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| It's not you, it's me.  |
Not at all. Chicago can still be easily nuked by Subs in the ocean. | |||
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Ammoholic |
 Jesse Sic Semper Tyrannis | |||
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| I believe in the principle of Due Process  |
Is Chive a problem? I've never heard of it. Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me. When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown | |||
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| It's not you, it's me. |
It's a fun social media website...not usually accurate in their list type posts, more infotainment. It's definitly NOT a problem for quality T&A pics.  JALLEN, go check out some boobies and bootays. 2017 Chive booty hall of fame http://thechive.com/2017/04/20...l-of-fame-50-photos/ | |||
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Coin Sniper |
How are you going to get a Boomer through the various locks required to enter the great lakes, without it being seen? Pronoun: His Royal Highness and benevolent Majesty of all he surveys 343 - Never Forget Its better to be Pavlov's dog than Schrodinger's cat There are three types of mistakes; Those you learn from, those you suffer from, and those you don't survive. | |||
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Not really from Vienna |
From the article: "Other then food, she can produce her own oxygen and water supply for its crew." Good Lord, how do these imbeciles get through high school English courses? | |||
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| Savor the limelight |
The locks aren't a factor. The canals leading to them are dredged to a minimum depth of 27' and the sub draws 38' and is over 70' tall from the keel up. The St. Clair river also has a minimum depth of 27'. Maybe if you had a flock of African Sparrows you could fly an Ohio class sub into the Great Lakes. The whole "article" is terrible. Many the captions don't match the pictures and the information is outdated and some times completely false. It seems to be click bait. | |||
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Official Space Nerd |
IF we were to station subs in the Great Lakes, we really wouldn't care whether the Ruskies would know about it. . . Once there, they would be practically invulnerable. I've always wondered why we didn't station them there. We wouldn't even need all the complex quieting technology that 'open ocean' subs require. Fear God and Dread Nought Admiral of the Fleet Sir Jacky Fisher | |||
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| Savor the limelight |
One reason is they can't get in and out. They're too big. Another might be there are probably much cheaper easier to maintain land based ways to launch ICBMs from the middle of the country. Lastly, the range of the Trident and Trident II are reportedly 4,600 miles and 7,500 miles. Sure limits the targets that could be reached. | |||
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The Unmanned Writer |
Was listening to an article this morning where they were saying Russia, as led by Putin, developed a torpedo with a 6,000 mile range and able to carry enough explosives to take a carrier out of the fight. The scenario used was a Russian sub's ability to stand-off 5,000 miles from San Diego and release the weapon as a carrier gets underway. Oh and Wonder Putz was credited with emboldening Putin to develop the torp. Life moves pretty fast. If you don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it. "If dogs don't go to Heaven, I want to go where they go" Will Rogers The definition of the words we used, carry a meaning of their own... | |||
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During WWII, We built submarines in Manitowc, Wisconsin. Sailed them out the St. Lawrence to the Ocean. I'm sorry if I hurt you feelings when I called you stupid - I thought you already knew - Unknown ................................... When you have no future, you live in the past. " Sycamore Row" by John Grisham | |||
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| Big Stack |
7,500 miles easily puts Moscow in range of a Trident D5 (II) from Omaha (taking a random middle American city with AF importance as an example.) You could probably hit anywhere in Russia from there. But you could probably put some D5s on trucks (which they'd be able to launch from), and drive them around to secure locations for LOTS cheaper than building a sub to wrap around them.
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| Ammoholic |
Are there any underwater silos? Seems cheaper than nuclear sub. Jesse Sic Semper Tyrannis | |||
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| Where there's smoke, there's fire!! |
Can you imagine what it would cost to maintain that fleet? Holy sh*t. | |||
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If there really are subs in the great lakes (there aren't), where do they re-supply their food? And the lakes aren't that deep (relatively speaking). They could hold a sub, but not hide them very well. | |||
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7500 miles and we'll put it in your living room. They used to be the only nuclear platform that could launch from local command. ____________________________________________________ The butcher with the sharpest knife has the warmest heart. | |||
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I think the article is wrong. I was assigned to a Titan II Wing in '77 and the term "nuclear triad" was in place at least as early as that time. From what I've read, the Trident missile was first deployed in '79. | |||
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| Coin Sniper |
I was hoping you weren't insinuating that nuclear submarines were migratory. Pronoun: His Royal Highness and benevolent Majesty of all he surveys 343 - Never Forget Its better to be Pavlov's dog than Schrodinger's cat There are three types of mistakes; Those you learn from, those you suffer from, and those you don't survive. | |||
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| Lawyers, Guns and Money  |
No... just deliver them with delivery trucks, probably rental trucks.  "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." -- Justice Janice Rogers Brown "The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth." -rduckwor | |||
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Optimistic Cynic |
They call them "grinders." | |||
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