause of all this mess.

As others have said, not everyone is cut out for the military and his time is just up.

If your daughter is happy and staying with him, then there may be very little to gain by trying to get the bottom of the story.

My blunt opinion?
Your problem, long and short term, is communicating with your daughter and what would attract her and keep her there.
The S-I-L is the symptom.

Went through some similar BS a few years ago with my daughter and her then husband. We learned he had some substance abuse problems and he was denied re-enlistment.

After he got out, couldn't or wouldn't keep a job for more than a week or two and my daughter sending him to rehab a couple of times, she kicked his ass out. That was the day she came home from work and he was sitting in the living room drinking cough syrup. They are now divorced.

The only thing anyone has heard out of him since was last year, he called to ask if he could go hunting with me. I asked if he had a death wish and hung up on him.

Sounds like a version of the the Commander signed paperwork PREVENTING re-enlistment--it sounds like they made him sign paperwork acknowledging he was being denied re-enlistment.

Or...hey..here's this job. You can't re-enlist--sign here.

The movers piece of this is confusing...unless his denial of re-enlistment cancelled his orders and he didn't notify TMO.

You're definitely not getting the whole story. He's lying about something.

SOSTAR: Any chance you could call the kids CO? Get the real story?

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Originally posted by sig229-SAS:
SOSTAR: Any chance you could call the kids CO? Get the real story?

You could also talk to the Chaplain. These guys are usually really good at helping with serious problems.

Make it clear that you're worried about your kid's well being.

V.

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Originally posted by sig229-SAS:
SOSTAR: Any chance you could call the kids CO? Get the real story?

Not gonna happen. And if he got denied re enlistment and had only a year or so left they wouldn’t let him PCS

He was denied reenlistment, most likely.

Heard today the Army is paying you $40,000 bonus if you sign up for the infantry.

I’m thinking a bar to re-enlistment.

“A bar to reenlistment is intended to put the Soldier on notice that they are currently ineligible for reenlistment. Army Regulation 601-280, outlying the Army Retention Program, requires that Soldiers demonstrate high moral character, personal competence, and adaptability to the requirements of the professional Soldier’s moral code in order to reenlist.

The commander must review the bar at least every three months, and will make a final review 30 days prior to the Soldier’s departure date from the unit or separation from Service. Commanders reviewing reenlistment bars must recommend the bar be lifted or remain in place using counseling form DA 4856 (Developmental Counseling Form). If a commander feels that a Soldier still does not measure up to Army standards, they will recommend the bar remain in place and may initiate separation actions. If the Soldier has addressed whatever issues prompted the imposition of the bar, the commander should recommend the bar be lifted. Final approval for removal usually rests with the battalion commander.”
https://www.2id.korea.army.mil...rsToReenlistment.pdf

Based on what’s been reported, this may explain why he’s pulling casual duty and not going to the field. He also could be chartered out of the military. Given how little information his wife has and the chance for information to be garbled. I’m wondering if the movers showing up isn’t a move to JBLM but an ETS move home.

https://armyreenlistment.com/bar.html

Bullshit. Abject bullshit.

Read Icabod's post. This ain't Victorian England, CO's don't have that sort of power. I would know, I was one.

There's an old saying around here "He's full of more shit than a Christmas Turkey".

Based on your description, that young man may fit the old saying.

Good luck and best wishes to your daughter.

His commander signed a bar to re-enlistment because he screwed up, cant pass PT test or has medical issues. The Army isnt going to pay $20k to relocate him just to give him the boot.

Or maybe hes telling the truth, cant count how many great soldiers I wanted to work for me as a commander but only if they wouldn’t reenlist!

Or it could be something else entirely but you definitely arent getting the right story and he may be lying to your daughter as well, Army shit is confusing enough before adding a lier into the mix.

Thank you all for the confirmation of what I believed was going on.

Strambo good to see your post, I should have emailed for your thoughts.

Cal Scout got it!

Sorry about the name mix-ups. I didn't use real names and I see I've gotten myself mixed up. Should't post at 1am.

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Originally posted by Rob Decker:
Bullshit. Abject bullshit.

Read Icabod's post. This ain't Victorian England, CO's don't have that sort of power. I would know, I was one.

Please explain why Icabod's post is bullshit? Commanders can very well certainly prohibit someone's re-enlistment if they are not meeting standards.

I barred a SSgt from re-enlistment because he was a toxic leader, bully, and malingerer. He was gone before my change of command.

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Over the last 2 months, Jim has told his wife that his superior officer has taken a new role there at Ft Stewart, and wants Jim to stay and work for him there. However, to do so Jim must sign a contract preventing him from ever re-enlisting again. Which he supposedly did, but maybe not!

Have not read the other responses. Having said that, this sounds like a large truck load of BS.,

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Originally posted by Rob Decker:
Bullshit. Abject bullshit.

Read Icabod's post. This ain't Victorian England, CO's don't have that sort of power. I would know, I was one.

Please explain why Icabod's post is bullshit? Commanders can very well certainly prohibit someone's re-enlistment if they are not meeting standards.

I barred a SSgt from re-enlistment because he was a toxic leader, bully, and malingerer. He was gone before my change of command.

Sometimes a post has more than one concept.

1. The story is BS.
2. Icabod's post is on point.

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Originally posted by Georgeair:

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Originally posted by SIGguy229:

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Originally posted by Rob Decker:
Bullshit. Abject bullshit.

Read Icabod's post. This ain't Victorian England, CO's don't have that sort of power. I would know, I was one.

Please explain why Icabod's post is bullshit? Commanders can very well certainly prohibit someone's re-enlistment if they are not meeting standards.

I barred a SSgt from re-enlistment because he was a toxic leader, bully, and malingerer. He was gone before my change of command.

Sometimes a post has more than one concept.

1. The story is BS.
2. Icabod's post is on point.

That's the way I read it - I thought he was saying that the story being told by the kid is complete BS and to read Icabod's post for an explanation of why it is BS.