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Looks like Illinois will be seeing an AWB and magazine ban real soon. Video says probably some time in January and too take effect immediately. Roll Eyes

I looked through the bill Il HB5855 (link below) for more details and from what I could see Illinois resident will be required to register a banned firearm they already own between 180 to 300 days after the law goes into effect for a $25 fee and there is NO grandfather clause for magazines over 10 rounds. Hopefully an injunction will be filed against it as soon as it is passed.

https://ilga.gov/legislation/f...0&SpecSess=&Session= -- Full Text of HB5855, go to page 52 for new AWB details.

These are the same geniuses that came up with the no cash bail to take effect Jan 1 including for crimes such as aggravated assault, kidnapping, armed robbery, aggravated DUI, and second degree murder.

https://nypost.com/2022/09/17/...tate-into-the-purge/



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I’m sure RayRay and the gang will be in full compliance over in Englewood and Garfield Park…




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This is going to affect me. I live in IA but shoot at a nice club across the river in (cue ominous music) IL.

I'll read the bill later, but I do not expect to see an exemption for my ARs.

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You gotta be kidding me


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Out of all of my "toys", 5 of them ARENT on that list.

I wonder how the CPD is going to react when we carry 10 round magazines.


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What the law considers an "assault rifle" beyond what is specifically named.

Interestingly my Colt MT6700 HBAR is excluded. apparently.

(S) Colt AR-15, CAR-15, and all imitations except Colt
AR-15 Sporter H-BAR rifle.


Below is just part of the information ================================

21 (3) "Assault weapon" means:
22 (A) An assault shotgun or rifle.
23 (B) An assault pistol.
24 (C) A semiautomatic, centerfire rifle that can accept
25 a detachable magazine and has at least one of the
26 following:
1 (i) A folding or telescoping stock.
2 (ii) Any grip of the weapon, including a pistol
3 grip, a thumbhole stock, or any other stock, the use of
4 which would allow an individual to grip the weapon,
5 resulting in any finger on the trigger hand in
6 addition to the trigger finger being directly below
7 any portion of the action of the weapon when firing.
8 (iii) A forward pistol grip.
9 (iv) A flash suppressor.
10 (v) A grenade launcher or flare launcher.
11 (D) A semiautomatic, centerfire rifle that has an
12 overall length of less than 30 inches.

13 (E) A semiautomatic pistol that can accept a
14 detachable magazine and has at least one of the following:
15 (i) An ability to accept a detachable ammunition
16 magazine that attaches at some location outside of the
17 pistol grip.
18 (ii) A threaded barrel capable of accepting a
19 flash suppressor, forward pistol grip or silencer.
20 (iii) A shroud that is attached to, or partially
21 or completely encircles, the barrel and that permits
22 the shooter to fire the firearm without being burned,
23 except a slide that encloses the barrel.
24 (iv) A second hand grip.

15 "Assault weapon" does not include:
16 (A) any firearm that:
17 (i) is manually operated by bolt, pump, lever, or
18 slide action;
19 (ii) is an unserviceable firearm or has been made
20 permanently inoperable;
21 (iii) is an antique firearm;
22 (iv) uses rimfire ammunition or cartridges; or


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Todd is both competent and professional as an Illinois pro-gun lobbyist.


1st Video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Blg09OmASSg



Part 2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mnCahR8lsE



UPDATE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92vUQAMcQMM


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Well word is the bill has passed the House and the Senate has it and they may do some minor changes. Could pass and be signed by the governor within days. Options for banned magazines are to turn into police, sell out of state, or permanently reduce magazine capacity to no more than 12. Short period to do that though, 90 days I believe before becoming a felon. It is now Illinois Senate Bill 2226,


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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fJCnWhjBdo

I've always enjoyed Colion Noir's point of view. He's wicked smart and has a ton of common sense. Pretty much batting 1000 on this topic.


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That list is pretty similar to the one I have to deal with in MD.
 
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Well it passed the Illinois State senate yesterday and the house will vote on it today so it may very well be law mid week. Court challenges will be filed immediately.

Reports are of banning most semi auto rifle and "assault style" pistols that accept detachable magazines and
"assault shotguns". Grandfather clause that requires registering however with ISP including serial numbers. Interesting however news reports (AP) are saying gun stores can either send existing stock back to manufacturer or sell their inventory.

Magazine bans of over 10 for rifle and 15 for pistol. Supposedly grandfather clause for those but strict limits where they can be used including not in any public place, so not for carry.

Made red flag law much worse than they already are.

Mentions of "universal background checks" .

The Highland Park shooting already had bans in effect including local "assault weapon ban" and the event was a "gun free safe zone" but none of that stopped the murderer yet this new crap is supposed to. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



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From an ISRA email:

"Illinois State Rifle Association, Firearms Policy Coalition, Inc., Second Amendment Foundation, and Lawful Gun Owners
File Complaint for Declaratory and Injunctive Relief



January 17, 2023, Chatsworth, IL—Lawful gun owners from around the State of Illinois, along with the Illinois State Rifle Association (ISRA), the Firearms Policy Coalition, Inc., and the Second Amendment Foundation, have filed a federal lawsuit in the United States District Court for the Southern District of Illinois against Illinois Attorney General Kwame Raoul, the Director of the Illinois State Police Brendan Reilly, and numerous Illinois States Attorneys challenging Illinois’ new law.



On January 10, 2023, Illinois Governor JB Pritzker signed legislation that enacted an extensive ban on firearms and high-capacity magazines in the state. Plaintiffs say the new law infringes on the rights of law-abiding citizens to keep and bear commonly possessed firearms and ammunition magazines for the defense of self and family and other lawful purposes.



“Governor Pritzker and the legislators who voted for this law did this for self-serving political purposes and are not upholding the United States Constitution,” said Richard Pearson, Executive Director of the ISRA. “The 2nd Amendment is fundamentally about self-defense, and the 14th Amendment is about not having our rights infringed. This new law makes criminals out of law-abiding citizens.



“The real problem is that there are existing gun laws that do not work because they are not enforced,” Pearson added. “We would all be much safer if the police had the resources they need, and there were stronger consequences for the non-law-abiding citizens.”

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​​​​​​​A resident of St. Clair County and two Illinois gun stores join the three non-profit organizations seeking declaratory and injunctive relief.



The ISRA is represented by the Law Firm of David G. Sigale, P.C. of Wheaton, IL

The entire lawsuit can be viewed here: https://www.dropbox.com/s/t4gn...ve%20Relief.pdf?dl=0


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TRO granted, but apparently only for the plaintiffs specifically named in the lawsuit: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news...4e16a84c2ad51bb6b81c
 
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