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Trump: Time to Go Nuclear to End Govt Shutdown

President Donald Trump said Thursday it is time to get rid of the Senate's filibuster custom to bypass a Democrat roadblock during the ongoing government shutdown.

The "filibuster" is the Senate rule that requires 60 of the chamber's 100 members to agree to pass most legislation. Republicans hold a 53-47 majority in the Senate and a 219-213 majority in the House of Representatives.

"It is now time for the Republicans to play their 'TRUMP CARD,' and go for what is called the Nuclear Option — Get rid of the Filibuster, and get rid of it, NOW," Trump wrote on Truth Social.

The partial shutdown was in its 30th day on Thursday with no end in sight.

The federal government shutdown could cost the U.S. economy between $7 billion and $14 billion, shaving up to 2% from gross domestic product in the fourth quarter due to the lapse in government spending, the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office said on Wednesday.

Trump's full two-part Truth Social statement late Thursday night:

I just got back from Asia where I met the Leaders of many Countries, including China, Japan, South Korea, Malaysia, Australia, Canada, New Zealand, Singapore, Thailand, Cambodia, Vietnam, and others. It was a Great Honor to meet them but, more particularly, to see that America is respected again — RESPECTED LIKE NEVER BEFORE! Great Trade Deals were made, Long Term relationships now exist, and money is pouring into our Country because of Tariffs and, frankly, the Landslide Results of the 2024 Presidential Election. The one question that kept coming up, however, was how did the Democrats SHUT DOWN the United States of America, and why did the powerful Republicans allow them to do it? The fact is, in flying back, I thought a great deal about that question, WHY?

Majority Leader John Thune, and Speaker of the House Mike Johnson, are doing a GREAT job, but the Democrats are Crazed Lunatics that have lost all sense of WISDOM and REALITY. It is a sick form of the now “legendary” Trump Derangement Syndrome (TDS) that only comes from losing too much. They want Trillions of Dollars to be taken from our Healthcare System and given to others, who are not deserving — People who have come into our Country illegally, many from prisons and mental institutions. This will hurt American citizens, and Republicans will not let it happen. It is now time for the Republicans to play their “TRUMP CARD,” and go for what is called the Nuclear Option — Get rid of the Filibuster, and get rid of it, NOW! Just a short while ago, the Democrats, while in power, fought for three years to do this, but were unable to pull it off because of Senators Joe Manchin of West Virginia and Kyrsten Sinema of Arizona. Never have the Democrats fought so hard to do something because they knew the tremendous strength that terminating the Filibuster would give them. They want to substantially expand (PACK!) the United States Supreme Court, make Washington, D.C. and Puerto Rico States (Thereby automatically picking up 4 Senate seats, many House seats, and at least 8 Electoral Votes!), and many other highly destructive things. Well, now WE are in power, and if we did what we should be doing, it would IMMEDIATELY end this ridiculous, Country destroying “SHUT DOWN.” If the Democrats ever came back into power, which would be made easier for them if the Republicans are not using the Great Strength and Policies made available to us by ending the Filibuster, the Democrats will exercise their rights, and it will be done in the first day they take office, regardless of whether or not we do it. In addition to all of the other things we would get, such as the best Judges, the best U.S. Attorneys, the best of everything, this was a concept from years ago of then President Barack Hussein Obama and former Majority Leader Harry Reid in order to take advantage of the Republicans. Now I want to do it in order to take advantage of the Democrats. BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT THE DEMOCRATS HAVE GONE STONE COLD “CRAZY,” THE CHOICE IS CLEAR — INITIATE THE “NUCLEAR OPTION,” GET RID OF THE FILIBUSTER AND, MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!

WOW, ending the filibuster is risky business to say the least and a Pandora's box. I really hope it doesn't come to that being a huge blow to the republic and hard push toward being a democracy.

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WOW, ending the filibuster is risky business to say the least and a Pandora's box. I really hope it doesn't come to that.

I agree! It's more trouble than it's worth, guaranteed near-immediate backfire, too.

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Trump: Time to Go Nuclear to End Govt Shutdown

President Donald Trump said Thursday it is time to get rid of the Senate's filibuster custom to bypass a Democrat roadblock during the ongoing government shutdown.

I agree. End the filibuster rule.

The Filibuster Explained

The procedure, whose use has increased dramatically in recent decades, has troubling implications for democracy.

Traditionally, the Senate filibuster was reserved for only the most controversial issues, but its use has escalated in recent years, often slowing business in the chamber to a halt. Some lawmakers acknowledge that the filibuster, which has effectively set a 60-vote supermajority requirement for passing legislation in the Senate, could doom many of the proposals they have championed, including meaningful reforms on issues ranging from health care to climate change to gun control. Behind this dysfunction, the filibuster also has a troubling legacy: it has often been used to block civil rights legislation intended to combat racial discrimination.

As advocates push for pro-democracy legislation, calls for eliminating the filibuster have grown louder. In his remarks at the funeral of civil rights hero and congressman John Lewis in July 2020, former President Barack Obama called the filibuster a “Jim Crow relic,” arguing that the procedure should be eliminated if it is used to block voting reforms. Others note that certain types of legislation are already exempt from the filibuster’s supermajority requirement and argue that a similar exemption should be made for voting rights.

What is a filibuster?

In the Senate, a filibuster is an attempt to delay or block a vote on a piece of legislation or a confirmation. To understand the filibuster, it’s necessary first to consider how the Senate passes a bill. When a senator or a group of senators introduces a new bill, it goes to the appropriate committee for discussion, hearings, and amendments. If a majority of that committee votes in favor, the bill moves to the Senate floor for debate.

Once a bill gets to a vote on the Senate floor, it requires a simple majority of 51 votes to pass after debate has ended. But there’s a catch: before it can get to a vote, it actually takes 60 votes to cut off debate, which is why a 60-vote supermajority is now considered the de facto minimum for passing legislation in the Senate.
What’s the history of the filibuster and its supermajority requirement?

Under original Senate rules, cutting off debate required a motion that passed with a simple majority. But in 1806, after Vice President Aaron Burr argued that the rule was redundant, the Senate stopped using the motion.

This change inadvertently gave senators the right to unlimited debate, meaning that they could indefinitely delay a bill without supermajority support from ever getting to a vote. This tactic is what we now know as a filibuster.

In 1917, the Senate passed Rule XXII, or the cloture rule, which made it possible to break a filibuster with a two-thirds majority. In 1975, the Senate reduced the requirement to 60 votes, which has effectively become the minimum needed to pass a law.

There are, however, exceptions to the filibuster rule. Perhaps the most notable recent example pertains to presidential appointments. In 2013, Democrats changed the Senate rules to enable the confirmation of executive branch positions — including the cabinet — and of non–Supreme Court judicial nominees with a simple majority. Four years later, Senate Republicans expanded the change to include Supreme Court appointments. Both changes invoked what is known as the nuclear option, or an override of a rule to overcome obstruction by the minority.

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I doubt the republicans have the votes to do it in the senate. But if they tried and failed it would guarantee justification for the democrats to pass it next time they get in power and pass all their dream legislation such as gun bans, citizenship for illegals, no voter ID nation wide for federal candidates, create a couple new states, pack the courts, raise tax rates on corporations and "the rich", censorship galore, etc etc..

^^^ I understand and appreciate your concerns, grumpy1.

However, the country cannot continue to be held hostage by a minority of Democrats.

Under original Senate rules, cutting off debate required a motion that passed with a simple majority.

Thanks chellim1, It's going to be interesting to see what happens.

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it would guarantee justification for the democrats to pass it next time they get in power and pass all their dream legislation

^^THIS^^
If that genie is out of the bottle, all hell breaks loose when the D’s get power.
The gov shutdown is only propped up by the rabid minority. Keep it shut down and fire any non-essential employees. There shouldn’t be ANY non-essential employees anyway. Cull the herd!

Never toss the winning of the war, for the sake of a single battle.

Could we have a new thing to remove points of conflict within a bill to a stand alone vote? So the debate would be on that issue and its merits alone

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End the filibuster rule.

And then end Obamacare on the next vote.

Here is another point of view on the filibuster, I can see the views on both sides of this debate, and I am glad I don't have to make the decision. Although I agree the Democrats will probably eliminate it anyway when they don't get their way, and they have enough power back to do so.


It’s Time to Nuke the Senate Filibuster

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I see a lot of spineless Trump supporters saying “we can’t get rid of the filibuster because the Dems will abuse it when they are in power”.

You fools don’t get it.

We are already in all-out irregular warfare. We are already under attack. The Dems have already weaponized every lever of government and the private sector against Trump and the American People. They already brainwashed the planet, flooded the country with illegals, released a man-made biological weapon, and are trying to overthrow Trump, AGAIN!

If the Dems gain control again, it doesn’t matter how nice we were to them. They will destroy us and our way of life regardless. This is already their mission even if we don’t get rid of the filibuster.

And if Trump succeeds in his mission of deporting the tens of millions of illegals, securing elections, draining the swamp, and arresting the traitors, the Dems will never win an election again.

Many don’t seem to grasp the magnitude of the situation. This is the final battle for the Republic. If we don’t win decisively here and now during Trump’s term, it’s over.

We must completely obliterate the Deep State, deport the Dems’ illegal voters, and safeguard future elections. Once this happens, the Dems will never win again, and we can begin rebuilding this nation.

Those of you afraid of what the Dems might do… where have you been the last 10 years? They already crossed every line. They already unleashed war upon us. We either win now, or we become a one-party Left-wing state, and the nation, and therefore the world, will be lost forever.

Thune Defies Trump, Won’t Abolish Filibuster to End Democrats’ Shutdown.

https://thenationalpulse.com/2...-democrats-shutdown/

Senate Majority Leader John Thune (R-SD) has indicated Republicans will not invoke the so-called “nuclear option” and enact a rule change to scrap the legislative filibuster, despite urging from President Donald J. Trump to do so. Thune spokesman, Ryan Wrasse, confirmed on Friday that the Senate Republican leader’s stance is “unchanged” and emphasized the filibuster’s role as a safeguard against undesirable legislation. “Leader Thune’s position on the importance of the legislative filibuster is unchanged,” Wrasse said.

Late Thursday, in a post on Truth Social, President Trump called on Senate Republicans to eliminate the 60-vote threshold required to advance most legislation to break the ongoing Democrat-caused government shutdown. The rule change would allow Republicans to pass funding measures without needing Democratic support.

The Senate has adjourned for the weekend, although discussions among members are expected to continue in an effort to end the shutdown. The situation is compounded by the looming expiration of funding for the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP), which could impact 42 million Americans.

Thune has previously articulated that the filibuster serves as a critical barrier to prevent “a lot of really bad things” from happening. The National Pulse has previously reported that Sens. Bernie Moreno (R-OH) and John Fetterman (D-PA) have backed a push to end the filibuster. However, some longtime Capitol Hill observers warn that Republicans moving to end the filibuster may actually be the outcome Democrats desire most.

Fine by me

Missing in most articles on "the filibuster" is that it is actually merely the threat of a filibuster. One side merely states that they will filibuster a bill or amendment, and it automatically invokes the 2/3 majority requirement. I would approve making the theat real, make an objecting member stand up in the chamber and drone on indeterminably, don't let them "filibuster" from the comfort of their offices, homes, or country clubs. How much will this suffering dissuade the practice?

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Originally posted by wcb6092:
I see a lot of spineless Trump supporters saying “we can’t get rid of the filibuster because the Dems will abuse it when they are in power”.

You fools don’t get it.

We are already in all-out irregular warfare. We are already under attack. The Dems have already weaponized every lever of government and the private sector against Trump and the American People.

If the Dems gain control again, it doesn’t matter how nice we were to them. They will destroy us and our way of life regardless.

Many don’t seem to grasp the magnitude of the situation. This is the final battle for the Republic. If we don’t win decisively here and now during Trump’s term, it’s over.

Quoted for posterity, well said. The left wants us dead, literally. Anyone hypnotized by the “decorum” of previous generations fails to understand the gravity of current operating conditions. This is a fight for survival, the time for compromise is over; we wield power decisively and ruthlessly or the country is gone within less than a generation.

GOP blame the Rats for holding America hostage, have the power to end it, yet they refuse to wield it. I see Thune’s strings are still being pulled by that McTurtle. It’s a fucking disgrace.

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Originally posted by arabiancowboy:

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Originally posted by wcb6092:
I see a lot of spineless Trump supporters saying “we can’t get rid of the filibuster because the Dems will abuse it when they are in power”.

You fools don’t get it.

We are already in all-out irregular warfare. We are already under attack. The Dems have already weaponized every lever of government and the private sector against Trump and the American People.

If the Dems gain control again, it doesn’t matter how nice we were to them. They will destroy us and our way of life regardless.

Many don’t seem to grasp the magnitude of the situation. This is the final battle for the Republic. If we don’t win decisively here and now during Trump’s term, it’s over.

Quoted for posterity, well said. The left wants us dead, literally. Anyone hypnotized by the “decorum” of previous generations fails to understand the gravity of current operating conditions. This is a fight for survival, the time for compromise is over; we wield power decisively and ruthlessly or the country is gone within less than a generation.

+1 Upvoted.

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Trump Makes First 60 Minutes Appearance Since Settling Lawsuit

President Donald Trump is returning to "60 Minutes" this weekend, his first appearance on the show since he settled a lawsuit this summer with CBS News over the newsmagazine's interview with Kamala Harris. Trump was interviewed by CBS' Norah O'Donnell on Friday at Mar-a-Lago for the appearance, which will air this Sunday.

The president has an uneasy history with television's most popular newsmagazine. But he has signaled friendlier relations with CBS News after the takeover of its parent company this summer by new Paramount CEO David Ellison, the son of wealthy supporter Larry Ellison.

CBS News offered few details Friday on how the interview came together, or whether there were any ground rules put in place. O'Donnell, the former "CBS Evening News" anchor, is not one of the show's regular correspondents.

Trump walked out of a "60 Minutes" interview with correspondent Lesley Stahl shortly before the 2020 election, complaining of bias, and his team released an unedited transcript of the conversation.

Despite invitations, he did not agree to a "60 Minutes" interview during the 2024 election campaign. But he complained that the newsmagazine's interview with Harris, his Democrat opponent, was edited deceptively in order to make her look good.

CBS News strongly denied any wrongdoing, but Trump filed a lawsuit against the company. Paramount decided to pay Trump $16 million to settle the case this summer, shortly before the Federal Communications Commission approved Paramount's merger with Ellison's Skydance Media.

In the wake of the Trump lawsuit, "60 Minutes" executive producer Bill Owens resigned this past spring, saying that it was becoming clear that he could no longer run the program independently.

Since taking over at Paramount, Ellison has sent signals of a closer relationship with Trump. He hired Kenneth Weinstein, the former head of a conservative think tank and a donor to Trump's 2024 campaign, to serve in a role investigating complaints that the network had shown bias in its reporting.

Paramount also purchased the Free Press website in October and named its founder, Bari Weiss, as the new editor-in-chief of CBS News. Weiss reportedly had a role in booking the president's son-in-law, Jared Kushner, and aide Steve Witkoff for a "60 Minutes" interview two weeks ago, talking about the peace deal in Gaza.

Flying back from the Middle East on Oct. 12, Trump told reporters that "Larry Ellison is great, and his son David is great. They're friends of mine. They're big supporters of mine, and they'll do the right thing."