This is rich! The hypocrites in the libtarded media talking about pre-emptive pardons 4 years ago. Even brought in one of the most dishonorable Congressional critters for his hot take.

https://x.com/EndWokeness/status/1881386043414614298

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Originally posted by billpocz:

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Originally posted by Gustofer:

What pisses me off most about this is that Joe is nothing more than Henry Blake signing whatever Radar puts in front of him....

You beat me to this! Most true statement of the thread. (At least Radar had good intentions at heart)

Just happened to make this meme a couple days ago.

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Originally posted by lastmanstanding:
I don't think Trump had any intention of chasing the rats around anyhow. He is only looking forward now. He is going to get this country on the speed train to prosperity to the degree no one will want to vote for a Democrat again. He can't do this in four years by spending time looking back.

Even had he wanted to investigate and prosecute any of these people it would take much longer than four years of legal wrangling to see the fruits of any of it. The Democrats couldn't get Trump in eight years and they had home field advantage with all their crooked judges.

Yeah... I mostly agree. As much as I would love to see the Trump administration go after them, it's not something that he should focus on.

Trump has a big agenda. Saving America has to take priority over investigations. Congress should focus on closing the border and cutting spending.

The Justice department, OTOH, can and should challenge these "pre-emptive" pardons in Court as going too far, abusing the power.

his DoJ should focus on prosecuting the rats

we're either a nation of laws or we're not and being a 2-bit politician shouldn't alter the law

its not president Trumps problem to deal with - he has people to do that for him

So prosecution of criminals is now revenge. Got it.
Thanks for clearing that up for us, big guy.

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Originally posted by Hobbs:
So prosecution of criminals is now revenge.

Nope. It's a reckoning.

^^ a.k.a. Retribution

Two weeks ago, Joe Biden awarded Liz Cheney with the Presidential Citizens Medal.

Today, Joe Biden preemptively pardoned Liz Cheney.

How does one receive the nation's second highest civilian honor AND a pardon

I am sure Trump and his advisors knew this was coming. Energy can be focused to where it brings about a better result. Just so glad that 4 years of that stinking urine soaked jackass are over. Same for his VP. A new day is here.

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^^ a.k.a. Retribution

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punishment inflicted on someone as vengeance for a wrong

I don't consider upholding the law to be retribution.

I was once in a situation similar to Trump. I had a detective that had falsely accused me of committing a crime and was attempting to railroad me. Not knowing why this guy had a burr under his saddle, I put a private investigator on him. Come to find out he liked to spy on young women. I think "peeping tom" were the words used by those that ended up dealing with him.

I never broke the law. He tried to punish me. He was breaking the law. He got punished. Was that retribution, or simply justice? It was certainly karma, and fell into the don't start none won't be none category.

If there is evidence that any of these people broke the law, they need to be charged. I'm tired of these decisions being made based on feelings or how things would look. Lady Justice is supposed to be blindfolded.

ret·ri·bu·tion
/ˌretrəˈbyo͞oSH(ə)n/
noun
noun: retribution

punishment inflicted on someone as vengeance for a wrong or criminal act.

https://www.google.com/search?...tribution+definition

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punishment inflicted on someone as vengeance for a wrong or criminal act.

Key word being vengeance. Charging somebody with a legitimate crime is not revenge.

I think we're muddling two different things together here. When someone commits a real crime, it isn't revenge or retribution to investigate and prosecute. But when someone is prosecuted for things which are not clearly crimes, or when the prosecution is carried out in a kangaroo court by dishonest prosecutors and judges, that is a political act.

Investigating and prosecuting Fauci, Cheney, Milley, the Bidens, Hillary, etc would be to uncover actual crimes which any other person would be harshly punished for. They clearly appear to have criminally harmed people, endangered the country, committed witness tampering, destruction of documents, etc.

I would not call it revenge or retribution to have an honest reckoning of their actions.

And I fully support harshly punishing them if in court they were found guilty, because we cannot have government officials doing what they did.

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Originally posted by a1abdj:

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punishment inflicted on someone as vengeance for a wrong or criminal act.

Key word being vengeance. Charging somebody with a legitimate crime is not revenge.

Exactly...It's Retribution!

In case you missed it, I edited my previous post. Oxfords definition is returned at the search link I posted above.

Seriously, there's no reason/exception where legal prosecutions for crimes committed would not/could not meet the definition of retribution. Just sayin'...

I guess from here on out since the J6 committee were pardoned they must be known as the J6 criminals instead.

Ideally all the evil deeds of Fauci would be exposed, and the whole world would then realize that Fauci is a mass murderer. At the same time, show that the Democratic machine is what allowed this to happen. Then perhaps those that are still in denial will realize what kind of organization the Dems really are.

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Originally posted by sigmonkey:
Since many of the things these some of these people did affected people in each of the states, could not each of the states sue/bring charges?

27 states still could bring a lot of heat for a long time.

Tie their hands, make them sweat.

A presidential pardon is only good for federal crimes so if a crime took place in a state, which obviously it would, then the prosecutor in the area that has venue could pursue state charges I would imagine.

The Biden crime syndicate and coconspirators can avoid doing business in red states. A little obscene how vigorously Biden is using executive power on his way out after being soundly rejected by both party and voters. He acts like he's finishing up a successful second term and timed out.

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Originally posted by StorminNormin:

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Originally posted by sigmonkey:
Since many of the things these some of these people did affected people in each of the states, could not each of the states sue/bring charges?

27 states still could bring a lot of heat for a long time.

Tie their hands, make them sweat.

A presidential pardon is only good for federal crimes so if a crime took place in a state, which obviously it would, then the prosecutor in the area that has venue could pursue state charges I would imagine.

Exactly. I just was not sure of what the term or process would be by name.