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I got a notification also, I followed the link to their site and got this info ... it applies to every seller, business or private individual.

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Marketplace Facilitator Sales Tax Collection

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GunBroker.com will update this document as new information is available. Check back regularly.

Last Update: December 4, 2020

GunBroker.com will implementing the new Marketplace Facilitator Internet Sales Tax regulations on January 1, 2021. As a marketplace, GunBroker.com will be required to collect and remit sales tax on all sales according to the state law.

What is a Marketplace Facilitator?

A Marketplace Facilitator is defined as an entity that provides a forum for sellers to promote their sale of physical property, digital goods, and services and is compensated for these services. As such, GunBroker.com is deemed to be a Marketplace Facilitator for sellers on the site.

What is Marketplace Facilitator Legislation?

Marketplace Facilitator legislation is a set of laws that shifts the sales tax collection and remittance obligations from the individual seller to the marketplace facilitator. As the Marketplace Facilitator, GunBroker.com will have to calculate, collect and remit state sales tax on sales sold by third party sellers for transactions destined to states where Marketplace Facilitator and/or Marketplace collection legislation is enacted.
What does this mean to me?
As a Buyer:

If your state requires Marketplace Facilitators to collect and remit sales tax, you will be required to pay the tax due for your purchases on GunBroker.com. The tax amount will be included on your order during checkout.

What if my business is tax exempt?

If your purchases are exempt from tax, you must submit your tax exemption documentation to GunBroker.com for review. After review, your account will be set up as tax-exempt buyer. To submit your exemption please do the following:

Send an email to SiteInfo@gunbroker.com
Attach your tax exemption documentation.
Send it from the email address used on your GunBroker.com account.
Use the email subject: Sales Tax Exemption Request - Buyer
Briefly describe why you are tax exempt in the body of the message.

As a Seller:

GunBroker.com will calculate the tax due on each of your orders. This tax calculation will be based on the Ship To address on the order. The calculation will include tax for the item plus any additional taxes for things such as shipping or handling. When the buyer completes checkout, you will receive the appropriate tax amount as part of payment for the order. Make sure you and your buyers use the GunBroker.com order checkout process to complete the purchase so sales tax is handled properly. Be sure to collect the sales tax since you will be responsible for paying the sales tax amount to GunBroker.com for remittance to the state agencies.

What if I am a private seller and not a business?

Even as a private seller, you will have to collect and remit sales tax on your items. When the buyer completes the checkout process the appropriate tax will be calculated for the order. This tax will be paid to you as part of the payment you receive. In a manner similar to how you pay your GunBroker.com fees, GunBroker.com will bill and collect the sales tax amount from you. GunBroker.com, because of marketplace facilitator legislation, is required to report and remit the tax to the individual states for the transactions on the site.

How will this flow?

GunBroker.com will capture and record the sales tax related to each order. You will then remit that sales tax to GunBroker.com in the same manner as your monthly fees. These amounts will be periodically billed and collected via your payment method on file. GunBroker.com will remit the amounts collected to each state as the marketplace facilitator.

Will I have to change my listings?

No. On January 1, 2021 the GunBroker.com checkout process will begin charging sales tax on all orders. No changes to your listings will need to be made. Any existing tax information on your listings will be overridden by the new process.

Will I have access to sale tax information?

Yes. GunBroker.com plans to provide the ability for you to download your sales tax information as part of this process. The download will contain information about the order, ship to destination (used for tax calculation) and the tax amount.

How will this impact the sale tax filings I submit to states?

Sales tax requirements and regulations vary by state. GunBroker.com suggests you consult a tax accountant or tax attorney for guidance in these matters.

Will this change how my fees are calculated?

No. GunBroker.com fees will continue to be charged on the sale price of the item. The collection of state sales tax will not change your GunBroker.com fees.

What if my account is a charity / tax exempt?

If your sales are exempt from tax, you must submit your tax exemption documentation to GunBroker.com for review. After review, your account will be set up as tax-exempt seller. To submit your exemption please do the following:

Send an email to SiteInfo@gunbroker.com
Attach your tax exemption documentation.
Send it from the email address used on your GunBroker.com account.
Use the email subject: Sales Tax Exemption Request - Seller
Briefly describe why you are tax exempt in the body of the message.

For more details about Marketplace Facilitators:

https://www.avalara.com/us/en/...acilitator-laws.html

https://www.taxconnex.com/blog...r-questions-answered

https://quaderno.io/blog/us-ma...ng-you-need-to-know/

https://www.google.com/search?...to+collect+sales+tax
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Posts: 5727 | Registered: January 11, 2007Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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Originally posted by 83v45magna:
I don't understand how everyone got so accepting of paying taxes on an item that already had taxes paid on it's original purchase, guns or otherwise. If you aren't a business registered in your state as a reseller, government can and should kindly fuck off regarding taxes.

Queue the guy that inevitably comes along to tell you to report and pay tax from your garage sale. Screw that.

Yeah.... I agree.
If I'm not running a business I ought to be able to sell/trade stuff I've already paid sales tax on.
How long before the classifieds have a sales tax requirement?
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Posts: 25229 | Location: St. Louis, MO | Registered: April 03, 2009Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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Originally posted by chellim1:

I agree. If I'm not running a business I ought to be able to sell/trade stuff I've already paid sales tax on. How long before the classifieds have a sales tax requirement?


Absolutely. As a non-dealer, I occasionally sell items on GB to improve/upgrade the quality of my collection. Since GB buyers ultimately determine the selling price based upon their bid, the sales tax will be passed on to the seller in the form of a lower gavel price. While an argument may be made for collecting sales tax on items sold new at retail, applying a sales tax to used items is most concerning. An additional ~7% hidden seller's fee may just be enough to put an end to my trading on GB.
 
Posts: 3631 | Location: Western PA | Registered: July 20, 2010Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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Originally posted by 12131:
I've been buying/selling on GB for a long time. Haven't received this email, yet. Any other GB users receive the same email OP got?


yes, and a note to sign up for TaxCloud so they can process the taxes for me,

or I can do like I have in the past and just do the math and add it to what I do every month



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Posts: 10733 | Location: Beach VA,not VA Beach | Registered: July 17, 2007Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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Originally posted by hjs157:
Absolutely. As a non-dealer, I occasionally sell items on GB to improve/upgrade the quality of my collection. Since GB buyers ultimately determine the selling price based upon their bid, the sales tax will be passed on to the seller in the form of a lower gavel price. While an argument may be made for collecting sales tax on items sold new at retail, applying a sales tax to used items is most concerning. An additional ~7% hidden seller's cost may just be enough to put an end to my trading on GB.

Sales Tax won't be "hidden" it will be listed in the check-out ... GunBroker will compute it based on the "ship-to" location and it will be listed separately so there is no need "hide" it in the selling price. However it will be up to the seller to collect it and remit it to GunBroker who will then pay the "ship-to" state.

However like you, over the past 20+ years I've used GB to improve/upgrade the quality of my collection. Our tax rate is nearly 10% so I don't see myself doing as much buying as I have in the past since I'll have to pay shipping and sales tax ...
... on the "up-side" this will likely help out the failing local brick & mortar stores that couldn't compete with on-line sales.


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Originally posted by kimberkid:

Sales Tax won't be "hidden" it will be listed in the check-out ... GunBroker will compute it based on the "ship-to" location and it will be listed separately so there is no need "hide" it in the selling price. However it will be up to the seller to collect it and remit it to GunBroker who will then pay the "ship-to" state.


"Hidden" as it will be an additional cost absorbed by the seller, not "hidden" as an unknown dollar amount related to the final gavel price of the item. Buyers will instinctively factor their respective state's sales tax rate into the amount the are willing to pay for an item - effectively passing the sales tax burden on to the seller. I've been holding my nose and tolerating this draconian sales tax BS with the used, nickel & dime items I sell on eBay. When one begins dealing with items which regularly sell for north of $1K, it's a whole new ballgame.
 
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Originally posted by kimberkid:
... on the "up-side" this will likely help out the failing local brick & mortar stores that couldn't compete with on-line sales.


And this is why I’m extremely happy about this new policy. I’m not happy about having to pay sales tax with a private seller but most of my purchases via gunbroker, even used guns, have been from dealers so it won’t affect me much. I’m extremely tired of places like BudsGunShop hurting local dealers and in some cases putting them out of business. I’ve seen it said so many times that the only reason that a person bought a gun from Buds or whomever was because they didn’t have to pay sales tax. That’s crap since the taxes are legally owed anyway, it’s just that until now the government has only been able to enforce the collection on local dealers which gave online retailers a completely unfair advantage.




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What happens when u don’t use the GB checkout process and choose to send the seller a money order/check or some other electronic payment?

Buying from an individual


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What happens when u don’t use the GB checkout process and choose to send the seller a money order/check or some other electronic payment?

Buying from an individual


Sales tax will automatically be deducted from the seller's account Should we fail to collect it we still have to pay it.


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Suddenly I can see myself buying a lot less on GB than before.



 
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Was not a fan of the court decision but that's the law of the land now. This is just GB falling into step with other Internet vendors.

It's actually nice (IMO) that they gave notice, so there's most of a month to take advantage before they make the change. Here, that translates into it being a 7% savings to buy in December instead of January.

Not that I need anything. But....
 
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Suddenly I can see myself buying a lot less on GB than before.


Yup, buying and selling.
 
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Originally posted by .38supersig:
Suddenly I can see myself buying a lot less on GB than before.

Ditto, but I do have a few higher-end pieces I may list before the tax deadline.


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Latest update from GB on 12/30/20: Marketplace Facilitator Sales Tax Collection

For now, it appears that only the following states are affected.

The GunBroker.com MPF States

Starting on January 1, 2021, GunBroker.com will collect and remit sales tax on behalf of all sellers for sales in which the item is sold into the following states:

* Georgia – GA
* Iowa – IA
* Indiana – IN
* Kentucky – KY
* Maine – ME
* Nebraska – NE
* New Jersey – NJ
* Nevada – NV


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I too saw that. I don't quite understand as I haven't studied the issue in depth but this law they quote, why doesn't it apply to all the states?
 
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Though the list is somewhat short (right now), I'm sure it'll grow over time.

That said, some States don't have a Sales Tax! Wink


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I too saw that. I don't quite understand as I haven't studied the issue in depth but this law they quote, why doesn't it apply to all the states?


Because only the states listed have enacted so called Marketplace Facilitator laws. As other states see this and realize they are missing out on a revenue stream, I'm sure they will join in and pass the law.



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Bought 2 pistols this week on GB before that change. Cool
 
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Bought 2 pistols this week on GB before that change. Cool


If you are in PA it won’t be affecting you anyway. See the 8 states impacted a couple of posts before yours on this page.



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Posts: 29408 | Location: In the red hinterlands of Deep Blue VA | Registered: June 29, 2001Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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I'm curious as to why eBay doesn't adhere to the same list of states, but I won't complain that Gunbroker is not enforcing this in my state (Wisconsin), at least for now.
 
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