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I'm assuming this was one of the 2 bigger indoor ranges near us? I've yet to go to the new one closest to me, on my to-do list when some free time opens up. The Enemy's gate is down. | |||
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You are a lucky duc. . . er cockatoo. I wish I had access to my own range. Sigh. ___________________________________________ Life Member NRA & Washington Arms Collectors Mistake not my current state of joshing gentle peevishness for the awesome and terrible majesty of the towering seas of ire that are themselves the milquetoast shallows fringing my vast oceans of wrath. Velocitas Incursio Vis - Gandhi | |||
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Problem with mine is that it's about 7 hours from my house  The Enemy's gate is down. | |||
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Sounds like their attempt at being compliant is getting confused with being unnecessarily restrictive; their management probably told them when in doubt, just say no. If someone escalates it, just call a manager/ownership. It's their range, thier rules...most ranges I've been to, foreign customers just need to produce a passport and demonstrate an understanding of basic English. | |||
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Google the actual statute: 27 CFR 178.97 The result will give you several different websites that you can read. Some are more clear than others, but it appears that foreign nationals can't shoot at ranges in the U.S. | |||
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I did and we had already covered 27 CFR 178.97 on page 1 an hour before you even posted yesterday. Neither part a nor part b apply to the situation. That is why I asked for a specific link. As slosig pointed out Liberty Firearms Institute appears to be the source passing this along to ranges. Ego is the anesthesia that deadens the pain of stupidity DISCLAIMER: These are the author's own personal views and do not represent the views of the author's employer. | |||
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Before NV accepted AZ CCWs, I took the NV class at The Gun Store in Vegas, the place that has all the billboard signs for renting machine guns. That place had its own taxi stand/ride share area for all the foreign tourists who wanted to rent machine guns. It was a sight to behold. Somehow that place flies under the radar. I don't think there was a native English speaker there and it was a two hour wait to get on the range. Fortunately, our range quals were done after closing. | |||
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I agree and it's not like they're by themselves. I brought a ferner to a gun range. I don't remember is any documents were asked. But we did have to sit through a safety video as it was his first time shooting. "It did not really matter what we expected from life, but rather what life expected from us. We needed to stop asking about the meaning of life, and instead to think of ourselves as those who were being questioned by life – daily and hourly. Our answer must consist not in talk and meditation, but in right action and in right conduct. Life ultimately means taking the responsibility to find the right answer to its problems and to fulfill the tasks which it constantly sets for each individual." Viktor Frankl, Man's Search for Meaning, 1946. | |||
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False plus unsubstantiated assumptions on your part. Just like I do every time I go there we waited our turn at the rental counter, had our IDs ready, and said we wanted to share a lane for an hour. I stated I had been there before and it was his first time. Two things shocked me on Sunday: I was polite, asked what has changed since last summer, she couldn't/wouldn't answer, and we left. I didn't get mad, didn't ask to speak to a manager, etc. We just left and found something else fun to do. Now, I want to figure out whether it's the law or not. If it's not, they've lost me as a customer as past experiences is the only reason I was still going to the older (9 years vs 1 year) and further away nice indoor range. If it's the law, I guess I'm done trying to help foreign coworkers have a once in a lifetime experience. Ego is the anesthesia that deadens the pain of stupidity DISCLAIMER: These are the author's own personal views and do not represent the views of the author's employer. | |||
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Is there a requirement to have a gun safety class to get a hunting license? I don’t need one in MN grandfathered in, however I do need one when hunting in CO. The hunting license would serve as proof of a safety course? ----------The weather is here I wish you were beautiful---------- | |||
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don't let one clerk set the future for you and your coworkers from overseas. Do the research if you find their reasoning for the position to be incorrect then talk with a manager, explain the situation, your customer status, and that the law doesn't restrict international people from shooting. Either the clerk was misinformed, the company legal beagle made an error in research, or they just don't want specific people shooting. Or just find a range that will work with you. | |||
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I did some more Googling tonight and I think I found the actual chain of statutes that apply. Here is 18 U.S.C. 922(g)(5)(B): Continuing on to 18 U.S.C. 922(y)(2): Sure wish the range's QR code pointed to 18 U.S.C. 922(y)(2) instead of pointing to State Dept's Visa Waiver Program Ego is the anesthesia that deadens the pain of stupidity DISCLAIMER: These are the author's own personal views and do not represent the views of the author's employer. | |||
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Sort of. 27 CFR 178.97 only applies to loan or rental of a firearm by licensee, club, or association. 18 U.S.C. 922 that I posted on Wednesday covers my situation (i.e. not renting, not buying ammo, and just shooting on their range). Ego is the anesthesia that deadens the pain of stupidity DISCLAIMER: These are the author's own personal views and do not represent the views of the author's employer. | |||
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