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Pay back to taxPAYERS.
 
Posts: 3099 | Location: (Occupied) Northern Minnesota | Registered: June 24, 2003Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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Yeah, this money came from taxpayers and it should go back to taxpayers.

Having said that...I think I'm with those here that believe the money needs to go back to reducing our debt.



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Posts: 5235 | Location: Lake of the Ozarks, MO. | Registered: September 05, 2005Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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I'd be worried about so much money being pumped into the economy exacerbating inflation.
 
Posts: 3937 | Location: Cave Creek, AZ | Registered: October 24, 2005Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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Returning $5000 to every taxpayer will open a bunch of eyes to the graft, eyes that are glued to tictoc.

$5000 that can be sent to the charity of your choice, not that of your government’s choosing. I don’t care if it’s abortion for gay whales or 2nd Amendment Foundation. Throw a party or pay off a loan it’s money that was used wastefully.


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Posts: 5290 | Location: southern Mn | Registered: February 26, 2006Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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I'd be worried about so much money being pumped into the economy exacerbating inflation.


That is EXACTLY what Biden did.
 
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I'd be worried about so much money being pumped into the economy exacerbating inflation.


That is EXACTLY what Biden did.


Well, almost. the policy of printing of money (Quantitative Easing) and borrowing increased total money supply. Not exactly the same thing.


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Posts: 2142 | Location: Berks Co PA | Registered: December 20, 2006Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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If they could take that money and lower the income tax rate, that would put more money into the working class in a better way than just cash.
 
Posts: 1530 | Location: Willcox, AZ | Registered: September 24, 2006Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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If the checks only go to taxpayers, it wouldn't be as bad as when Covid money went to everyone. But it'd probably be better still to return the money via tax cuts and credits. That would result in less of a consumer spending spree.
 
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It would make the program complicated and perhaps untenable. But why a flat amount? Why not prorated by the amount of taxes paid over a period of time? Why would 21 year old tax payer get the same flat amount, having just gained employment, vs a 65 year old tax payer having worked the past 40 years?




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Hearing the whistleblower concerning the illegal immigrants was astounding, putting me into a blinding rage… something that rarely happens to me!


This post by the alleged "whistleblower" was posted in another thread. To use a word I seem to be using a lot lately - it's bullshit. Here's my response.

First use a little bit of logic. If this was actually happening, don't you think that Fox News, Newsmax and other conservative outlets would have done stories on this by now? Why haven't they? I'll tell you why. Because it's bull shit. Why haven't any Conservative Senators or Congressmen screamed bloody murder about this? Why? Because it's bull shit. Why wouldn't this "whistleblower" take this somewhere where it would do some good if it were true. Fox News.
Law enforcement. Her Congressman etc.

Illegal aliens aren't eligible for anything from SSA. NOTHING. They can't even get a SS number. Should this have happened even once, this so called whistleblower should be reporting it to law enforcement. Or perhaps her congressional representative. Beyond the fact that illegals can't get SS numbers and DON'T qualify for ANY benefits, I know this is bull shit for several other reasons. This "whistleblower" doesn't identify herself, or even who she works for. So I don't know if she claims to work for SSA. If she made the claim that she worked for SSA, I would submit a referral to SSA OIG myself. But I know she doesn't work for SSA, because there is no such thing a LONG TERM DISABILITY. Doesn't exist. There is only SSA Disability. There is no separate category of "long term" disability. Anyone who works for SSA would never use that phrase. And she doesn't seem to even know how you qualify for disability medically. When I retired over 70% of all disability claims in NJ were medically denied because the severity or duration requirements weren't met. This "whistleblower" seems to suggest that the aliens mere allegation of medical problems would be enough to qualify them for the social benefits for life. Seemingly even with no medical evidence.


The invaders/illegals have been given SS numbers as soon as they arrive. They may be shared SS numbers, but they are given functioning SS numbers and green cards immediately. This has been reported many times, with videos of the invaders stating what they received.


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Posts: 4174 | Location: West coast | Registered: March 31, 2012Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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As much as I'd love a check for 5 grand, I feel like the savings realized by DODGE should be leveraged to balance the federal budget and pay off debt. Once that's done and we're operating in a fiscally responsible manner as a country, then we can talk about returning any surplus.

This idea is better than the COVID stimulus payments because at least they're based on spending cuts instead of pure borrowing, but they still drive inflation and are IMO more of a political stunt than a meaningful change.

There's still a lot of work to be done to get this country in the black. Keep after it, and once it's done adjust taxes accordingly.
 
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Originally posted by Rick Lee:
If the checks only go to taxpayers, it wouldn't be as bad as when Covid money went to everyone. But it'd probably be better still to return the money via tax cuts and credits. That would result in less of a consumer spending spree.

I agree with tax cuts, which is part of Trump's Big Beautiful Bill.
Tax credits, on the other hand, are often welfare payments. "Refundable tax credits" often go to people with no tax liability. We shouldn't give tax refund payments to people who don't pay taxes.



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"...Zelenskyy probably wants to keep the “gravy train” going." Cool

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Inflationary and debt reduction arguments aside, I think the moral boost and increased trust of DOGE across the country, would be a huge benefit. And I assume that's really the point of the proposal.

I'm not saying I'm for it, because it's a pretty complicated issue...as pointed out in previous posts. But I think it has it's merits.




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Inflationary and debt reduction arguments aside, I think the moral boost and increased trust of DOGE across the country, would be a huge benefit. And I assume that's really the point of the proposal.

I'm not saying I'm for it, because it's a pretty complicated issue...as pointed out in previous posts. But I think it has it's merits.


It wouldn't do anything to increase my trust. They already got my vote (and that of more than half the rest of the country), so that's a non-issue. They're doing exactly what they campaigned on, and I'm thrilled about that. If anything, stooping to a pandering political stunt like this would undermine my confidence in their motives and decision-making.
 
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As much as I'd love a check for 5 grand, I feel like the savings realized by DODGE should be leveraged to balance the federal budget and pay off debt. Once that's done and we're operating in a fiscally responsible manner as a country, then we can talk about returning any surplus.


I agree with this. Let’s get out of debt if possible.


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Yes, no checks to individuals. It's inflationary and the government is broke.
 
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Throw it at the debt. Even though $36.2T/340M people is a bit over $100k per living soul in the US, it’s a start.
 
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I am fine with it. Keep grinding through the grift.

Lets reward the tax payer for the decades long ripoff.

I think that is far.



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A tax refund, is not inflationary they're real dollars.
 
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