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New Mexico is trying a similar ban.
If it get passed the state wants us to register any firearm that is gas operated, but if a "bolt in magazine" is installed then you won't have to register it.
Plus a few other unconstitutional laws.

Senator Heinrich (D) from N.M. is a co-signer of a similar bill he is pushing (the safe act) at the federal level.

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New Mexico is trying a similar ban.
If it get passed the state wants us to register any firearm that is gas operated, but if a "bolt in magazine" is installed then you won't have to register it.
Plus a few other unconstitutional laws.

Senator Heinrich (D) from N.M. is a co-signer of a similar bill he is pushing (the safe act) at the federal level.

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A "bolt in magazine" , how generous of them. The problem with these gun grabbing marxists is they will never stop and change their minds on what they "allowed" you to have in the past. Hopefully we will get some good news from SCOTUS in 2024 or 2025 on AWB, magazine bans, and all this other crap they are trying but I am not as confident about that as I was a year ago. Still we must financially support out favorite Second Amendment organizations as the battle continues.
 
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Not much news lately. Todd V did a video recently and he was saying at this point he is hoping we see some sort of relief by summer of 2025 via a SCOTUS decision on an AWB case that could come from one of the many states that have pending AWB legislation in the courts.
 
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I think the Dems are deliberately overloading SCOTUS in hopes that most of their shit gets ignored and forgotten.

All DJT's cases will, most likely, end up there, and of course they will be more critical than we are here in Illinois.

I haven't heard of Todd V so don't know what he's saying, and the Washington Gun Law guy, I'm a couple weeks behind watching his vids.


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Supreme Court refuses to grant cert to any of the Illinois AWB cases so in short we are screwed here in Illinois and other gun ban states in the foreseeable future. They referred some via GVR back to the lower courts where they will stall for years as usual. Wish I had better news. Video below explains in detail.

 
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The Court has expressed displeasure with hearing injunctions rather than cases. That's why I'm hopeful for the Ninth Circuit since the lower court actually did a trial on the AWB and the magazine issue.


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This might change everything as far as SCOTUS taking up an AWB case sooner than later.

https://www.thetruthaboutguns....o-the-supreme-court/

SAF Vows to Take Maryland’s Semi-Auto Ban to the Supreme Court
By TTAG Contributor -August 7, 2024

The Second Amendment Foundation (SAF) has announced they will seek Supreme Court review in Bianchi v. Wilkinson, SAF’s challenge to Maryland’s assault weapons ban, after the Fourth Circuit Court of Appeals upheld the law.


“Today’s decision from the 4th Circuit is unsurprising given their prior decision in Kolbe,” said SAF Executive Director Adam Kraut. “We believe, much like in Kolbe, the court’s analysis is flawed and that the challenged law is unconstitutional. We will be filing a petition for certiorari at the Supreme Court, as this case presents an excellent vehicle for the Court to settle this debate once and for all.” In the 65-page opinion, judges for the majority wrote: “The assault weapons at issue fall outside the ambit of protection offered by the Second Amendment because, in essence, they are military-style weapons designed for sustained combat operations that are ill-suited and disproportionate to the need for self-defense.” Chief Judge Diaz drafted a concurring opinion, with five other judges joining. Judge Richardson drafted a dissenting opinion, with four other judges joining stating: “The Second Amendment is not a second-class right subject to the whimsical discretion of federal judges. Its mandate is absolute and, applied here, unequivocal…In holding otherwise, the majority grants states historically unprecedented leeway to trammel the constitutional liberties of their citizens.” Joining SAF in the case are the Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms, Field Traders, LLC., the Firearms Policy Coalition, and three private citizens, David Snope, Micah Schaefer and Dominic Bianchi, for whom the case is named. “The court relied heavily on the distinction between ‘military style’ arms and those appropriate for self-defense use,” said SAF founder and Executive Vice President Alan M. Gottlieb. “This distinction runs completely contrary to the mandates of Heller and Bruen, and now sets the stage for another petition for SCOTUS review of the case.”
 
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This video by Four Boxes Diner is pretty shocking. He reveals that the Maryland AWB case actually had a favorable 2-1 draft opinion ruling in Decemner 2022 against the Maryland AWB BUT was never published and instead buried by court corruption instigated by the single dissenting judge who refused to publish the dissent. If that decision had seen the light of day it very well may have had an impact on the ruling of other AWB cases including Illinois.

 
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Just an update:

Tood V has recent videos out about what is going on with Ilinois AWB and Maryland AWB that could also affect us here in Illinois and probably the best chance at getting heard by SCOTUS, maybe even this 2024/2025 term, since that is a settled case now.



 
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The Illinois AWB has been overturned but what next? The video by Mark Smith details well.

https://www.thetruthaboutguns....wn-by-federal-judge/

"U.S. Federal Court Judge Stephen McGlynn struck down Illinois’ so-called “Protect Illinois Communities Act” gun and magazine ban Friday afternoon"

Key points.
The ruling does no take effect for thirty days. Judge's opinion was 160 pages defending the Second Amendment.
Illinois will appeal to the 7th Circuit Court where last time they over ruled the same judge's injunction of the AWB ban..
The 3 judge panel that heard it last time does not exist anymore due to one of the judges retiring so we might have a more favorable outcome with that.
Possibly SCOTUS will take up the Maryland AWB this term but we won't know for sure probably until some time in January.

 
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Federal District Court Judge Stephen P. McGlynn...Appointed by President Donald J. Trump! Just Sayin' Wink


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Federal District Court Judge Stephen P. McGlynn...Appointed by President Donald J. Trump! Just Sayin' Wink


Yep, and now there will be a whole lot more in the next couple years. Smile
 
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I just got an email from the ISRA and not surprised. Still hoping we will hear soon good news about SCOTUS taking up the Maryland AWB case. We should know sometime in January whether the will or won't.



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News from Illinois State Rifle association 12/05/24

Unconstitutional Gun Ban to Continue for Now

7th Circuit Extends Stay

Moments ago, the 7th Circuit Court of Appeals issued an order extending the stay of Judge McGlynn's decision finding the Illinois Gun Ban to be unconstitutional. The stay remains in place until the 7th Circuit can hear the case, which means that the unconstitutional gun ban continues to remain in effect.

While we are glad that Federal District Court Judge Stephen McGlynn’s stay would have expired on Sunday, December 8th, we are disappointed – but not surprised – that the Seventh Circuit Court of Appeals has extended that stay. Back in November, we were victorious when Judge McGlynn found the provisions of the Illinois ban on commonly owned firearms and accessories known as “PICA” to be unconstitutional. The State appealed immediately to the Seventh Circuit, so we also know that this battle is far from over.


When this unconstitutional bill was signed by Gov. Pritzker in January 2023, we promised to see the State of Illinois in Court – and we’ve held firm on that promise – and we won’t back down until our 2nd Amendment rights are restored in Illinois.

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Does anyone really fall for the whole “BREAKING NEWS” clickbait nonsense?

That’s a rhetorical question of course.




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Does anyone really fall for the whole “BREAKING NEWS” clickbait nonsense?

I imagine some people do because they keep doing that.

I watch a lot of YouTube videos and admit that I was taken in by things like “breaking” and “major ruling” for a time in the beginning. But now those sorts of headlines are more likely to keep me from even opening a video than to give it clicks. Just like here on the forum if the title gives me a good idea of what it’s about even if it’s not earth-shattering, I might look, but if it’s necessary to attract my attention by misleading me or even being meaningless vague, fool me once … and all that.




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