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Well the list existed and then it didn’t. It’s can’t be right. So someone is a liar. And if there is no list and no files, why is Maxwell in jail? Too much inconsistent info and it cannot all be true. | |||
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The Epstein shit is so very far down the list of things I care about in regards to the Trump administration, it barely registers on my meter. ![]() "I’m not going to read Time Magazine, I’m not going to read Newsweek, I’m not going to read any of these magazines; I mean, because they have too much to lose by printing the truth"- Bob Dylan, 1965 | |||
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Wasn’t it reported at one point after the first deadline from Bondi came and went that the documents were at the NYC field office and they were being destroyed. If they can’t get the simple stuff right and tell us the truth how can we trust them to tell us the truth on bigger things that matter. | |||
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Let's see how this falls out. As corrupt as the FBI and DOJ under Biden were, he could have had it destroyed to protect all the donors. I seriously doubt the evidence didn't exist since there was evidence to convict both of them. I'm looking forward to see what Dan Bongino has to say. He hinted there something was coming out. SIG556 Classic P220 Carry SAS Gen 2 SAO SP2022 9mm German Triple Serial P938 SAS P365 FDE P322 FDE Psalm 118:24 "This is the day which the Lord hath made; we will rejoice and be glad in it" | |||
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A man like Epstein is going to keep a client list. That’s was an enormous amount of power in the palm of his hand. It’s somewhere. No one's life, liberty or property is safe while the legislature is in session.- Mark Twain | |||
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I don't care. In terms of what we need to do to undo the damage done to this country, Epstein and his list do not matter. | |||
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If there is no list then there is no list. I do not question the people Trump has hand-picked to work under him as that would mean I am in effect questioning Trump's competency. | |||
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Here's a great read on the history of political blackmail in the US dating back to the 1920's. And yes, the Maxwell family is right in the thick of it. One Nation Under Blackmail by Whitney Webb | |||
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They aren't going to tell us the truth because it would implicate too many important people, of both parties, probably including at least one Supreme Court member. Blondi herself said a while ago, that there were national security issues involved. What does that mean? The government's Epstein problem By Nick Lopez None of us ever would have heard of Jeffery Epstein had the government not brought him up. It was the government that brought charges against him. The government told us that he was “the most prolific child sex trafficker in history.” The government said he was “with intelligence.” The government cut him a sweetheart deal. The government was taken to court by “John Doe” over what the government called “client lists.” The government courts made a ruling about the “client lists” not being released. Senator Dick Durbin blocked release of the “client list” in the legislative branch of the government. The government said it had “client lists” on its desk. The government was the entity that created the term “client list” as it relates to Epstein. And as much as I would love to blame some of this on the media, their source on all things Epstein… was the government. Weird lies and “disclosures” for seemingly no reason, contradictory statements, the inability to produce a coherent explanation for anything. The few times that a person in my life was acting like the government now is, I found out later that they were cheating. The government is lying about Jeffery Epstein. Either they were lying then, or they’re lying now, maybe both. They don’t get to claim that there’s no client lists after issuing statements going back over a decade saying there were “client lists.” Were they lying then when they described Epstein as a “large trafficking ring”? Or are they lying now when claiming that the “ring” consisted of exactly two people and Prince Andrew? The government doesn’t get to split themselves out of this. The Palm Beach Police Department, the CIA, and the DoJ all fly the same flag in front of HQ -- they’re all “the government” on this one, one entity, working together, just like during COVID. Was the government lying then when they said they had thousands of hours of videos showing the most disgusting things imaginable? Or are they lying now when they maintain that the only thing that happened was 17-year-old girls giving Jeffrey a back massage with a happy ending (while gross, a far cry from “most disgusting things imaginable”)? Speaking of video, the government claimed that the cameras outside of Epstein’s cell were malfunctioning (while the guards were napping), now they post 10 hours of video from the malfunctioning devices? How did Epstein make his money? Why doesn’t the government know? Did he build a billion-dollar empire $9,999.99 at a time and avoid reporting anything to the IRS ever? The government is and has been lying about Epstein… the question is why? https://www.americanthinker.co...jeffrey_epstein.html "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." -- Justice Janice Rogers Brown "The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth." -rduckwor | |||
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Trump admin unveils National Farm Security Action Plan on foreign ownership, safeguarding research https://justthenews.com/govern..._campaign=newsletter Senior Trump administration officials announced a plan Tuesday to protect U.S. farmland from Chinese ownership and other threats to American agricultural resources. “Every family, every home, every community depends upon what our farmers do, and they support and sustain us, not merely by keeping us materially fed, but by keeping us spiritually strong,” Agriculture Secretary Brooke Rollins said at a press conference. “The farm's produce is not just a commodity, it is a way of life that underpins America itself, and that's exactly why it is under threat from criminals, from political adversaries, and from hostile regimes that understand our way of life as a profound and existential threat to themselves." The new plan seeks to secure U.S. farmland from adversaries like China, ensure a strong supply chain, and protect American agricultural research security – especially after recent attempts by Chinese researchers to smuggle deadly plant pathogens into the United States. In response to this vulnerability, Rollins said that she had terminated contracts or research arrangements between the U.S. Department of Agriculture and 70 scientists who are citizens from countries of concern, like China. Last month, two Chinese nationals working in a university laboratory in Michigan were charged for attempting to smuggle a fungus called Fusarium graminearum into the United States in 2024, Just the News reported. The fungus is classified in the scientific literature as a “potential agroterrorism weapon” because it affects wheat, barley, maize, and rice by causing “head blight,” according to the Justice Department. A Just the News investigation found that these scientists were working for researchers at the laboratory who were receiving funding from the federal government. She also said that her department “canceled seven active agreements with entities in foreign countries of concern.” Rollins’ announcement follows years of growing concerns about Chinese ownership of U.S. farmland and the potential threats to national security, including to the food supply chain. Some lawmakers have also raised concerns about the proximity of Chinese-owned land to military bases and sensitive installations. In recent years, foreign countries, including China, have increased their purchases of American land. In 2023 the federal government assessed that foreign parties held more than 43.4 million acres, of which 48% was forest land, 28% cropland, 21% pasture and other agricultural land, and 2% non-agricultural land. In response, several states passed legislation targeted at Chinese-owned farmland. Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis championed a law banning citizens from foreign countries of corners—like China, Russia, and Iran—from owning farmland in the state. _________________________ | |||
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In order for there to be a prosecution, you have to have a victim that is willing to testify. As of yet, I am not aware of any victims implicating anyone else but Epstein, Maxwell, and Prince Andrew. it is possible that anyone who doesn't want to be exposed has already bought the silence of any young women in question. It is also possible that the Biden administration destroyed evidence implicating their allies. You can be sure that if there was any evidence implicating Donald Trump, it would have been released and he would have been prosecuted. | |||
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Good. God bless America. | |||
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And, it could be just a case of a pedophile and child porn that was blown up beyond it's reality on social media, wouldn't be the first time.... https://x.com/shipwreckedcrew/.../1942426380412805568 In case folks don't want to X or click Show More.... Here is the full post on X..... BTW the poster is a former DOJ prosecutor and J6 Defense attorney. There are likely hundreds of thousands of pages of records -- millions maybe -- in the Epstein/Maxwell case. But it is a child sex trafficking and child porn case. Longstanding DOJ and Govt policy is to not re-victimize the victims by making public records relating to what happened to them. The announcement last night made that point. It also said some number of documents - maybe tens/hundreds of thousands -- have been ordered sealed by the courts involved, and they remain sealed. In addition, DOJ and the Government have a long standing policy of not publicly naming anyone in the context of suggesting criminal conduct if that person is not charged. Any "list" of names that might be released as having a connection to Epstein and Maxwell is going to be seen in that context -- whether fair or not. To prevent unfairness when that is the case, the Govt simply doesn't release names. This has ALWAYS been a "snipe hunt" by online and media personalities who obtained influencer and clout chaser status by suggesting rumor and innuendo was fact. There are several now adult women who have came forward and told their stories about their involvement with Epstein and Maxwell. Some sued and were paid. Some named other persons as having been involved. That is the public record. DOJ does not -- as a practice -- add to the public record unless it brings a civil or criminal action. DOJ files do not exist to satisfy public fascination with respect to infamous crimes. What is promised during an election campaign is irrelevant. | |||
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https://www.theepochtimes.com/...3iosjP3ZUkdHbMObQ%3D Supreme Court Clears Way for Mass Federal Layoffs The ruling lifts a lower court order halting Trump’s planned firings and restructuring of federal agencies. The Supreme Court on July 8 lifted a lower court order preventing the Trump administration from carrying out job cuts en masse and restructuring federal agencies. The new ruling lifts U.S. District Judge Susan Illston’s prior order that put large-scale layoffs known as reductions in force from moving forward while the litigation continues in the lower courts. The case is Trump v. American Federation of Government Employees. The Supreme Court said that the district court blocked the government’s actions based on its view that an executive order that President Donald Trump issued and a memorandum by the Office of Management and Budget were “unlawful.” “Because the Government is likely to succeed on its argument that the Executive Order and Memorandum are lawful—and because the other factors bearing on whether to grant a stay are satisfied— we grant the application,” the high court stated. Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson dissented from the new order. This is a developing story and will be updated. | |||
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Yes, good. Although I imagine the sellers would be happy to sell to anyone, I’ve long wondered about how policies and laws differ in other countries. Years ago a couple of friends decided to move to a Caribbean island and build a house there. I remember their discussing all the hoops they had to jump through just to buy the land, and there was nothing special about the location. ► 6.0/94.0 To operate serious weapons in a serious manner. | |||
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If you saw the Fox News Report you saw a very weak attempt to soft pedal the Epstein issue with dismissiveness. Some combination of Bondi, Patel or President Trump is misleading the country. As was mentioned upthread, there are very likely national security issues involved as well as deep reaching ties to the biggest corporations and our legislative and judicial bodies. Where the string will lead when pulled is unknown. But it must be pulled. I’m a three time Trump voter and have backed most of his actions during both administrations. I was ecstatic about Kash Patel being confirmed as Director of the FBI. This could very well prove to be the defining moment of his time in office and I have serious concerns after that broadcast and the letter from the DOJ. | |||
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