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If you saw the Fox News Report you saw a very weak attempt to soft pedal the Epstein issue with dismissiveness. Some combination of Bondi, Patel or President Trump is misleading the country.

President Trump Appears Frustrated About Continued Jeffrey Epstein Questions

I’ll put the entire cabinet meeting in another post. It is interesting that RFK Jr. was not present (?).

For this outline, let’s focus on the issue that is exploding the MAGA and anti-MAGA universe on social media right now. President Trump and Pam Bondi’s response to a question about Jeffrey Epstein and the controversial DOJ/FBI memo that now states there is no “third party” or “client list” connected to the Epstein sex trafficking.

Obviously, President Trump is not happy with attention focused on the Epstein issues. The most likely reason for the frustration expressed is simply that President Trump is unaware how much the Epstein issues are -and have been- part of the background focus within the base of his support. Here’s the segment.
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First, kudos to Marco Rubio for his stone faced and remarkably unaffected disposition within the exchange. It takes time and experience to remain stoic at this level. Exceptional control.

Second, everyone here has a reasonable BS detector – meaning we can tell when a person is not telling the truth. It is transparently obvious AG Pam Bondi is extremely uncomfortable with the Epstein issue, and her responses indicate she is not being honest or forthright. You could say, she’s lying; however, the facts of her presentation are a little more complicated.

The main issue around Bondi’s less-than-fulsome response is the motive. Is she lying because she’s just grossly incompetent about the issue, or is she lying because she is nefarious in her intent. The Occam’s Razor answer to her obvious parseltongue is a combination of both.

Former AG Pam Bondi, now Attorney General Pam Bondi is entirely over her head when it comes to highly sensitive and critically important issues. She does not have the intellectual acumen to engage on a subject that is both complex and sensitive. Bondi is an unmoored ship, floating in the direction of tides, waves and winds on any particular subject.

When a controversial issue arises, the character of the individual becomes more visible. Direct honesty is challenging to an unmoored person because they are always guesstimating, attempting to navigate and find the best position with themselves as the focus of the issue, not the issue itself.

In general terms, when a person is unmoored, the personal character trait of ‘how does this affect me’ surfaces quickly and visibly whenever a topic of discomfort surfaces. If that topic is one of high public interest, the prism of self-interest, brutally visible, then creates the realization of distrust. This outward appearance cannot be hidden and begins the person into a downward spiral that becomes even more clear when the predictable anger defensive mechanism is triggered. We see all of that in Bondi’s reaction to the question.

This aspect of Pam Bondi’s character was why CTH was out front of the nomination in saying this could be a problem. If she was willing to go along with the fabrication of a false witness in the Zimmerman case, what does that tell us about predicting her behavior as the U.S. Attorney General? That reality was the source of our concern. Now people are starting to see it surface.

Bondi is both lying from incompetence, simply her words do not pass the standard of common sense, and she is lying from a position that the DOJ/FBI claims just simply do not add up.

Unfortunately, both Bondi and Trump’s response to the Epstein issue now open a huge gate for the opposition to exploit. Elon Musk and his legions of anti-Trumpers, both new and old, will now enjoy enhanced support as their attack exploits will benefit from visible obfuscation. MAGA people will begin to distrust, that opens the door for anti-MAGA elements to engage in the issue that both Bondi and Trump obfuscate. This is not good.

https://theconservativetreehou...estions/#more-273934

Epstein was charged by the Feds with trafficking of minors in Florida and New York. That means interstate trafficking which is a federal crime. Maxwell was convicted of being an accomplice. I don't think there is any evidence that any visitors to Epstein's island were involved in the trafficking.

I think is general agreement that there is a high likelihood that SOME visitors engaged in sexual activity with underaged girls. The unrestricted age of consent in the USVI is 18, and the penalty for "statutory rape" varies with the age of the victim - under 13, between 13 and 16, and between 16 and 18. There are age proximity stipulations as well, but I'm going to assume the men were old enough for those not to apply.

Any charges for such activity would be local charges in the USVI, not Federal charges. So this very well could be an issue of DOJ not having jurisdiction and not being able to bring charges. When, if ever, the USVI would bring any charges and why they have not is a separate question.

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Any charges for such activity would be local charges in the USVI, not Federal charges. So this very well could be an issue of DOJ not having jurisdiction and not being able to bring charges. When, if ever, the USVI would bring any charges and why they have not is a separate question.

You might want to review 18 U.S.C. § 2423 which can impose a sentence of 10 years to life imprisonment for sexual acts with minors while outside the U.S.

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President Trump Appears Frustrated About Continued Jeffrey Epstein Questions

He's not alone.

I seem to recall that quite some time ago, I told the forum I didn't want to hear any more about this stuff. That was when people all over social media were randomly interjecting "Epstein didn't commit suicide" into a wide range of topics.

I can barely remember myself what I said, so it's not fair to expect that anyone else here would remember. I'll allow a bit more discussion of the topic since it's in the news once again, but I will tell you that I won't allow this thread to turn into the Epstein Saga.

Carefully consider what you post on this topic, and especially how much you post on this topic. Make it count.

Hope this acceptable, if not I'll delete, I was editing when you posted that......

This could simply be a case of child porn, child/human trafficking, pedophile that was Epstein the pervert engaging in his activities. We have been led around by the nose into believing there was some massive pedophile ring of powerful rich people funding Epstein’s life flying down to his island to screw young girls. Maybe there were, maybe not...

The idea arose that former FBI/DOJ staff was hiding powerful people’s names as the reason they were not putting this out. However, it's entirely possible that seeing Trump beating the Epstein drum during the campaign, they knowing that it was a never going to see the light of day, just shoved it under a desk and let it sit, knowing it would blow back on Trump.

ShipWreckCrew (previous page) stated it clearly, the DOJ doesn't publish names, ever, of anyone that is not under indictment. Young girls, now women would need to come forward and allege Epstein trafficked them, provide details of what happened, with whom, dates, times, anything to substantiate the claim.

The DOJ will not release names of the men/women involved without having charged them, since, without cooperation from the girls means there would be no convictions and since there isn’t anyone filing charges, there can be no indictments. This could be because who wants to relive that time of their lives, and put it out on social media, the news for everyone to see, ruining their new lives.

As much as everyone thinks there is a list, and there may be one, none of us would want our name out in the public eye, without having been indicted by a grand jury that has seen evidence of wrongdoing, and that’s likely what is happening here.

Much of this was fired up by Trump during the election, and the Conservative pundits on X ran with it, and we bought into it thinking it’s something massive to be exposed. Aat no time did the social media people have the information they have been posting about that substantiated a list.

During the campaign It was all hype to stir up the base, and, in the end for whatever reason I don’t think DJT thought it would get this far. When you have plenty of people who beat the Epstein drum about the corrupt DC agencies and it falls apart on you, it looks bad.

Epstein was a child molesting trafficking pervert, his accomplice helped facilitate it, she's in jail for those actions.

It is being made relevant to Trumps presidency as he appointed Bondi, she's made a mess of it by not explaining it well, and he has to deal with it, similar to dealing with Musk, it takes away from the progress that he wants to focus on.

This too will pass

I am neither hot or cold on the AG. Time will tell not based on this bs. I could care less about any of it.
The rich and powerful will almost always be involved in sex scandals of some sort.

Been that way since the beginning.

E off'ed hisself. And his partner is behind bars. I am good with that at this point. Move on. The end.

https://www.foxnews.com/politi...tion-doj-sources.amp

She seems to be going after Comey and Brennan so she is doing things. Maybe expectations are just too high?

They should’ve kept their mouths shut about it. A bunch of people, myself included, don’t care for the gaslighting. The casual attitude about here is quite shocking, really. Just because they work for President Trump doesn’t give them a free pass to lie.

I don't care and I don't care if it bothers anyone that I don't care. My fucks dispenser is empty. It needs a refill, or maybe not.

I'm not giving anyone a pass. I'm saying that we have much bigger fish to fry.

Epstein Shmepstein. Get Brennan and Comey.

Supreme Court Greenlights Trump’s Federal Government Purge

https://newsaddicts.com/suprem..._campaign=newsletter

The U.S. Supreme Court delivered a major victory for President Donald Trump on Tuesday, overruling a Clinton-appointed judge and greenlighting mass layoffs and deep restructuring across the federal government.

In an 8–1 decision, the Court struck down District Judge Susan Illston’s May 22 restraining order, which had blocked Trump’s sweeping Executive Order to reduce the size and scope of the administrative state. Only Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson dissented.

Clinton-Appointed Judge Tried to Block Trump’s Overhaul
Judge Illston, appointed by Bill Clinton, issued her now-defunct ruling in response to a lawsuit from the AFL-CIO and the American Federation of Government Employees — both left-wing public sector unions desperate to protect their grip on bloated federal agencies.

Her outrageous claim? That the President of the United States needs Congress’ permission to restructure agencies that report to him.

Incredibly, she even quoted anonymous “conservative former officials” who argued that presidential authority should be limited — despite the fact that the Executive Branch is constitutionally under the president’s command.

Trump’s Order: Cut the Waste, Fire the Bureaucrats
President Trump signed his “Big Beautiful Bureaucracy Reform Order” in February, directing the Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) to immediately:

Eliminate redundant programs

Close outdated and unnecessary offices

Launch Reduction-in-Force (RIF) notices across at least 20 federal agencies

The goal? Drain the swamp — for real this time.

Agencies targeted for cuts include:

Department of Agriculture

Department of Commerce

Department of Health and Human Services

Department of State

Department of the Treasury

Department of Veterans Affairs

Plus over a dozen more

SCOTUS: Trump Can Govern His Own Branch

more at link

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This could simply be a case of child porn, child/human trafficking, pedophile that was Epstein the pervert engaging in his activities...

Epstein the pervert is dead... no one really cares about Epstein.

But this won't go away because it's about more than Epstein. It's about lying, cover-up and blackmail.

Journalist Nick Bryant notes in this viral clip from the Shawn Ryan podcast that the Jeffrey Epstein case is being covered up by the federal government and will never progress because it would destroy their entire operational system.

“Epstein had cameras in all of his homes. Epstein was definitely a blackmail artist,” Bryant notes.

“The government wants to make sure that that does not come out. A huge part of our political system is predicated on blackmail,” he adds.

“If that dark, malignant corner of the intelligence that is using blackmail against our politicians and other people, if they were using children, that would make the American people erupt,” Bryant further urges.

He continues, “For that dark corner of intelligence, this is Omaha Beach. They’re not going to give an inch.”

“If you look at all the victims and all the perpetrators and all the procurers involved in the Epstein network … no one’s been indicted except for Ghislaine Maxwell,” the journalist explains.

“That really shows that our government, unfortunately, wants to stop it there,” he adds.

“Why is our government aiding, abetting child trafficking unless they’re protecting some very powerful people and a political process?” Bryant posits.

“That’s the only way that it makes sense,” he concludes.

https://x.com/CollinRugg/statu...-will-never-progress



https://modernity.news/2025/07...will-never-progress/

As we highlighted yesterday, President Trump and Attorney General Pam Bondi responded very tersely to a reporter’s question about the Epstein case Tuesday, with Trump clearly disgusted that it was still being brought up.

Trump vowed to provide transparency on the case, yet his DOJ is putting up a brick wall, prompting many of his supporters to call it out as unacceptable.

Many have found themselves reluctantly having to agree with the likes of Trump hater Cenk Uygur and CNN propagandist Jake Tapper.

https://x.com/CollinRugg/statu...-will-never-progress



Meanwhile Representative Anna Paulina Luna,who chairs the Task Force on the Declassification of Federal Secrets, notes in an X post, “The American people deserve to know truth ref. Epstein, regardless of who it impacts.”

She added that there is further evidence that can be authorised for release, declaring that she will push for it.

“The American people should be free to come to their own conclusions. The Truth will always come out one way or another,” Luna urged.

https://x.com/JohnMcCloy/statu...n-epstein-coverup%2F



https://www.zerohedge.com/poli...-will-never-progress

we should have term limits for the Fed Chair - Powell's term should be up on Friday

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we should have term limits for the Fed Chair - Powell's term should be up on Friday

“The Fed Chair does not have term limits for their overall service as a Federal Reserve Governor, but they do have a four-year term limit specifically for the position of Chair.”
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Ol' Jerome's on his way out. Larry Kudlow was just on Fox, laying it all out, making the case that Powell's stance is politically motivated and indefensible, so much so that Austan Goolsbee, the president of the Federal Reserve Bank of Chicago and a former member of Obama's cabinet has publicly stated that President Trump's tariffs have and and will not cause inflation, which Powell states is his chief reason for his stubborn refusal to lower the interest rate.

Powell's term is up in January but he's not going to make it. He may not even make it to the end of this month. Piece of shit, screwing with the lives of people trying to buy homes or obtain loans. He should be in jail for his behavior.

Guys, I know I am a day late, but I got to tell someone. One of the feds I work with actually said something like: "Sotomayor is Orange Man loving MAGA". This is in reference to yesterday's SCOTUS ruling that affirms POTUS can layoff feds. I know we all know that the left will eat the left, but I thought Sotomayor was for lack of better terms a made woman or untouchable.

For the time being, I am going to trust DJT and his minions. As he said, right now there are more important tasks to be dealt with. I think when the time is right there will be follow up on the issue, but this is not that time. He has already made good on more pre election promises than most Presidents do in four or even eight years. Let the cards fall when they will. Let the man take a breath and then continue. Priorities need to come first. Epstein is dead so there is no further penalty that can be done to him and everyone already knows that he is guilty as sin. If there are others that need to be punished, they will be dealt with in due time.

https://www.oann.com/newsroom/...leads-5th-amendment/

The only question he answered was his name!

“Dr. O’Connor pleaded the Fifth Amendment,” Comer revealed. “I’m gonna read the first two questions that were asked.”

“‘Were you ever told to lie about the president’s health?’ He pleaded the Fifth Amendment,” the chairman said. “‘Did you ever believe President Biden was unfit to execute his duties?’ Again, President Biden’s White House physician pleaded the Fifth Amendment.”

An Oversight spokesperson stated that the only question that O’Connor answered, before the deposition concluded, was confirming his full name.”

Re: Epstein. I am just incredulous that the man known for having his entire NYC and BVI palaces on CCTV either obviously or hidden camera, there is NO video of known very rich and powerful men, of which we KNOW dozens if not hundreds of names via flight logs all just came over to the old beach house for cocktails ? So there is NO video of them with underage girls? It just doesn’t pass the smell test.

RE: Pam Bondi. This chick is either incompetent or a liar. Or both. Neither of which is a good place to be in. We know she was taking millions as a lobbyist for Qatar in the days leading up to her being the second choice as AG. I don’t trust her.

Is it all a head fake and they are secretly still investigating Epstein related crimes ? Maybe. Hopefully.

I want to see Comey and Brennan in jumpsuits. Is it a pipe dream ? Likely. The same DC jury pool that was going to convict trump of anything including spitting on the sidewalk will set them free even if there is tape of them lying to congress under oath. But the process is punishment and if it bankrupts them to defend themselves that’s ok as well.

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RE: Pam Bondi. This chick is either incompetent or a liar. Or both.

I'm going with incompetent attention-seeker. She totally blew the public relations aspect of the Epstein case. She was going to release it--no, she found out people in NY were hiding stuff--no she's got the files right her on my desk. She needs to go. We need a tough guy (as in XY) for AG.

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RE: Pam Bondi. This chick is either incompetent or a liar. Or both.

I'm going with incompetent attention-seeker. She totally blew the public relations aspect of the Epstein case. She was going to release it--no, she found out people in NY were hiding stuff--no she's got the files right her on my desk. She needs to go. We need a tough guy (as in XY) for AG.

This is my feeling on the matter as well. If she proves me wrong in the long run, so be it, but I’d rather see a Tom Homan type as AG.