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How well did that other Island state turn out for us? _________________________ "Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it." Mark Twain | |||
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| Oh stewardess, I speak jive.  |
More US Beaches, more Taxes? We already have Miami. It's barely more American.  Take it, tax it, clean it up, and run it like a big resort. Our own Cancun, Hawaii SouthEast. Or cut it loose. Anything else is foolish and I'm not even sure about option one. ^ | |||
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| Conservative Behind Enemy Lines  |
Yes you are, 46&2. There's a commie/liberal/cancer upon our land, and it has already metastasized in PR. Clearly, cut 'em loose. I found what you said riveting. | |||
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Two more liberal democrat senators? No thanks. | |||
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The Unmanned Writer |
That should be up to the people (voters) of the US. And a vote by PR which results in someone "demanding" wed let them be a state? Nope. Life moves pretty fast. If you don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it. "If dogs don't go to Heaven, I want to go where they go" Will Rogers The definition of the words we used, carry a meaning of their own... | |||
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Nope. Still a beautiful place with wonderful, warm people, but still frustrating in some ways. . | |||
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Don't Panic |
Just so you know, they can come here at will already. There are no illegal PRs.  I was down there in the late '70s and wound up liking the people, the geography and the climate. They had some very odd economic incentive laws that resulted in companies putting some at-the-time high tech component plants and pharmaceutical pill operations down there. And they had squatters and shanty towns, folks living under blown-over billboards, etc. It was a weird mix of Hawaii, Silicon Valley and Spanish Harlem. For military strategy perspective, if for no other reason, I would rather have them as a state than independent, although not at the cost of imbalancing the Senate. Perhaps we let them in at the same time CA spins the sane bits out into a free state? | |||
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Tinker Sailor Soldier Pie |
But it is up to us, isn't? Or at least our representatives. If it comes to that, call your congressman and tell him or her that PR ain't allowed into our house until they shower and put on fresh new clothes. Otherwise, take a hike. ~Alan Acta Non Verba NRA Life Member (Patron) God, Family, Guns, Country Men will fight and die to protect women... because women protect everything else. ~Andrew Klavan "Once there was only dark. If you ask me, light is winning." ~Rust Cohle | |||
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NO!! Cut them loose. | |||
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| Leave the gun. Take the cannoli. |
Some of you guys forgot your social studies classes back in school. We can't tell PR to screw. We own it. We've owned it for a long time. PR residents are US citizens. US taxpayers are already covering SS, Medicare, Medicaid, etc for PR. Over 90% of the vote was for statehood but only 25% voted. 25% turnout is not a referendum. Congress ultimately makes the final decision. Congress fucked PR when they ended Section 936. Congress fucked PR when they closed the base. Wall St fucked PR when they continued to lend money they knew could never get repaid. Even though PR can't file Congress will be forced to act because there is too much money involved. The PR debt problem effects people who have no idea their retirement accounts have exposure to PR bonds. | |||
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| Peace through superior firepower  |
Not interested, not in the least. Just go away. ____________________________________________________ "I am your retribution." - Donald Trump, speech at CPAC, March 4, 2023 | |||
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Sigforum K9 handler |
Puerto Rico is a gold digging woman, looking for a sugar daddy...... | |||
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semi-reformed sailor |
PR is just another third world shithole.... Would you want any of them as another state? nope. But the problem is that we ALREADY own PR... Best thing the US could do would to sign the deed to the island back over to them; and walk away. "Violence, naked force, has settled more issues in history than has any other factor.” Robert A. Heinlein “You may beat me, but you will never win.” sigmonkey-2020 “A single round of buckshot to the torso almost always results in an immediate change of behavior.” Chris Baker | |||
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Rosie Roads is a textbook example of how we need to handle the rest of the place. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ "And it's time that particularly, some of our corporations learned, that when you get in bed with government, you're going to get more than a good night's sleep." - Ronald Reagan | |||
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| Edge seeking Sharp blade! |
This reminds me of Borat trying to marry Pam Anderson. The difference is he actually was in lust with her. | |||
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אַרְיֵה |
When you reach my age you'll find that your memory is the second thing that you lose (I forgot what the first one was), but I seem to recall that our esteemed presidential candidate said something like "We have already visited fifty-seven states. I think we have one more to go." Do you think that the "one more to go" was Puerto Rico, maybe? הרחפת שלי מלאה בצלופחים | |||
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Oh, hell, no. *************************** Knowing more by accident than on purpose. | |||
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| On the wrong side of the Mobius strip  |
From the linked story...
That's a swell way to start a negotiation.  | |||
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| Big Stack |
Which is the point. I don't really know what the legal procedure would be for granting independence to what has been a territory full of US citizens. But if it was attempted, you can be sure that, before the door is closed, a lot of those citizens, who, as you correctly stated can freely move anywhere in the US, will bail out of the territory and into the US proper.
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Info Guru |
Easy answer: No. Hell to the No. Just what we need - another 2 permanent democrat senators to raise the bar needed to pass legislation or end cloture in the Senate. Hope the RINOs don't cave on this. “Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence.” - John Adams | |||
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