Hoping you all can help me figure out this story, I believe it is 100% BS.

Long story short.

My number 1 non-daughter Kim, married a 27/28-year-old guy Jim 2 years ago Christmas 2017. Jim had just finished boot camp came home for a week and then off to MOS school (I think, or whatever its called these days).

Ok so 2 years ago Kim moved to Fort Stewart GA as his wife to join him on post there. He is in Armored Cal Scout there. He did well and was on reported to be on track to take an exam to be Sargent this past March 19. He re-enlisted around Nov 2018.

Apparently he never took the exam. I have no idea why not.

At about the same time, Jim was given orders to transfer posts to Lewis/McCord. Was supposes to be moving October 19.

Over the last 2 months, Jim has told his wife that his superior officer has taken a new role there at Ft Stewart, and wants Jim to stay and work for him there. However, to do so Jim must sign a contract preventing him from ever re-enlisting again. Which he supposedly did, but maybe not!

Only last week the moving company called his wife to coordinate the move. She called him at work he freaked out on her. Haven't heard anything since about moving / not moving. New job etc..

He had been in a Bradly as a Cal Scout. However from what I have heard lately he is just doing office work and no longer any field work. He was in California 6 months ago for a month of training "in the box".

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My perception of him:
- His only job since high school has been stocking groceries
- When they started dating I reached out to him multiple times, meet up for beer etc.. He won't even reply to my texts, or emails. Apparently he is afraid of meeting up with me. It makes him anxious.
- He had wanted to join the Navy until he met Kim
- Then he told us he couldn't join the Navy as he had a bad knee and won't pass the physical (lie)
- So then he joins the Army
- It is known by everyone in his family that he has extreme anxiety issues. On day's off he does little more than play video games.

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My theory:
1) something happened during training in CA where he freaked out and couldn't get it under control.
- he has been assigned a desk and will server out his time at it

Or
2)
- He is freaked out about moving to a new post
- He has come up with every way he can think of to make that not happen. Thus trying to stay at Fort Stewart.
- He is being booted out 2-3 years short of his second full enlistment.
- Maybe none of this stay in Georgia stuff is even true.
- Pretty sure he is lying about a ton of this stuff.

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I talked with a customer the other day who is in the Army. Said he had never heard of a non-reenlistment contract and that right now the Army is struggling to get the people it needs.

So the question: Anyone ever heard of a contract to stay at one post for 2 years, about 3 years short of his full second enlistment and to take that he cannot reenlist again?

I believe Kim is full of it. And is lying about a lot of things.

Any thoughts?

There are various reasons for someone on active duty to be allowed to finish an enlistment with a pending RE4 re-enlistment code. The RE code is a person's re-enlistment status with an RE4 being not eligible for re+enlistment. I don't know about signing a new contract, every enlistment terminates with a RE code.

I don't think that you are getting the full truthful story.

Yeah I smell bull shit.
His old commander giving him a job that will prevent him from re enlisting? Nope.
When I was in everyone under E5 couldn’t re enlist. (The 1st 4 Obama years) but that was then and I’m sure the draw down is over by now. And if you were an E4 that they liked there were exceptions. ( I was one of them but got out anyway)

Either way I don’t buy it. I don’t even believe that he was bros with his old commander. As an E4 he wouldn’t even talk to his commander unless he was asked a question or to give him the greeting of the day as he saluted.

#1 d/t behavior or medical.

I spent 10 years in the Army. Honestly, I've never heard of such things.

I'll agree that something is amiss.

V.

The army has plenty of crazies and lying dip shits who can’t hack it btw. So I think you’re def. onto something.
Usually they weed themselves out or they get seeded out before a deployment, either way they usually do not last more than a couple years

I was never in the Army but I smell BS

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Originally posted by White Phosphorus:
I spent 10 years in the Army. Honestly, I've never heard of such things.

I'll agree that something is amiss.

V.

agree (7 years active)

plus OP it's CAV scout not Cal Scout -- short for Cavalry

you may never get the full story. plus the Army (military in general) is not for everyone. sounds like he figured that out and is ashamed to admit it directly.

he sounds like a real peach but honestly there is nothing you can really do about it - they're adults

the more you try to 'get to the bottom of it' the more they are going to be reluctant to communicate with you

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Wouldn't it be possible for her to contact someone to talk about it on the base? Family services of some type or at the very least the First Sergeant? I think other more experienced spouses in housing would be able to direct her where to go for help.

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I believe Kim is full of it. And is lying about a lot of things.

Kim or Jim? I feel like you meant that to be Jim. If Kim is lying to you as well, then you just have to sit back and let it ride.

If Kim is being straight with you, have her ask the moving company who scheduled them. Contact the person or department that scheduled the movers.
I’m not military, but in Washington I lived in a predominantly military neighborhood. All my friends were active or recently retired. They were always the ones scheduling the moving truck as far as I know.

My first thought when reading this was Michael Douglas in Falling Down. But with them living on base, that’s not going to be the issue.

Rereading your post, I’m with a couple of the other guys here. Maybe he has some colossal meltdown at training in California. He’s been posted to a desk and will ride out his remaining time.

Hindsight is always 20/20, but if my stepdaughter was dating a guy and he wouldn’t meet with me, have a beer, attend BBQs, no dice. Kiddo, time to find a new guy.

No matter what, I’m sorry that you’re being fed a line of crap. I hope that everything works out okay for your daughter. It’s got to be rough to be a parent and have to watch something like this go on. Best wishes brother.

Tell her to run. Far and fast.

Yeah, kid isn't cut out for the military and is making up a story why he won't be able to stay in.

Heard something similar from a buddy's brother who left due to 'Needs of the Navy', which he made sound like a good thing, but in reality was he was shown the door after 2 years of only being able to chip paint under duress.

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Originally posted by SOTAR:
Any thoughts?
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It is known by everyone in his family that he has extreme anxiety issues.
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So then he joins the Army

Yeah....how could there be a good ending to that story, even if he stays in/they let him stay in?

I guess he could be poster child for a new malady, PTSD - Pre-Traumatic Stress Disorder.

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Originally posted by SOTAR:
Christmas 2017. Jim had just finished boot camp came home for a week and then off to MOS school (I think, or whatever its called these days).

Ok so 2 years ago Kim moved to Fort Stewart GA as his wife to join him on post there. He is in Armored Cal Scout there. He did well and was on reported to be on track to take an exam to be Sargent this past March 19. He re-enlisted around Nov 2018.

And there would be no reason for him to 're-enlist' in Nov 2018 if he had 'just finished boot' anytime in 2017.

They don't have enlistment contracts that short.

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Originally posted by RHINOWSO:
And there would be no reason for him to 're-enlist' in Nov 2018 if he had 'just finished boot' anytime in 2017.

They don't have enlistment contracts that short.

It sounds like the guy's full of shit regardless.

But it is interesting that the Army does offer super short 2 year contracts:

https://www.armytimes.com/news...es-to-grow-the-army/

"Technically, there's not a whole lot soldiers can do in the Army in under two years. Depending on the MOS, they'll spend several months to a year in the initial training pipeline, and likely not have enough time left on their contract to report to a unit, get into the deployment training cycle and go abroad for a full deployment."

Yep, something’s fishy. Heard this same kind of BS from my extended family 20 years ago about a cousin. “The Navy lied to her, they don’t have any jobs available for her speciality, etc.” I told Dad, “No, she’s gay and couldn’t do the ‘don’t tell’ part.” She got out of the Navy and promptly went full on lesbian.

I’m not implying anything similar with your son in law, but instead using my anecdote as an example of how there is more to the story.

The boy done screwed up and not being truthful

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Originally posted by Gustofer:
Tell her to run. Far and fast.

While I agree that IS what she should do, the OP saying this would likely only end in disaster for him.

SOTAR- Shitty situation, all around. This jackass sounds like quite a catch. It seems like all you can do in this situation is be supportive to her and try not to alienate her. Good luck.

This does not pass the sniff test.
Prepare and protect yourself, this may not turn out well. Pray for them, keep your opinions to yourself, maintain the best relationship you can stand with them.
Do not co-sign, loan or give money. Practice saying no.

My 28 years active Army experience tells me you’re not getting the whole story or a cover up of the truth.
Also, the moving company usually doesn’t call to set up packing unless there was some sort of prior coordination with the service member.