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Chip away the stone
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He's probably got MSNBC and CNN in a bidding war for his services as a commentator as we speak.
 
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So the judge deserted as well?


Dereliction of duty at a bare minimum.



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I speak jive.
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I almost believe that the judge made this ruling to spite President Trump.

Unless evidence to the contrary surfaces, I consider it a *purely* political decision.
 
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agreed

the 'judge' was derelict and should be charged

a travesty for the families of the victims

where is Mattis and Kelly on this?



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Ethics, antics,
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The reason these types of rulings happen way too frequently, regardless of the case, is that judges have way too little accountability when it comes to doing their duty and excising their judgement. An opinion/ruling derelict of the facts and the law should count against judges like mistakes, oversights, and "doing whatever the hell you feel like" does in other occupations. They should have an annual independent review of judge rulings and allow them only a certain number of cases of "leeway" rulings per year or something along those lines. This is exactly why mandatory minimum sentences for certain crimes / number of offenses have become more prominent. Many judges can't seem to balance compassion with accountability.


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I am convinced that the justice system is inappropriately named

its geared towards the criminal so it should be called the Retribution System. Criminals need retribution, victims need justice.

when you start wrong, you can't help but end wrong



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SWMBO told me she read that the sentence had to be reviewed at two further superior levels. Maybe there is hope for justice yet.

If not, someone will take care of this eventually.

RMD




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one can only hope that we can get justice...its a shame we have to rely on hope for what is right



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SWMBO told me she read that the sentence had to be reviewed at two further superior levels. Maybe there is hope for justice yet.

If not, someone will take care of this eventually.

RMD


The review can only lessen the sentence. After it's reviewed it will automatically be appealed (where it could be reduced). No chance of the punishment increasing from this point on.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/1...rgdahl-sentence.html

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The sentence will be reviewed by Gen. Robert B. Abrams, who convened the court-martial, and has the power to lessen the punishment. If the final sentence still includes a punitive discharge, it will then automatically be reviewed by the United States Army Court of Criminal Appeals.



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can he throw it out and start again?



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I'd be willing to bet he ends up with a general discharge and full benefits.
 
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can he throw it out and start again?


No, from this point the convening authority can reduce the sentence or dismiss the charges - the sentence cannot be increased from this point forward. Bergdahl is appealing, hoping to have the charges dismissed or the sentence reduced.

https://www.nolo.com/legal-enc...tial-conviction.html



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I'd be willing to bet he ends up with a general discharge and full benefits.


Will he get a free lunch at some restaurants on Veterans Day?




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"It's not the Wild West anymore, you can't just clean up the streets with a gun, even though sometimes, that's exactly what's needed" --- A.G. Russert

It's coming anyway.



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I'd be willing to bet he ends up with a general discharge and full benefits.


Will he get a free lunch at some restaurants on Veterans Day?
Oh he might get something on Veteran's Day if I made the mistake to dine with real veterans, but I don't think I'd call it lunch.

What an absolute travesty of justice. Apparently military judges are every bit as corrupt and contemptable as civilian judges are.


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Shocked and disgusted! I was predicting 25 years and a DD. I cannot even imagine how those guys in his unit feel about this.



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I would be perfectly happy with this sentence if they would tattoo his name and "traitor" on his forehead.



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A prison sentence might have saved him from an unfortunate accident someday, but then it would probably have to have been solitary confinement to keep him safe in prison.


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Next we'll hear from the ACLU how Hasan Akbar and Nidal Hasan should have their sentences commuted because they didn't have the benefit of white privilege like Bergdahl.



 
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