As a total non-drinker, that hates everything alcohol to include the people that consume it....

Its past time to put this tradition, like smoking on planes, out to pasture. Why do we need an intoxicating beverage served on airplanes? Ridiculous.

You can suck it up for two hours between sucking down your mouthwash. Shakes head.

I don’t understand why some people can’t go a couple of hours without drinking or need a drink to relax. Some people look like they’re just looking to get drunk and get the Dave Truong treatment

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Originally posted by bubbatime:
As a total non-drinker, that hates everything alcohol to include the people that consume it....

Its past time to put this tradition, like smoking on planes, out to pasture. Why do we need an intoxicating beverage served on airplanes? Ridiculous.

You can suck it up for two hours between sucking down your mouthwash. Shakes head.

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Originally posted by Edmond:
I don’t understand why some people can’t go a couple of hours without drinking or need a drink to relax. Some people look like they’re just looking to get drunk and get the Dave Truong treatment

What we need to do is get rid of people telling other people how to live. How they get so self righteous and convinced they know everything is beyond me.

They're a boil on the ass of humanity.

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Originally posted by Flash-LB:

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Originally posted by bubbatime:
As a total non-drinker, that hates everything alcohol to include the people that consume it....

Its past time to put this tradition, like smoking on planes, out to pasture. Why do we need an intoxicating beverage served on airplanes? Ridiculous.

You can suck it up for two hours between sucking down your mouthwash. Shakes head.

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Originally posted by Edmond:
I don’t understand why some people can’t go a couple of hours without drinking or need a drink to relax. Some people look like they’re just looking to get drunk and get the Dave Truong treatment

What we need to do is get rid of people telling other people how to live. How they get so self righteous and convinced they know everything is beyond me.

They're a boil on the ass of humanity.

If you don’t want to have a drink, please don’t, but do me a favor stay the hell out of my choices and what I expect when I pay an outrageous amount to travel, that includes relaxing with a cocktail or other alcoholic beverage.

Many friendships end when a reformed drunk becomes Holier than everyone because they don’t drink.

Selling alcohol on planes is lucrative. Half of college football stadiums serve alcohol for the same reason. Usage of alcohol lowers inhibitions and as a consequence there are more disturbances. As long as they are not obnoxious I don't care.

I guess the drunks and addicts can fly on another airline.
Not being able to go a couple hours without your intoxicant is a sign of weakness.

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Originally posted by Ryanp225:
I guess the drunks and addicts can fly on another airline.
Not being able to go a couple hours without your intoxicant is a sign of weakness.

Telling other people how to live is the sign of a narcissistic wannabee tyrant.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Yeah. People used to dress up to fly. Now they show up at the airport in pajamas. Lets have a dress code! They should be able to look nice for several hours.

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Originally posted by Ryanp225:
I guess the drunks and addicts can fly on another airline.
Not being able to go a couple hours without your intoxicant is a sign of weakness.

I have a pretty good understanding of addiction now, and weakness is the wrong term. Weakness is a label applied to addicts by people who don’t understand addiction. I guarantee you, there’s just about nothing that’ll come between a true addict and their next fix, and the right term for that sure isn’t weakness. Anyway, the medical community over the last half century plus disagrees with you, and so do I.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XC3Hc-rAkk

Define Irony:

Gun owners, telling other people that they shouldn't be able to participate in a legal activity....

Or is that Karenistic, I can never tell, one of the two...

Reminds me of this:


I however believe in prohibition, and I'm not joking.

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Originally posted by Sigfan Roy:
What the hell do you care if somebody decides to sneak some booze onboard a SWA or other pax airliner? Your job is to fly that big cargo jet for whoever you fly for (guessing Atlas or Kalitta) and let the SWA FAs be the sky police in regard to masks and illicit alcohol.

You guessed incorrectly, both employer and type of operation.

I did not express an opinion about the consumption of alcohol: I cited a regulation. If you think that's "schooling," that's your problem. If the topic comes up several times and each time we hear the same intent to violate the regulation, reiteration and citation is neither inappropriate, nor is it "schooling" anyone. You can read just as well as I.

A few days ago, those around me in business class on an Aer Lingus flight were served Champagne prior to takeoff, wine with meals, and so on. Rinse and repeat with other carriers on several international legs this past week or two. Most had their drink, had their meal, and slept the 9 hours of that leg.

There may be those who just can't handle making it two or three hours on a short, domestic flight, without boozing up. If they do choose to do so by self-medicating on the flight, it is a violation of federal regulation.

As for flying rubber dogshit out of hong kong, it's not so bad. I've made that run many, many times.

I do a lot of long trips, 8-14 hours. It's not alcohol I'm reaching for, especially in the latter part of the flight, but a red bull. Watermellon. Those, I'm allowed to serve to myself. So far, nobody seems to mind.

I may have referenced it before, but if you think SWA flight attendants are being the sky police over booze or masks, try riding Saudi Arabian Airlines, some time. I was holding short of the runway in Riyadh some years ago when a Saudia flight checked in with the tower to say that a passenger was drinking alcohol. It looked like every police car in Riyadh followed the airplane to the gate, surruonded it and pulled the passenger off the flight. Apparently he'd been caught with a mini-bottle, and I'd hate to be in his shoes.

Makes a simple, "can't you wait two hours until we land?" seem like open arms. I've had a few passengers over the years become hostile and combative with a bit of booze in their system, on a flight. Only once have I landed and denied carriage to the passenger, who screamed and yelled and pounded his fists and made demands. No, sir. Only one final authority on this flight, and you ain't it. Have a nice day.

On the bus.

I've watched people tossed off Greyhound for drinking, too. Imagine that.

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Originally posted by Flash-LB:
What we need to do is get rid of people telling other people how to live. How they get so self righteous and convinced they know everything is beyond me.

They're a boil on the ass of humanity.

No one is telling you how to live. I'm just wondering why people, probably people like you, can't go a couple hours without a drink. Sounds like a bigger problem to me than just "people telling you what to do." But then again, you mad that the cops tell you that you can't drink and drive, too?

I drink and I smoke, I'm not at the point where I "need" to do either to relax or go to sleep or whatever.

As a retired pro alcoholic, the real way to do it is have a couple pints of white rum and some cranberry juice in a Big Gulp while you’re waiting in line at security. Blast that sucker before the man with the blue uniform says “ID, please” and you’re golden. You gotta time it just right, but if you do, you’ll drop that empty 64oz in the trash, be passed out before the wheels go up and wake up about touchdown for a coast-to-coast flight. You never even have to bother with those little bottles. Time it wrong and you’re probably going to jail, but most of being a “functional” alcoholic is pure luck and not considering the consequences anyways.

Wow. This thread took an odd and disturbing tone.

I’m biased. It’s a huge money maker for airlines. I hate bailouts and unemployment so let them sell the stuff.

There are plenty of rules that when applied correctly keep issues to a dull roar.

Masks cause more issues now than alcohol ever have.

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Originally posted by Edmond:
No one is telling you how to live. I'm just wondering why people, probably people like you, can't go a couple hours without a drink. Sounds like a bigger problem to me than just "people telling you what to do." But then again, you mad that the cops tell you that you can't drink and drive, too?

I drink and I smoke, I'm not at the point where I "need" to do either to relax or go to sleep or whatever.

If what somebody else does, needs, or wants, doesn't negatively affect you or society in general, what business is it of yours, mine, or anyone else's to ask why they do, need, or want what they do? As long was what they're doing is lawful, so what if they drink when you think they shouldn't?

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Originally posted by P220 Smudge:

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Originally posted by Ryanp225:
I guess the drunks and addicts can fly on another airline.
Not being able to go a couple hours without your intoxicant is a sign of weakness.

I have a pretty good understanding of addiction now, and weakness is the wrong term. Weakness is a label applied to addicts by people who don’t understand addiction. I guarantee you, there’s just about nothing that’ll come between a true addict and their next fix, and the right term for that sure isn’t weakness. Anyway, the medical community over the last half century plus disagrees with you, and so do I.

I was speaking about your run of the mill, Budweiser drinking drunk. Not a true alcoholic.

I guess I misunderstood your use of the words “drunks” and “addicts.”

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Originally posted by pedropcola:
Wow. This thread took an odd and disturbing tone.

I figured since people were talking about alcoholism and hinting that people wanting a drink on a plane qualified, I’d just go ahead and go there.

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Originally posted by pedropcola:
I’m biased. It’s a huge money maker for airlines. I hate bailouts and unemployment so let them sell the stuff.

There are plenty of rules that when applied correctly keep issues to a dull roar.

Masks cause more issues now than alcohol ever have.

To be clear, I agree. Someone wants a drink on a plane because it makes it more enjoyable for them or helps tamp down on anxiety, I have no issue with that and it’s none of my business anyway. A pro drunk is going to get hammered before the flight anyways. A lightweight who doesn’t normally get drunk who gets obnoxious on three little shooters of Kahlua, I guess I don’t care about that either unless they get combative. A pro is generally going to want to fly under the radar and I’ve never actually seen a lightweight cause a problem. Unless it directly affects me, it’s none of my concern. Life’s too short for me to be minding other people’s business.

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Originally posted by P220 Smudge:
I guess I misunderstood your use of the words “drunks” and “addicts.”

I can see that.

Typing a quick response while distracted. I guess I should have either made a more well thought out post of just remained a spectator.

It seems to me that the folks having a hard time with a business choosing what they want to sell or not then in the same breath accusing them of taking away "muh liberties" seems either ironic or hypocritical. Worst case scenario they'd be able to have a cocktail at the bar before they board and then immediately after they land another would be available.

If I can retract my previous I'd like to replace it with those who cannot refrain for a couple hours may want to look into that before it becomes a much larger problem.