It is just me but the new bsa and mormons kind of deserve each. Both concepts are weird as all get out if you ask me.

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Originally posted by old rugged cross:
It is just me but the new bsa and mormons kind of deserve each. Both concepts are weird as all get out if you ask me.

No one asked you.

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Originally posted by old rugged cross:
It is just me but the new bsa and mormons kind of deserve each. Both concepts are weird as all get out if you ask me.

Someone always has to be that guy in one of these threads. Congrats.

sorry to offend you gw. You can leave off the "if you ask me" part
True enough though.
I will take that in this thread, so thanks acks.

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Originally posted by JALLEN:

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Originally posted by signewt:
so the socialists tear stuff down over decades;

what examples of anything they've build lasting a 100 years?

The God Damned Commies aren’t builders. Building stuff is not compatible with the ideals. Look at all countries under communism. Did any of them ever build anything, except walls, of course?

Socialism is a parasite, it can't produce for itself but must feed on others to survive. And like a parasite, socialism, in time, will kill the host.

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Originally posted by gw3971:

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Originally posted by old rugged cross:
It is just me but the new bsa and mormons kind of deserve each. Both concepts are weird as all get out if you ask me.

No one asked you.

Ditto that.

Yeah, love the Christian v Christian purse slapping, "old rugged cross".

How very Christian of you.



LMFAO. Pedophiles, rapists, sister wives, everyone is so pious and moral in the lot of ya.

Trap set and all the usual's snared. So easy.

I do have some mormon friends btw

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Did any of them ever build anything, except walls, of course?

About 100 million dead.

IIRC, the LDS church charters about 1/3 of all U.S. scout troops. The impact to the BSA, or whatever it’s called, will be severe.

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There is no more eloquent evidence of the decline in our culture than the disrespect Boy Scouts endured these last few decades. A pity.

So very true.

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LDS has been working on leaving BSA for a number of years. LDS churns out Eagle Scouts, really it is the parents that earn the rank, I was on a trip with an LDS troop, 10-15 boys stood around while the dads cooked...

- Girls joining BSA is really bad. Kids need a place where they can be kids without the boy - girl stresses etc...

I'm really sad about this.

I'm waiting for the collapse of this country. It is coming faster and faster.


- Eagle Scout 1989

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Originally posted by sigcrazy7:
IIRC, the LDS church charters about 1/3 of all U.S. scout troops. The impact to the BSA, or whatever it’s called, will be severe.

That is a significant number. I didn't realize it was that big.

Trail Life USA has been growing for a while and seems to be taking the spot that was once occupied by Boy Scouts:

http://www.traillifeusa.com



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Never a boy scout, nor LDS, but it would seem that the correct headline would be BSA leave the LDS...because that is truly what is going on here.

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Originally posted by sigcrazy7:
IIRC, the LDS church charters about 1/3 of all U.S. scout troops. The impact to the BSA, or whatever it’s called, will be severe.

According to the Foxnews article:

The church has long been the biggest sponsor of Boy Scout troops in the United States, constituting around 19 percent of the 2.3 million youth in the organization, the Salt Lake Tribune reported.

So it is just less than 1/5. Still a large percentage.

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Originally posted by DrDan:

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Originally posted by sigcrazy7:
IIRC, the LDS church charters about 1/3 of all U.S. scout troops. The impact to the BSA, or whatever it’s called, will be severe.

According to the Foxnews article:

The church has long been the biggest sponsor of Boy Scout troops in the United States, constituting around 19 percent of the 2.3 million youth in the organization, the Salt Lake Tribune reported.

So it is just less than 1/5. Still a large percentage.

A slight distinction...The LDS charters more than a third of the BSA troops (37% in 2013) while making up about 18-19 percent of the individual membership.

https://filestore.scouting.org...tore/pdf/210-807.pdf
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/..._America#cite_note-1

As noted, here in Utah Boy Scouting is a BIG deal, and heavily supported by the Mormons. But in spite of the Mormon support, the Scouts was actually pretty non-denominational, and I know two non-Mormon Scout leaders with non-Mormon kids in the Scouts.
They had been talking about separating for a long time, and I guess this was the breaking point.

Good for them. I would rather send my son to the Mormon Scouts than to the Non-Binary Scouts (If I had a son ).

As a member of the LDS church with kids I have held various positions in the Boy Scouts.

From being involved, I saw this coming a long time ago. It seems to me it has a lot more to do with the LDS church wanting more spiritual experience for their youth rather than just scouting stuff.

Boy Scout camps and other big activities are expensive for the parents and I think the youth in the church will be better off.

But, I had a LOT of great experiences doing scouting stuff. The trip to the Boundary Waters was a great experience. Scouting is still a great program for young boys.

The LDS churches in our area pay for every boy and girl of scouting age to be in scouts. The troop gets that money even if a particular child doesn't participate. This is in addition to the free facilities and use of church resources to facilitate trips etc.

Most of my male Mormon friends are eagle scouts. It was a very big deal and fit in their service to others mentality well. I hate that this happened but the local churches have been preparing for a while. A few of the dads I know are upset their sons will not become eagle scouts breaking a tradition of some of multi-generational eagle scouts.

Mark

Growing up in the LDS Church in NJ, there were not enough boys for a Cub Scout den. I went to a den at a Lutheran Church. Most of the other Cub Scouts were members of the sponsoring Church, but I was always made to feel welcome. When I was older, there were, at times, people in our LDS BSA Troop who were not LDS. My Troop had kids from rough inner city neighborhoods, and kids from the suburbs.

My experiences in Boy Scouts were the result of having great adult Scout leaders. Our leaders had real life experience in combat in Vietnam and in law enforcement. They made every boy feel loved, welcome, and an important part of the Troop. They were men of faith who taught us to be kind to others and believe in God. When we were with them, we learned to do good things that would serve us well later in life.

I am grateful to separate from what the BSA has become, but I will always treasure the influence of the BSA and the BSA leaders of my youth.