“Nothing succeeds like success,” and I wasn’t the one taking the shot, so this isn’t criticism, but I do wonder why the monitor was hit if he could see the BG’s head at all. Did he forget the offset between the sight and bore line at such a short distance (as I have been guilty of in a nonstressful range session myself)?

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Originally posted by 12131:

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Originally posted by gunnitt:
I live in Lee county, and of course people cried foul saying it was excessive. Great job officers God bless all first responders.

FUCK.THEM.

Tell them to move back to the left coast, NY or NJ. Or wherever they came from. Ask the hostages if it was excessive.

Nice having the suppressor on the rifle for the guy whose shoulder the rifle is resting on.

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Originally posted by sgalczyn:
308 at ~25 yds or less.....oof!
That had to sting!

I doubt he felt a thing.

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Originally posted by gunnitt:
I live in Lee county, and of course people cried foul saying it was excessive.

Ask them if they would still think it excessive if the hostage was their Mother/Sister/Daughter/Wife. Dumbasses.

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Originally posted by Expert308:
I doubt he felt a thing.

Yep. He didn't even hear the shot. .308 to the T-box is like flipping a power switch.

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Originally posted by sigfreund:
“Nothing succeeds like success,” and I wasn’t the one taking the shot, so this isn’t criticism, but I do wonder why the monitor was hit if he could see the BG’s head at all. Did he forget the offset between the sight and bore line at such a short distance (as I have been guilty of in a nonstressful range session myself)?

I had this thought as well.

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Originally posted by 12131:

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Originally posted by gunnitt:
I live in Lee county, and of course people cried foul saying it was excessive. Great job officers God bless all first responders.

FUCK.THEM.

Well, using a TOW missile probably could be construed as excessive. But a .308 is just dandy.

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Originally posted by 12131:

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Originally posted by gunnitt:
I live in Lee county, and of course people cried foul saying it was excessive. Great job officers God bless all first responders.

FUCK.THEM.

And I most heartily agree!!!!

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Originally posted by sigfreund:
“Nothing succeeds like success,” and I wasn’t the one taking the shot, so this isn’t criticism, but I do wonder why the monitor was hit if he could see the BG’s head at all. Did he forget the offset between the sight and bore line at such a short distance (as I have been guilty of in a nonstressful range session myself)?

Excellent result but I too wonder if if he didn't take the offset into account .

Damn! Just damn!!!

I have two computer monitors I will gladly donate for next weeks training session.

The P.A. officer said that they practice shooting thru barriers. I wonder if that included a computer monitor? That might be a bit more tricky than a windshield or auto window.

RMD

Sometimes you use a sledgehammer to kill a fly.

Bravo.

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The P.A. officer said that they practice shooting thru barriers. I wonder if that included a computer monitor? That might be a bit more tricky than a windshield or auto window.

They can be more bullet-resistant than you might think. There's videos of bullets being completely thwarted from going through a monitor, and at least one real-world occurrence where it saved someone from being shot. The multiple screen layers serve to spread impact force laterally, and internal components are sometimes hardened plates for strength and EM shielding.

You dont say....

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LCSO public information officer Lieutenant Todd Olmer said in the video shared on Facebook. "The .308 caliber bullet used is specifically selected due to its known ballistic reliability traveling through intermediate barriers."

https://www.foxnews.com/us/flo...mputer-monitor-video

We occasionally have ammo manufacturers come in and do ballistic performance demonstrations (shooting gold dots and HST's though glass, denim, drywall, etc into ballistic jello). At one of them, after having the engineer drone on for a while about barrier performance in various pistol calibers and 5.56, I asked what the FBI performance standard was for 12 guage and .308. The answer was illuminating: "there isn't one, they couldn't find a case where a COM hit from a 12 guage or 308 didnt cease hostilities instantly, so all of this testing was deemed unnecessary" (perhaps not the exact words, but close enough).

Pretty dang quiet for a .308. I wonder what suppressor he was using.

Outstanding, he never knew what hit him.

Another fine example of urban renewal

Where I worked, there was an official term used to describe cases or incidents where an arrest was not made but it was fully resolved:
Exceptionally Cleared.
Applies in this case very well!

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Originally posted by kkina:

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The P.A. officer said that they practice shooting thru barriers. I wonder if that included a computer monitor? That might be a bit more tricky than a windshield or auto window.

They can be more bullet-resistant than you might think. There's videos of bullets being completely thwarted from going through a monitor, and at least one real-world occurrence where it saved someone from being shot. The multiple screen layers serve to spread impact force laterally, and internal components are sometimes hardened plates for strength and EM shielding.

Can you provide some links? I had heard the rumor that flat screen monitors could act as a barrier to small arms fire. A couple of times now, I have tested the theory on defunct equipment and found that 9mm, 40 S&W, 5.56 all have absolutely no trouble penetrating flat panel displays. Now, these were laptops, not stand alone monitors, so they wouldn't have any internal steel plates. How ever, the multiple screen layers only made a bigger mess when shattered.

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Originally posted by kkina:]
They can be more bullet-resistant than you might think. There's videos of bullets being completely thwarted from going through a monitor, and at least one real-world occurrence where it saved someone from being shot. The multiple screen layers serve to spread impact force laterally, and internal components are sometimes hardened plates for strength and EM shielding.

Maybe an old CRT monitor, but there’s none of what you are suggesting in a modern LED monitor. A 1/2” AR500 steel plate about the size of a 27” monitor costs at least $150 and weighs about 40lbs. The price only goes up from there, so it stands to reason your basic 15lb $150 27” monitor is not going to stop a 308 Winchester at office ranges.