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Our military take these sorts of actions all the time, just on lower profile people. The legal concept is the same.
The leftists just took a few days to recover from their shock and awe and are going back to their anything Trump does is bad mode.
Now Queen Nancy is trying to somehow use this to add to failed impeachment list.
Note how quiet things have been from North Korea lately.
 
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Note how quiet things have been from North Korea lately.

That's probably meaningless. The crazy little kid with the bad haircut is as erratic as they come.




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Note how quiet things have been from North Korea lately.

That's probably meaningless. The crazy little kid with the bad haircut is as erratic as they come.

FWIW, the timing looks pretty suggestive to me. The whole "Christmas surprise" thing did fizzle out before Trump pulled the trigger on Soleimani, but Pyongyang's been particularly silent of late.
 
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Inside the plot by Iran’s Soleimani to attack U.S. forces in Iraq
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(Reuters) - In mid-October, Iranian Major-General Qassem Soleimani met with his Iraqi Shi’ite militia allies at a villa on the banks of the Tigris River, looking across at the U.S. embassy complex in Baghdad.

The Revolutionary Guards commander instructed his top ally in Iraq, Abu Mahdi al-Muhandis, and other powerful militia leaders to step up attacks on U.S. targets in the country using sophisticated new weapons provided by Iran, two militia commanders and two security sources briefed on the gathering told Reuters.

The strategy session, which has not been previously reported, came as mass protests against Iran’s growing influence in Iraq were gaining momentum, putting the Islamic Republic in an unwelcome spotlight. Soleimani’s plans to attack U.S. forces aimed to provoke a military response that would redirect that rising anger toward the United States, according to the sources briefed on the gathering, Iraqi Shi’ite politicians and government officials close to Iraqi Prime Minister Adel Abdul Mahdi.

Soleimani’s efforts ended up provoking the U.S. attack on Friday that killed him and Muhandis, marking a major escalation of tensions between the United States and Iran. The two men died in air strikes on their convoy at a Baghdad airport as they headed to the capital, dealing a major blow to the Islamic Republic and the Iraqi paramilitary groups it supports.

Interviews with the Iraqi security sources and Shi’ite militia commanders offer a rare glimpse of how Soleimani operated in Iraq, which he once told a Reuters reporter he knew like the back of his hand.

Two weeks before the October meeting, Soleimani ordered Iranian Revolutionary Guards to move more sophisticated weapons - such as Katyusha rockets and shoulder-fired missiles that could bring down helicopters - to Iraq through two border crossings, the militia commanders and Iraqi security sources told Reuters.

At the Baghdad villa, Soleimani told the assembled commanders to form a new militia group of low-profile paramilitaries - unknown to the United States - who could carry out rocket attacks on Americans housed at Iraqi military bases. He ordered Kataib Hezbollah - a force founded by Muhandis and trained in Iran - to direct the new plan, said the militia sources briefed on the meetings.

Soleimani told them such a group “would be difficult to detect by the Americans,” one of the militia sources told Reuters.

Before the attacks, the U.S. intelligence community had reason to believe that Soleimani was involved in “late stage” planning to strike Americans in multiple countries, including Iraq, Syria and Lebanon, U.S. officials told Reuters Friday on condition of anonymity. One senior U.S. official said Soleimani had supplied advanced weaponry to Kataib Hezbollah.

White House national security adviser Robert O’Brien told reporters on Friday that Soleimani had just come from Damascus, “where he was planning attacks on American soldiers, airmen, Marines, sailors and against our diplomats.”

An official at the headquarters of Iran’s Revolutionary Guards declined to comment. A spokesperson for the Iranian foreign ministry was not available for comment.

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The United States has grown increasingly concerned about Iran’s influence over the ruling elite in Iraq, which has been beset for months by protesters who accuse the government of enriching itself and serving the interests of foreign powers, especially Iran, as Iraqis languish in poverty without jobs or basic services.

Soleimani, leader of the Revolutionary Guards’ Quds Force, was instrumental in expanding Iran’s military influence in the Middle East as the operative who handles clandestine operations outside Iran. The 62-year-old general was regarded as the second-most powerful figure in Iran after Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei.

Muhandis, a former Iraqi lawmaker, oversaw Iraq’s Popular Mobilization Forces (PMF), an umbrella grouping of paramilitary forces mostly consisting of Iran-backed Shi’ite militias that was formally integrated into Iraq’s armed forces.

Muhandis, like Soleimani, had long been on the radar of the United States, which had declared Muhandis a terrorist. In 2007, a Kuwaiti court sentenced him to death in absentia for his involvement in the 1983 U.S. and French embassy bombings in Kuwait.

Soleimani picked Kataib Hezbollah to lead the attacks on U.S. forces in the region because it had the capability to use drones to scout targets for Katyusha rocket attacks, one of the militia commanders told Reuters. Among the weapons that Soleimani’s forces supplied to its Iraqi militia allies last fall was a drone Iran had developed that could elude radar systems, the militia commanders said.

Kataib Hezbollah used the drones to gather aerial footage of locations where U.S. troops were deployed, according to two Iraqi security officials who monitor the movements of militias.

On December 11, a senior U.S. military official said attacks by Iranian-backed groups on bases hosting U.S. forces in Iraq were increasing and becoming more sophisticated, pushing all sides closer to an uncontrollable escalation.

His warning came two days after four Katyusha rockets struck a base near Baghdad international airport, wounding five members of Iraq’s elite Counter-Terrorism Service. No group claimed responsibility for the attack but a U.S. military official said intelligence and forensic analyses of the rockets and launchers pointed to Iranian-backed Shi’ite Muslim militia groups, notably Kataib Hezbollah and Asaib Ahl al-Haq.

On Dec. 27 more than 30 rockets were fired at an Iraqi military base near the northern Iraq city of Kirkuk. The attack killed a U.S. civilian contractor and wounded four American and two Iraq servicemen.

Washington accused Kataib Hezbollah of carrying out the attack, an allegation it denied. The United States then launched air strikes two days later against the militia, killing at least 25 militia fighters and wounding 55.

The attacks sparked two days of violent protests by supporters of Iranian-backed Iraqi paramilitary groups who stormed the U.S. Embassy’s perimeter and hurled rocks, prompting Washington to dispatch extra troops to the region and threaten reprisals against Tehran.

On Thursday – the day before the attack that killed Soleimani - U.S. Defense Secretary Mark Esper warned that the United States might have to take preemptive action to protect American lives from expected attacks by Iran-backed militias.

“The game has changed,” he said.

Writing by Michael Georgy; Editing by Brian Thevenot



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Originally posted by ArtieS:Soleimani operated in Iraq, which he once told a Reuters reporter he knew like the back of his hand.


Is that the smoking hand we saw lying on the grass - the one with that spiffy-looking ring on it?
 
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Yep. But that hand was Trumped.




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Ironically, Soleimani and crowd seem almost less an immediate threat (here at home) to American Lives, Liberties, and Pursuits of Happiness than Virginia Democrats.


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Nancy Pelosi to Introduce Resolution Implying Pre-emptive Surrender to Iran

https://www.breitbart.com/nati...06&utm_content=Final

Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) wrote a letter to her Democrat colleagues in the House on Sunday to reveal a new “War Powers Resolution” that amounts to a pre-emptive surrender to Iran in ongoing hostilities.

Pelosi’s letter begins with the declaration that President Donald Trump’s airstrike last week targeting Iranian General Qasem Suleimani, leader of the terrorist Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps (IGRC) Quds Force, responsible for the murders of hundreds of Americans and for recent attacks on the U.S. embassy in Baghdad, was “provocative and disproportionate,” terms suggesting the attack was illegal under international law and could constitute a war crime.

Harvard Law School professor emeritus (and Democrat) Alan Dershowitz argued in Monday’s Wall Street Journal that the strike was not only lawful, but an “easy call”: “The president has the constitutional authority to take military actions, short of declaring war, that he and his advisers deem necessary to protect American citizens. This authority is extremely broad, especially when the actions must, by their nature, be kept secret from the intended target.”

Nonetheless, Pelosi’s letter indicates that the House will declare the president’s action illegal under international law.

The letter further claims that Trump’s action “endangered our servicemembers, diplomats and others by risking a serious escalation of tensions with Iran” — placing the responsibility for violence not on Iran, which recently attacked a U.S. Navy drone; a Saudi oil field; and, via proxies, Americans soldiers and civilians in Iraq; but on the United States, which had restrained itself until the recent assault by an Iranian-backed militia on the embassy.

The letter goes on to describe a new resolution that would “limit the President’s military actions regarding Iran,” essentially signaling a surrender in the potential conflict before the Iranian regime itself had managed to respond.

Pelosi adds that the resolution “reasserts Congress’s long-established oversight responsibilities by mandating that if no further Congressional action is taken, the Administration’s military hostilities with regard to Iran cease within 30 days.” Under current law, the War Powers Act of 1973 limits the time that a president can lead a military effort, without formal authorization, to 60 days following a required presidential report to Congress when hostilities begin.

The new resolution, which Pelosi says mirrors a similar Senate bill by Sen. Tim Kaine (D-VA), would amount to an effective surrender by signaling that the president had no congressional support for striking back against Iran, and imposing a new deadline for any military action that would give Iran greater freedom of action. Paradoxically, the resolution could force the president to choose more drastic measures of conducting a war effort before the deadline.

By declaring the attack “provocative and disproportionate,” the resolution also invites international prosecution of the president, as well as members of the administration and the military itself, who carry out his orders. The U.S. does not recognize the authority of the International Criminal Court (ICC) to prosecute Americans for war crimes, but the ICC takes a different view, and a future Democratic administration might well side with the ICC instead.

Pelosi’s letter indicates that the new “War Powers Resolution” will be introduced and voted on this week. She has not yet indicated when she will transfer the articles of impeachment passed by the House on Dec. 18 to the Senate, which she claims is a necessary prerequisite to the Senate holding a trial on the president’s removal from office.


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I've always thought Pelosi is nuts, but never this nuts...… Did her daughter get fired from her Ukraine or Iranian job or whatever????
 
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Nonetheless, Pelosi’s letter indicates that the House will declare the president’s action illegal under international law.


Treasonous bitch.


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Nonetheless, Pelosi’s letter indicates that the House will declare the president’s action illegal under international law.


Treasonous bitch.
Wouldn't such a resolution have to be approved by the Senate, also? I seriously doubt it would get any traction there.

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Nonetheless, Pelosi’s letter indicates that the House will declare the president’s action illegal under international law.


Treasonous bitch.
Wouldn't such a resolution have to be approved by the Senate, also? I seriously doubt it would get any traction there.

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It's just the point that she would write that. I agree with Rhinowso……..but you know what the house is doing right now shows me????...….SHEER DESPERATION on the Democrats part.
 
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Nonetheless, Pelosi’s letter indicates that the House will declare the president’s action illegal under international law.


Treasonous bitch.
Wouldn't such a resolution have to be approved by the Senate, also? I seriously doubt it would get any traction there.

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Anybody with a brain, will be able to pick this 'letter' apart, starting with the fact that Mrs Pelosi only leads one half of the legislative branch. This move is as useless as the Iraqi Parliment's 'vote' to expel US troops, a giant nothing burger since a the Sunnis & Kurds boycotted the vote and, the parliament itself is in caretaker status since the Prime Minister resigned back in November. All this symbology... Roll Eyes
 
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Nonetheless, Pelosi’s letter indicates that the House will declare the president’s action illegal under international law.


Treasonous bitch.
Wouldn't such a resolution have to be approved by the Senate, also? I seriously doubt it would get any traction there.

flashguy


We're all pretty intelligent here, flash. I'm sure we all know this resolution has zero chance of going anywhere. It's her gall though. Such a sentiment, especially from a representative in Congress and the Speaker of the House no less, should make every American gag.


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Aren't you a special little one Nancy, bless your heart.



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Nonetheless, Pelosi’s letter indicates that the House will declare the president’s action illegal under international law.


Treasonous bitch.


I'd say to Nancy- knock yourself out.

The more you and your ilk align yourselves with Islamic terrorism, be my guest. Please keep it up.



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Yep. But that hand was Trumped.


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Nancy Pelosi and company are encouraging iran which is cruel since there's Nothing she can do to stop President Trump from doing what he wants.


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Pelosi and Schumer brought on Iran's attack on US GIs

"Speaker Pelosi’s impeachment escapade has cast a catastrophic cloud of uncertainty over the office of the President of the United States and severely compromised the President’s standing before foreign leaders. This degradation of the Commander in Chief's authority represents a “clear and present danger” to the country...
http://www.israelnationalnews....s/Article.aspx/24984


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