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Originally posted by chellim1:
As CBC concludes, the law gives the federal government carte blanche to cope with a crisis, including the ability to enact emergency powers that allow it to prohibit travel within a specified area or remove personal property, while imposing fines or jail time on people contravening new orders.

Do they plan on confiscating trucks? Would they be that stupid?

If you get away with things long enough you might convince yourself you cannot be stopped.

For all the talk of tolerance and mess like that isn’t it interesting he won’t even talk to the truckers? Is he afraid they will point out his hypocrisy? They have made a fool out of him thus far.

I don’t see a way Trudeau gets out of this. When you push people to the point that they have nothing to lose you better be damn ready for the consequences.

Looks like this happened yesterday, maybe a bit earlier Unreal.

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Originally posted by Bytes:

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Originally posted by chellim1:
As CBC concludes, the law gives the federal government....

Do they plan on confiscating trucks? Would they be that stupid?

yes, they would

Okay, this is a bit of a tangent for this thread, but I'll put it out here.

Im looking at it from a technical, not political standpoint. In the US at least, what I'm saying would require legislation and would face hellacious court challenges. Other countries might not require those niceties.

From a technical standpoint, shutting down crypto currencies could be done quite easily by blocking access to their block chain server cloud. Since every crypto transaction requires validation against, and recording in, the block chain, deny access to the block chain and no crypto transactions could be performed. Since every wallet, exchange, other means of performing a crypto transaction requires block chain access, they have to know where all the servers are. The government could order the ISPs, cell carriers, VPN operators, etc., to block the IP addresses and delete DNS entries for the blockchain servers, and crypto would be done. Yes, the crypto operators. Would try to get around this. But it wouldn't be easy, and whatever they do could similarly be blocked.

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Originally posted by jljones:
Actually, it’s doubtful that they could “shut it down” in a “matter of hours”. They would have to have all the thousands of pass through accounts and freeze them all simultaneously. As a reminder, despite the cries that the “banks are in on it”, t th hey are in this for the money. And they make a ton of money from interest in pass through accounts. It’s not in a banks best interest to cooperate until the money has been moved from
Bitcoin to a pass through account, and off shore to a non friendly nation. While bitcoin is in a sense ones and zeros, it moves in and out of pass through as real money. With real interest. And that’s what the banks like about it.

If I had some heavy equipment that needed disabling, I'd take to them for the sake of convenience. No need for them to have to walk out into all of that mud and get dirty.

If any individuals were mechanically inclined, I'd take it to their personal homes and put it right in their living room. If it would take a group effort, then some could be placed in the lobby or offices of their headquarters.

Much shorter walk for them.

BBMW, there are over 10,000 block chain nodes and more could spring up in a heart beat. A bit more on block chain nodes here. and here.

Pre-emptively sabotaging what looks like over $1M of off road equipment that was legally parked on private land because it "might" be used in the protest is way out of bounds.

Hopefully they can sue and be compensated for repairs, lost time, and any other damages. I guess they don't have due process in Canada, or the government doesn't care about due process.

Now just wait for the heavy equipment to roll into Ottawa. If you think a Tractor and Semi-Trailer is hard to move, wait until an Excavator or Bulldozer twice as wide as a Semi crawls into town. As long as the operator does the right things, that thing is not going to be removed by anyone or anything. They will have to cut it apart with torches and take it out piece by piece.

Jerkwad commie counter-“protests” being used now by Castreaux…

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Originally posted by Bytes:
BBMW, there are over 10,000 block chain nodes and more could spring up in a heart beat. A bit more on block chain nodes here. and here.

You guys should start a thread.

Okay, but they all have to be publicly locatable. I don't think the numbers would be relevant, as this would all be automated.

A government agency could, pretending it was a wallet or exchange, constantly scan for them the same way those entities would. When it finds one it adds to to the list of sites to be blocked, and uploads it to the ISPs, etc.. This could be done on a daily, or even hourly basis.

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Originally posted by Bytes:
BBMW, there are over 10,000 block chain nodes and more could spring up in a heart beat. A bit more on block chain nodes here. and here.

The Canadian Dilemma in a Nutshell
By David Solway
https://pjmedia.com/columns/da...-a-nutshell-n1558926

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Originally posted by Lefty Sig:
Pre-emptively sabotaging what looks like over $1M of off road equipment that was legally parked on private land because it "might" be used in the protest is way out of bounds.

Hopefully they can sue and be compensated for repairs, lost time, and any other damages. I guess they don't have due process in Canada, or the government doesn't care about due process.

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The problem with these lawsuits is the money for damages are never paid by the freaking individuals who made the mess in the first place. It's the taxpayer who pays.

It would be nice to get back to some personal accountability. We seem to be very far from that.

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It's the taxpayer who pays.

Its the Taxpayers who elected these people, so shouldn't they ultimately pay in some way, sort of a self healing situation, you elect a dickwad and their group, they fuck up, cost taxpayers millions, so you don't re-elect them..

At least that's the premise, in reality, you re-elect them, because, your guy wasn't the problem...

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Originally posted by HRK:

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It's the taxpayer who pays.

Its the Taxpayers who elected these people, so shouldn't they ultimately pay in some way, sort of a self healing situation, you elect a dickwad and their group, they fuck up, cost taxpayers millions, so you don't re-elect them..

At least that's the premise, in reality, you re-elect them, because, your guy wasn't the problem...

I see what you are saying, basically everyone gets the gvmt they deserve.

But the guy I vote for never seems to get elected or re-elected.

I had one single win in 2016, but other than that, nobody I have voted for ever seems to win, from top of the federal elections, all the way down to local school board.

If you want to know who is going to lose an election, look at how I vote

I do my part including money support of a few hundred a year here and there, but it seems to be mostly beyond my control.

So, the problem persists.

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Originally posted by radioman:
It would be nice to get back to some personal accountability. We seem to be very far from that.

^^^ Yep ^^^ At a minimum I would like to see those giving and following orders for this sabotage operation pay with their jobs. You're right, we're a very long ways from that.

As always, small crimes progress to larger crimes when criminals are not held accountable.

First they stole gas and got away with it.
Now they sabotage heavy equipment.

What next for the RCMP?

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Originally posted by radioman:

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Originally posted by HRK:

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It's the taxpayer who pays.

Its the Taxpayers who elected these people, so shouldn't they ultimately pay in some way, sort of a self healing situation, you elect a dickwad and their group, they fuck up, cost taxpayers millions, so you don't re-elect them..

At least that's the premise, in reality, you re-elect them, because, your guy wasn't the problem...

I see what you are saying, basically everyone gets the gvmt they deserve.

But the guy I vote for never seems to get elected or re-elected.

Yes that's correct in a way, not fair, not the best way and yes in the civil world if Joe Blow caused damages he'd be the one responsible.

The only recourse we as voters have is to hope that those that elect people who cause these problems change their ways, or, if they are going to remain committed to that party, change the people that represent them

Mostly JMO we need a change in the way politicians are allowed to achieve, fund, spend and hold office as well as restrict the access to the post political office welfare circuit where they earn millions as consultants, speakers, book writers, liaison to contractors etc.

So, what's the situation in Ottawa right now?